Republican plan to cut Federal Workers, Pay, Retirement

[tsptalk]

Here is food for thought based on that passage. Could it be dear Adolf was just an early version Teabagger? OR Could these guys be polite closet Nazis? Both of em have all the answers and have a narrowly focused field of who is to blame at a time when the chips are down. It's funny too how quiet they are about GE racking up that massive profit last year and not paying a dime in taxes but then that's just what they want.

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[RealMoneyIssues]

Here is food for thought based on that passage. Could it be dear Adolf was just an early version Teabagger? OR Could these guys be polite closet Nazis? Both of em have all the answers and have a narrowly focused field of who is to blame at a time when the chips are down. It's funny too how quiet they are about GE racking up that massive profit last year and not paying a dime in taxes but then that's just what they want.

And, considering you are putting a small pen-light on a very large subject, I will put your comments where they belong; at a left-wing activist rally.

There is plenty of blame to go around, right and left, which is why the Tea Party came into existence... there are a lot of people tired of the extremists on both sides and the fact that neither party can get things done without ignoring the constitution and holding their finger in the wind to see what is popular.

Quit worrying about what is popular, get back to constitutional basics and reduce the size of our government to one that isn't overly intrusive and doesn't cost us OUR COUNTRY.

Now, next time you want to call folks Nazis, consider your own thoughts and actions... and if you are comfortable with that, I am sorry for you and will keep you in my prayers...

BTW, this subject should either be kept to pay/TSP subject or be closed and moved to that other forum...

 

[driz]

"We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike.” -Adolf Hitler, May 2, 1933

Here is food for thought based on that passage. Could it be dear Adolf was just an early version Teabagger? OR Could these guys be polite closet Nazis? Both of em have all the answers and have a narrowly focused field of who is to blame at a time when the chips are down. It's funny too how quiet they are about GE racking up that massive profit last year and not paying a dime in taxes but then that's just what they want.

 

[Gumby]

I thought government was supposed to run like a business.

Key word is "supposed"

Any legitimate business run like our government would be insolvent.

 

[clester]

This goes to show ya even a nasty man like him can sometimes be right!

PSU's want to bargin for taxpayers money, and what was that FDR said about them?

Oh damn I forgot, its not our money (according to union goon on YT, eh)

I thought government was supposed to run like a business.

 

[SkyPilot]

Who froze my pay for the next two years?

 

[FAB1]

"We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike.” -Adolf Hitler, May 2, 1933

This goes to show ya even a nasty man like him can sometimes be right!

PSU's want to bargin for taxpayers money, and what was that FDR said about them?

Oh damn I forgot, its not our money (according to union goon on YT, eh)

 

[James48843]

"We must close union offices, confiscate their money and put their leaders in prison. We must reduce workers salaries and take away their right to strike.” -Adolf Hitler, May 2, 1933

 

[alevin]

aww, man, the game don't work!
This one's fun tho- clikit.

Aww man. I hate the Simpsons, never watch. but just discovered my speech patterns resemble theirs closely at times. Aww crap. Gonna have to change my ways, don't want people to be confused. :laugh:

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

USPS's back-assward business practices!

That is all USG, not just USPS. It happens when you're not accountable to anyone...

 

[crws]

aww, man, the game don't work!
This one's fun tho- clikit.

 

[crws]

Thank you and please edit the crws post as he ALSO posted that other website comments without quotes. Which, BTW, was the reason I didn't and since they were back to back didn't think everyone would wig-out... sorry



I DIDN'T WRITE IT, PLEASE SEE THE POSTS...

I am really sorry that my "attempt" to counter some of the spin around here was poorly quoted... no, really, I am.

I am not sorry for the quote, as the comment was from a website that was quoted by the previous poster with very specifically spun comments and I just wanted to point out that not EVERYONE in this situation and on that website totally agree. I am on the fence, I was just trying to make a point... I just did a really, really bad job...

Wow- looks like I missed some action!
Tearing down a facility and getting ready to be excessed is distracting!
hey RMI- just goes to show the worst case of jaded that law enforcement can leave you! (He's probably not the most congenial neighbor, ya think?)
as for the #'s, looks like he may be right:
http://www.fedsmith.com/pay_rates/.
Even with the pay freeze of 2010, the GS13/4 is still up $2316 over 2009. Frankly, I'd keep my mouth shut over that- our NEW contract gives us 3.5% over 5 years.
Most bargaining unit employees hover in the 55,000 range, so we might see a $1925 gain in 5 years, with a COLA freeze until fall 2012.
He speaks of his own ilk, I'd say.

Mid & upper management is just where the USPS is targeting, and I saw a recent article about the DoD on the same track-

The U.S. Postal Service will announce March 25 a downsizing of approximately 7,500 supervisory, managerial and postmaster positions.

Most of those positions are filled, but many are not, especially in the postmaster positions, because of past attrition, said Postmaster General Patrick Donahoe in a March 9 interview with Federal Times editors and reporters.

The agency will use reductions-in-force (RIFs) and RIF avoidance measures in carrying out the downsizing, he said.

The positions targeted, which will hit as many as 10 district offices and headquarters, include 3,500 administrative positions, 2,000 front-line supervisor and manager positions, and 2,000 postmasters.

Donahoe said the announcement will be part of a broader effort to trim postal ranks by 30,000 positions this year.

BTW, I wanted to show you something-
open this http://www.usps.com/foia/_csv/OR.csv in Excel (USPS Oregon Leased Facility Report), go to Line 239.
That is our facility that is being closed:
Now, because the USPS did not negotiate an exit clause and thought they could walk in and wave a couple payments (561k/yr) in front of the Lessor, they pulled the plug on our installation before they even talked to the owners!
What do you think happened in this economy with 6/18 years remaining on the lease?
That's right! FAIL!
The USPS now gets to pay 3.36M (that's $42,075 per employee stationed there) for the pleasure of being a sub-lessor, or to have a 105,000 int. / 311,000 ext. facility stand vacant for 6 years, while continuing to pay a maintenance employee to perform daily inspections and tests.
On top of that, add insurance for fire & liability.

So you see- you won't find me in disagreement with you over the USPS's back-assward business practices! :laugh:

 

[driz]

Nah..You're fine RMI..some misreading going on..but you're not to blame...I think the quote you posted was so freaking ridiculous that people lost track that you just were just quoting this high and mighty GS-13 morron and his hypocrisy...I'd like to meet him myself and sock him in the testicles..if has some that is..:laugh:

Keep up the good work RMI..just don't quote an entire article and and try always to support a quote with a source link.. that's what Tom is saying....

Judging by the time of day I had figured this " Legend In His Own Mind" as Clint Eastwood once said, was crawling around under the table after an extended happy hour. I have known enough dudes like this over the years that they really set me off. Looks like you are a victim of mistaken identity RMI. This is your five minutes of fame....... enjoy it:laugh:

 

[Buster]

Nah..You're fine RMI..some misreading going on..but you're not to blame...I think the quote you posted was so freaking ridiculous that people lost track that you just were just quoting this high and mighty GS-13 morron and his hypocrisy...I'd like to meet him myself and sock him in the testicles..if has some that is..:laugh:

Keep up the good work RMI..just don't quote an entire article and and try always to support a quote with a source link.. that's what Tom is saying....

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

Oh, I thought it was your words. Sorry - My bad. I misread it. Still probably not needed to be repeated here, but next time please use the quote feature so we know. I will edit it now.

[.quote] xxxx[/.quote] (leave out the periods)

Thanks,
Tom

Thank you and please edit the crws post as he ALSO posted that other website comments without quotes. Which, BTW, was the reason I didn't and since they were back to back didn't think everyone would wig-out... sorry

Wow:blink:. Take a minute and read what you just wrote, all of it. Words fail me.

I DIDN'T WRITE IT, PLEASE SEE THE POSTS...

I am really sorry that my "attempt" to counter some of the spin around here was poorly quoted... no, really, I am.

I am not sorry for the quote, as the comment was from a website that was quoted by the previous poster with very specifically spun comments and I just wanted to point out that not EVERYONE in this situation and on that website totally agree. I am on the fence, I was just trying to make a point... I just did a really, really bad job...

 

[driz]

Yup, some of them are interesting, including this one:

* I'm a right-winger, with 20 plus years service in federal law enforcement agencies, and I AM LOVING EACH AND EVERY SECOND OF THIS!!!

All throughout the Bush Presidency, most federal employees and their Union fools like Jim Gage and Colleen Kelly did nothing but whine, and cry, and stomp their feet, and have hissy fits for every little thing Bush and the Republican Congress did. So then they worked tirelessly to first turn Congress over to their Democratic overlords, and then give America the LEAST qualified President in history in Barack Hussein Obama. Then the Dems spend money after money after money after money after money......so that now taking radical steps in slashing the budget is an absolute necessity.

The TRUTH is, that federal employees made out VERY well under Bush. I am currently a GS-13, Step 4. When Bush came into office in FY 2001, that position was worth $69,534 in Washington, DC. When Bush left in FY 2009, that same position was worth $95,620!! That is more than a $26,000 increase in eight years!!! But that wasn't good enough for you Democratic hacks, so you brought in your bunch of radical left-wingers who have done everything possible to ruin this country.

Most feds outside of national security and law enforcement richly deserve each and every bit of misery that's heading in your direction. Most of you are nothing but blood-sucking parasites who are living of the labor of the true American tax-payers. Federal workers contribute NOTHING to the wealth and prosperity of this country, and America would be better off if most of the federal bureacracy were to disappear without a trace.

So if this means that I have to do with $1,000 or so less annually on my pension in a couple of years after I retire, so be it! Many, many more Americans have sacrificed much more than that for the well-being of this country.

So here is to all of your worthless losers over at HUD, Education, Transportation, EPA, Commerce, Labor, ect, in this time of YOUR pain and agony:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Go GOP! Posted March 21, 2011 4:22 PM

Wow:blink:. Take a minute and read what you just wrote, all of it. Words fail me.

 

[tsptalk]

I cannot edit that post, it was a quote from the very same site that "others" posted from...

I understand now and will just be a fly on the wall.

Thank y'all for your time.

Oh, I thought it was your words. Sorry - My bad. I misread it. Still probably not needed to be repeated here, but next time please use the quote feature so we know. I will edit it now.

[.quote] xxxx[/.quote] (leave out the periods)

Thanks,
Tom

 

[Show-me]

I see you drank the corporate Free Trade Kool-Aid. All those Free Trade agreements is what sent jobs/wealth to India, China, Mexico...

That global parity is about $6/hr...as predicted by Ross Perot back in the 1992 campaign.

Nice insult but as usual you are wrong. I believed and voted for Ross Perot twice. I never believed the bull$hit coming from both your Parties as they both stood on stage and double teamed Mr. Perot with their Party Kool-Aid. Who did you vote for? Bush wrote it and Clinton Blessed it as the Holy Grail. LOL Idiots!

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

I cannot edit that post, it was a quote from the very same site that "others" posted from...

I understand now and will just be a fly on the wall.

Thank y'all for your time.

 

[tsptalk]

Not needed. My fault.