Retirement Withdrawal Options... Guidance Please

Hello Stoplight, I appreciate you sharing your experience, but I dont understand this part

"I'm withdrawing as the "full withdrawal" with a specified monthly amount."

Welcome, Dave95 !

I see you've entered the murky world of the "how much can I withdraw ?" question...believe me ; it's an art, not a science ! Everybody's situation is different :)

The short answer to your question is...figure out your yearly rate of return, and use the specified monthly withdrawal amount, adjusted annually. In fact, I have my TSP-73 in front of me right now ! That's the form used for changing your monthly distribution. As you noted, when you hit that RMD age, you'll need a new strategy to preserve your principal, regardless of the tax-deferred investment vehicle.

I assume you've already done all the basics, like estimate your expenses first, and the source(s) of income to meet those expenses (your pension, Wife's pension, Wife's 403(b) (?), Social Security, etc), and you're still a little short....thus, the need to tap your TSP now. In my case, the Wife was also a school Teacher.

My 2 pieces of advice ? First...if your Wife just retired, wait a while and see how your expenses shake out. For instance, I was surprised at how our gasoline use dropped, after neither of us were driving to work ! Also, it's nice not paying a Social Security tax anymore ! OTOH, the amount we're spending on her hobbies skyrocketed :nuts:

Second : Seriously consider rolling your TSP into an IRA, as Birch recommended. You can then have a LOT more flexibility on where your money is invested ; you can be as active or passive as you want ; and the best part...you can withdraw whatever amount you want, whenever you need it (like for 1 of those home maintenance bills !). Of course, you'll pay tax, and you'll still have to deal with an RMD down the road. Many on the Board will argue the pros and cons about that approach, and there are good reasons to go either way, so you have to look at it from your own perspective. Be careful, though, because with some TSP withdrawal decisions, there's no going back !

For me, we don't have Kids, or anyone else we want to make rich when we die, so "estate planning" wasn't a factor. :D We rolled the Wife's 403(b) into an IRA ; took the one-time "partial withdrawal" and rolled most of my TSP balance into an IRA ; and kept a small balance in my TSP, based on an estimate of what we'll need over the next 3 years, which I'm withdrawing as the "full withdrawal" with a specified monthly amount. That makes sense for us, because I avoid the tax penalty on the distribution because I'm not yet 59 1/2 (like I'd have on the IRA). For you both, that's not an issue, since you're 65...

Anyway...best of luck ! Read through some of the other threads, and ask questions ! LOTS of good discussions about homes, paying off mortgages, life insurance, etc etc, and plenty of people willing to share their knowledge and experience !


Stoplight...
 
It all depends on your need but it's best you expand your investment when withdrawing. You use money to make more money. Mor investments means more income.


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Here is a fresh article from the Wall Street Journal on the best approaches to required minimum distributions (RMDs).

The Best Way to Take RMDs From Your Retirement Accounts

New research suggests an equal-installment strategy is best. Although a lump-sum approach works at times, it’s risky.

Couldn't see the full article but I have a small inherited IRA with RMDs that at first I took it out at the end of the year when brokerage told me too, skipping it one year where it was allowed. Now I take it earlier in the year based on cash flow needs and taxes and available cash position. For TSP we made incremental deposits over many year so the equal installment strategy on withdrawals makes sense to me

I'm doing conversion to lessen the impact of RMDs for TSP and IRA account to reduce the overall impact of future RMDs before I get there. It is much easier to withdraw now looking at the original OP in 2013. I had to take Life Expectancy Tables to withdraw funds until 59.5. I continued to use the LE calculation as a guideline to determine in amount I want to withdraw as monthly payments but also take larger partial distributions as needed to stay within certain tax bracket.

Last year in looking at RMD calcuator https://www.calculator.net/rmd-calc...sedob=1952&returnrate=5&x=Calculate#calresult I realized that more attention needs to be paid to conversions/spending plan prior to RMDs kicking in. If you put your info, age, current balance & anticipated RoR you lose much control when you reach RMD age when it comes to taxes if you don't take any distributions prior to RMD age. This can impact the amount you pay for Medicare (IRMAA) and how much of your SS is taxed (up to 85%--Not sure how the recently passed legislation for elderly will apply but I believe there is a phase at higher income levels.)

It is hard to shift from saving to spending mindset; TSP is only one leg of that 3 legged stool they used as an example when implementing FERS. Even with conversions I see that it is going to be a challenge to get ahead with current earnings and managing taxes. QCDs are not available until 70.5, when you have the option to give money away to reduce your AGI. Charitable contributions can be used as itemized deductions to reduce taxes but your AGI or MAGI, which many things are based on, is much higher. Luckily I still have time to figure things out.

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