Retail Sales Outlook

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Wish I was in the G fund :(. Oh yeah, I am ;). No recession here...no inflation in the works and all is well.

Put the rosy color glasses on my lab rat.

Morpheus






Retail Sales

The Commerce Department's report tomorrow on retail sales will show a second monthly decline in automobile purchases. Vehicles sold in November at a 16.4 million annual rate, the slowest since June, after October's 17 million pace, industry figures show.

General Motors Corp., the world's largest automaker, is cutting production in the first quarter by 7.1 percent, while Ford Motor Co. will reduce North American output by 7.7 percent. Vehicle production at General Motors has declined 5.1 percent to 4.68 million vehicles through the first week of December from a year earlier, according to Automotive News, a trade publication. Ford's North American output fell 7.6 percent to 3.28 million.

Excluding automobiles, retail sales are forecast to increase 0.1 percent in November, less than the 0.9 percent rise a month earlier. Receipts at filling stations last month were probably lower, reflecting a drop in gasoline prices. A gallon cost $1.99 at the end of the month, compared with $2.08 at the start, according to figures from the Energy Department.

Clothing sales, which increased 3 percent in October, probably slowed last month, according to economists at Lehman Brothers.

Consumer Prices

Sales at chain stores open at least a year rose 1.7 percent in November from a year earlier, the second-smallest gain in 20 months, according to the International Council of Shopping Centers, a trade group based in New York. Almost half of 69 chains tracked by the council had declines.

Retailers are responding. J.C. Penney Co. offered discounts of as much as 50 percent on women's dresses a week ago to get shoppers to spend more. Federate Department Stores Inc. and Sears, Roebuck & Co. have also stepped up discounts.

That's keeping a lid on consumer prices. The Labor Department is forecast to report on Dec. 17 a 0.2 percent rise in the consumer price index in November after a 0.6 percent jump. Excluding energy and food, prices probably rose 0.2 percent for a second month.

Forecasts

The U.S. trade deficit widened in October to $53 billion from $51.6 billion a month earlier, a report from the Commerce Department is likely to show. The current account deficit, the broadest measure of trade because it includes investments, probably widened in the third quarter to $171 billion from $166.2 billion.

Housing starts are forecast to decline to 1.98 million at an annual rate in November from 2.027 million a month earlier. Home construction has averaged 1.95 million at an annual rate so far this year.


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MarketTimer wrote:
Wish I was in the G fund :(. Oh yeah, I am ;). No recession here...no inflation in the works and all is well.

Put the rosy color glasses on my lab rat.

Morpheus






Retail Sales

The Commerce Department's report tomorrow on retail sales will show a second monthly decline in automobile purchases. Vehicles sold in November at a 16.4 million annual rate, the slowest since June, after October's 17 million pace, industry figures show.

General Motors Corp., the world's largest automaker, is cutting production in the first quarter by 7.1 percent, while Ford Motor Co. will reduce North American output by 7.7 percent. Vehicle production at General Motors has declined 5.1 percent to 4.68 million vehicles through the first week of December from a year earlier, according to Automotive News, a trade publication. Ford's North American output fell 7.6 percent to 3.28 million.

Excluding automobiles, retail sales are forecast to increase 0.1 percent in November, less than the 0.9 percent rise a month earlier. Receipts at filling stations last month were probably lower, reflecting a drop in gasoline prices. A gallon cost $1.99 at the end of the month, compared with $2.08 at the start, according to figures from the Energy Department.

Clothing sales, which increased 3 percent in October, probably slowed last month, according to economists at Lehman Brothers.

Consumer Prices

Sales at chain stores open at least a year rose 1.7 percent in November from a year earlier, the second-smallest gain in 20 months, according to the International Council of Shopping Centers, a trade group based in New York. Almost half of 69 chains tracked by the council had declines.

Retailers are responding. J.C. Penney Co. offered discounts of as much as 50 percent on women's dresses a week ago to get shoppers to spend more. Federate Department Stores Inc. and Sears, Roebuck & Co. have also stepped up discounts.

That's keeping a lid on consumer prices. The Labor Department is forecast to report on Dec. 17 a 0.2 percent rise in the consumer price index in November after a 0.6 percent jump. Excluding energy and food, prices probably rose 0.2 percent for a second month.

Forecasts

The U.S. trade deficit widened in October to $53 billion from $51.6 billion a month earlier, a report from the Commerce Department is likely to show. The current account deficit, the broadest measure of trade because it includes investments, probably widened in the third quarter to $171 billion from $166.2 billion.

Housing starts are forecast to decline to 1.98 million at an annual rate in November from 2.027 million a month earlier. Home construction has averaged 1.95 million at an annual rate so far this year.


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Interesting that you never show where you copy your info from, you may want to find another source. ..................
 
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You can't play unless you keep chips on the table. C,S & I still in an upward long trend, even though I fund had a pull-back.
 
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That pullback darn near hit my first entry point of $14.63. :shock:

I should've smelled a rat when it shot past $15 per share, but as I've stated before, I'm just not that bright and need to learn the hard way. :^

I'm going to make amends for last week's stupid moves that ate away some of my nice gains in the last month... by doing nothing. :D
 
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No problem.

Hey Xmas or Holiday Day or whatever is the PC way to call it now...

.01 increase in retail sales

and .02 increase in business inventorys

11 days prior to Xmas is not a very bullish thing at least to me - I believe that was a reason for people to mark up the market for todays fun.

I went to Walmart at 1pm on Saturday and felt like a VIP...I was all by myself -two weeks prior to Xmas???

I believe Monday was a mark up day and hope people in G fund did not take the carrot and waited for the trade balance report today.

I hope I am wrong...but my instincts are normally pretty good.

:) Have a great day!

Bill



Rod wrote:
MarketTimer wrote:
Wish I was in the G fund :(.
I betcha do!:'

Sorry... couldn't resist.;)
 
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You were dead wrong on the retail sales report. You expected a decline (and/or your posted info did,a source for which wasn't included which equals... plagiarism?)and instead they posted gains. More importantly, the previous month's data was revised upward. Instead of admitting that you were totally wrong and accepting responsibility for your negative spin on here, you change the subject and start in on how a Wal-Mart you were allegedly at on Saturday was empty. *roll eyes*

Waste of bandwidth.
 
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MarketTimer wrote:
No problem.

Hey Xmas or Holiday Day or whatever is the PC way to call it now...

.01 increase in retail sales

and .02 increase in business inventorys

11 days prior to Xmas is not a very bullish thing at least to me - I believe that was a reason for people to mark up the market for todays fun.

I went to Walmart at 1pm on Saturday and felt like a VIP...I was all by myself -two weeks prior to Xmas???

I believe Monday was a mark up day and hope people in G fund did not take the carrot and waited for the trade balance report today.

I hope I am wrong...but my instincts are normally pretty good.

:) Have a great day!

Bill



You'll catch the gainsanother time, Bill.:^
 
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Mike wrote:
You were dead wrong on the retail sales report. You expected a decline (and/or your posted info did,a source for which wasn't included which equals... plagiarism?)and instead they posted gains. More importantly, the previous month's data was revised upward. Instead of admitting that you were totally wrong and accepting responsibility for your negative spin on here, you change the subject and start in on how a Wal-Mart you were allegedly at on Saturday was empty. *roll eyes*

Waste of bandwidth.
:^
 
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MarketTimer wrote:
I went to Walmart at 1pm on Saturday and felt like a VIP...I was all by myself -two weeks prior to Xmas???
Just curious, how many people vacation in Hawaii to shop at Walmart?

And what is a man of your "stature" doing at Walmart anyway? Looking to buy it?
 
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Excuse me gang...we are in the two biggest shoppings months of the year and we are up .01% and business inventories increased .02%??? Beating 0.0% was an interesting (mark up) reaction to me. Hopefully folks did not chase the carrot.

Risk/reward - do you really want to be in stocks in front of the trade balance report?

Good luck today. I will be buying at today's NAVs.

:)
 
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MarketTimer wrote:
Excuse me gang...we are in the two biggest shoppings months of the year and we are up .01% and business inventories increased .02%??? Beating 0.0% was an interesting (mark up) reaction to me. Hopefully folks did not chase the carrot.

Risk/reward - do you really want to be in stocks in front of the trade balance report?

Good luck today. I will be buying at today's NAVs.

:)
You say "hopefully folks did not chase the carrot" then you say "I will be buying at today's NAVs"................I don't get you.

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BTW, you didn't kill that lab rat for out thinking you did you?
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MarketTimer wrote:
Excuse me gang...we are in the two biggest shoppings months of the year and we are up .01% and business inventories increased .02%??? Beating 0.0% was an interesting (mark up) reaction to me. Hopefully folks did not chase the carrot.

Risk/reward - do you really want to be in stocks in front of the trade balance report?

Good luck today. I will be buying at today's NAVs.

:)
Part of the definition of bull market: Rampant speculation dominates the market and price advances are based on hopes and expectations rather than actual results. http://www.incrediblecharts.com/technical/dow_theory_trends.htm Link courtesy of Spaf.
 
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My Little Fury Suppository,

Today historically the weakest day of December. Risk/reward....you want to get out (say like last Thursday) and get back in on after the NAVs drop.

Lots of hammers today, trade balance, CU, BI and FOMC - the wording on the FOMC meeting can be very harmful.

Big deal is I missed the mark up day yesterday (a flat sales report is not too bullish to me - we came in at .01 and everyone thinks that is great?). The second most important month to retailers came in .01. The target was 0.0!!! Look at the calendar if the sales report is not good now...what is it going to look like moving forward. Hmm...what I am I missing??

We will see at the end of the day where we stand.

Bash me all you want but if the data like the trade report keeps rolling in you could be in for good pain and I will be in for good NAVs.

Hope no one is in the F fund today. Treasury bonds are being given away right now.


Morpheus.

mlk_man wrote:

MarketTimer wrote:
Excuse me gang...we are in the two biggest shoppings months of the year and we are up .01% and business inventories increased .02%??? Beating 0.0% was an interesting (mark up) reaction to me. Hopefully folks did not chase the carrot.

Risk/reward - do you really want to be in stocks in front of the trade balance report?

Good luck today. I will be buying at today's NAVs.

:)
You say "hopefully folks did not chase the carrot" then you say "I will be buying at today's NAVs"................I don't get you.

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Yeah, like March 2000? Things bad happy when the investors do not read and take action on the data not the hopes of not missing out on the IRA funding run.

Good luck V-man.



vectorman wrote:
MarketTimer wrote:
Excuse me gang...we are in the two biggest shoppings months of the year and we are up .01% and business inventories increased .02%??? Beating 0.0% was an interesting (mark up) reaction to me. Hopefully folks did not chase the carrot.

Risk/reward - do you really want to be in stocks in front of the trade balance report?

Good luck today. I will be buying at today's NAVs.

:)
Part of the definition of bull market: Rampant speculation dominates the market and price advances are based on hopes and expectations rather than actual results. http://www.incrediblecharts.com/technical/dow_theory_trends.htm Link courtesy of Spaf.
 
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MarketTimer wrote:
My Little Fury Suppository,

Today historically the weakest day of December. Risk/reward....you want to get out (say like last Thursday) and get back in on after the NAVs drop.

Lots of hammers today, trade balance, CU, BI and FOMC - the wording on the FOMC meeting can be very harmful.

Big deal is I missed the mark up day yesterday (a flat sales report is not too bullish to me - we came in at .01 and everyone thinks that is great?). The second most important month to retailers came in .01. The target was 0.0!!! Look at the calendar if the sales report is not good now...what is it going to look like moving forward. Hmm...what I am I missing??

We will see at the end of the day where we stand.

Bash me all you want but if the data like the trade report keeps rolling in you could be in for good pain and I will be in for good NAVs.



Morpheus.
Historically yesterday was just as bad as today, soooooooooo? Yes we will see, I bet you retreat to yourhole again...........:^

Kiss my "fury little suppostitory"
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Don't get too excited with that one!!!!!!!!!!!! :P
 
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Yes historically yesterday was a very strong day.

Write this down...the Monday before options expiration are very strong. Friday should be very strong also with options expiration and the QQQQ rebalance...this is why I recommend everyone get in the market today. The I fund will not like the trade balance report tomorrow which is why I advised to wait until tomorrow to fund some in I.

Next year I fund will be the best performing fund.

However the risk reward with the retail sales report could of lead to two down days in a row.

Nice little Icons.

Got any for your rodent species?

Bash all you want but at least I put myself out there and explain what I am doing and why. I am trying to help the board.

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MarketTimer wrote:
Yes historically yesterday was a very strong day.

Write this down...the Monday before options expiration are very strong. Friday should be very strong also with options expiration and the QQQQ rebalance...this is why I recommend everyone get in the market today. The I fund will not like the trade balance report tomorrow which is why I advised to wait until tomorrow to fund some in I.

Next year I fund will be the best performing fund.

However the risk reward with the retail sales report could of lead to two down days in a row.

Nice little Icons.

Got any for your rodent species?

Bash all you want but at least I put myself out there and explain what I am doing and why. I am trying to help the board.

:cool:
Keep helping, I'm sure some could use the reading practice. I'll just keep outperforming you.................:^
 
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MarketTimer wrote:
Yes historically yesterday was a very strong day.

Write this down...the Monday before options expiration are very strong. Friday should be very strong also with options expiration and the QQQQ rebalance...this is why I recommend everyone get in the market today. The I fund will not like the trade balance report tomorrow which is why I advised to wait until tomorrow to fund some in I.
Read my lips "you are mentally not right!!!!!!!!!" You say Monday before options expiration are very strong yet you get in today? Are you getting out Thurs. because Fri. is strong? You're conflicted brother............koo, koo, koo, koo...........
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