President

You might want to fill your other moderator in that calling someone's post "garbage" is being biased. A good moderator shouldn't be biased.......;)
 
Griffin said:
This bit of garbage you dregged up from three years ago is outdated. Your not helping the Republicans cause by posting it. But then again, I am a Republican and I will continue to be a Republican even when I vote against it, because this administration turned my party into the party of bulllies and liars.
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One man's garbage is another man's treasure. So your basically saying after 9-11 that we should of remained status quo? How would you have us protect ourselves? Talk it over? When you mention the word liar, think of criminals that say "put the gun down and I won't shoot your wife". A terrorist is a criminal. When you say "bully", I say "protecting my family by taking an offensive position". After all, one can only hide in a basement for so long.


BTW, his name is Mr. President, not Bush...........
 
GeorgiaGal said:
...I took the survey, and here are my results. It seems that nobody closely matches my answers ( I don't consider 58% a close match), but I was certainly surprised by the results. I would have thought Newt would be at the top of my list. I don't understand!
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When you set your priorities and positions, you have to look at the "whole candidate", not just one or two positions. These surveys are not "gold", but they do allow you to explore more about the different candidates. And then you can go to the candidates web sites, and learn more about all the positions they hold, and what THEY think should be the priorities of the nation.

This is going to be an interesting election cycle, because I think it will be the first where the internet really levels the playing field, and ALL candidates will have a shot, not just the ones the media want you to vote for.

See ALL the candidates, their records, and their plans, BEFORE you run to the voting booth.


Heck, it really doesn't matter.

Diebold has already decided who the next "Decider" is going to be anyway.....:blink:
 
James48843 said:
GGal-

There are a number of on-line aids to ask you where you stand on issues, and match you with the candidates.

Here is one such place:

http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html

After you insert all your answers, click on the 'See results" button. (Skip the registering page, it's not necessary).

You then tell us who most closely matches your answers- I'd like to know.

Thanks

and good luck...
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Thanks James, I took the survey, and here are my results. It seems that nobody closely matches my answers ( I don't consider 58% a close match), but I was certainly surprised by the results. I would have thought Newt would be at the top of my list. I don't understand!

2008 President Selector Rankings: 1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100 %) 2. Michael Bloomberg (58 %) 3. Tom Tancredo (58 %) 4. Hillary Clinton (57 %) 5. Mitt Romney (57 %) 6. John Edwards (56 %) 7. Joseph Biden (55 %) 8. Al Gore (53 %) 9. John McCain (53 %) 10. Rudolph Giuliani (52 %) 11. Christopher Dodd (52 %) 12. Duncan Hunter (48 %) 13. Barack Obama (48 %) 14. Dennis Kucinich (47 %) 15. Wesley Clark (46 %) 16. Ron Paul (46 %) 17. Bill Richardson (45 %) 18. Chuck Hagel (42 %) 19. Kent McManigal (38 %) 20. Mike Huckabee (38 %) 21. Mike Gravel (37 %) 22. Tommy Thompson (35 %) 23. Sam Brownback (35 %) 24. Fred Thompson (34 %) 25. Alan Augustson (31 %) 26. Jim Gilmore (30 %) 27. Newt Gingrich (28 %) 28. Elaine Brown (22 %)
 
I think if Edwards is nominated I will vote for him
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Edwards gives me the creeps. He's an ambulance chaser. He made his money suing the medical industry and businesses. Many doctors can no afford their malpractice insurance and /or are forced to raise their rates to compensate. Everyone blames big businesses for moving overseas yet many move to avoid these types of - spilled hot coffee lawsuits. He thinks he's helping the little guy but we all lose - except him of course.

I also don't find it honorable, as some do, that he continues to run for the biggest job in the world when his wife is ill. He will let nothing get in the way of his dream to be president. I think he should be home with his wife and young kids while they deal with their situation. He's not much good to them on the campaign trail.

Off my soapbox. :)
 
GGal-

There are a number of on-line aids to ask you where you stand on issues, and match you with the candidates.

Here is one such place:

http://www.selectsmart.com/president/2008.html

After you insert all your answers, click on the 'See results" button. (Skip the registering page, it's not necessary).

You then tell us who most closely matches your answers- I'd like to know.

Thanks

and good luck...
 
I want a leader who will:

1. keep taxes down (which means keep undue spending at bay)
2. keep us safe
3. take global warming seriously
4. support stem cell research
5. keep social security safe
6. make sure that employers pay SS and Med taxes on any and all illegals they employ
7. limit welfare to the truly needy who are poor, elderly, disabled and unable to work (I don't want to hear some able bodied guy proclaim "we gonna bbq tonite" after picking up his foodstamps - I paid for those fkn food stamps.
8. stimulate the economy (incentives for small business)
9. support the IRS and congress' attempt to close the tax gap (stamp out tax shelters for the rich, tax the underground economy)

Tell me who this is!!!!!!!!!!!

GGAL
 
The Democrats are going to whoop the Republicans in the next election because the Republicans have turned their backs on the most important base of their constituency - the US Soldier. This adminstration can fire Generals left and right until they get the guy that's willing to talk their talk. I truely believe the Generals that are stepping up have the soldiers best interests in mind, but the terms they agree to in order to get the top spots, bind them to a failed path they can not change. Every soldier knows the path we are on has only one outcome...war and more war.....Iran.....Pakistan (as soon as Musharref falls)....North Korea....Russia. Our enemies will gather strength and can afford to wait us out while we exhaust resources in Iraq and political sympathy around the globe. An absolute truth in Global Politics is: when you can afford to wait out your opponent because your opponent is exhasuting himself faster then you are, then you have the upper hand. When time is on your side - you have the upper hand. Our enemies have the upper hand, time is on their side and Bush refuses to even consider alternatives. Therefore we have lost the inititive and we can not get it back until after next election. Most soldiers know this - and they will vote for change because change is the only way to unbalance our enemies and open the door to reestablish the upper hand. We may have to conduct retrograde operations, but we can reconstitute ourselves and comeback to the fight with a fresh perspective, refreshed, retrained and with a spectrum of political options compared to the singular viewpoint of the Bush administration.

mlk_man said:
The Democrats new promise "A New Direction For America"
>>
>> The stock market is at a new all-time high and America's 401K's are
> back.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
Bush deserves as much credit for the stockmarket today, as Clinton did for 1999 stock market.
>>
>> Unemployment is at 25 year lows.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
Have you heard of anyone suggest that the retirement of the baby boomers was going to produce a glut of workers? If there was, maybe we wouldn't have to worry about so many illegals being snuck in to do the work American's won't do. Very low unemplyment also drives inflation...a certain amount of unemployment is healthy. The world is awash in US liquidity as a result of the housing bubble, which is great for the stockmarket but terrible for the dollar. Remember when it was cheap to travel to Europe? Now Europeans see the US as the land of the cheap vacation, and their safe for the most part as long as they stay to the policed areas (sound familiar....hmm...isn't this what we say about Mexico). Even when US unemplyment was at it's 25 year high was it that bad?
>>
>> Oil prices are plummeting.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
Oil prices are what?........
>>
>> Taxes are at 20 year lows.
>> A new direction from there means, what t?
Taxes are on the rise again....(simple economics, they could only be low long enough to get re-elected)
>>
>> Federal tax revenues are at all-time highs.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
The GDP is at an all time high....it's called inflation.
>>
>> The Federal deficit is down almost 50%, just as predicted over last
> year.
>> A new direction from there means. what?
The Federal deficit was 3.5 Trillion last year
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-08-02-deficit-usat_x.htm "
If you count Social Security and Medicare, the federal government's financial health got $3.5 trillion worse last year"
>>
>> Home valuations are up 200% over the past 3.5 years.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
Foreclosures of both prime and subprime mortgages are expected to peak over the next two years and the prices are dropping. How low do you think they will go?
>>
>> Inflation is in check, hovering at 20 yea r lows.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
If inflation is in check then why isn't the Fed cutting rates? and what are all these inflation woes that keep spooking the market?
>>
>> Not a single terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11/01.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
What about the soldiers that are getting killed on foreign soil. No change in direction from there means what?
>>
>> Osama bin Laden is living under a rock in a dark cave, having not
> surfaced
>> in years, if he's alive at all, while 95% of Al Qaeda's top dogs
>> are either dead
>> or in custody, cooperating with US Intel.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/07/11/terror/main3042947.shtml?source=RSSattr=HOME_3042947 "U.S. intelligence analysts have concluded al Qaeda has rebuilt its operating capability to a level not seen since just before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, The Associated Press has learned. "
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This bit of garbage you dregged up from three years ago is outdated. Your not helping the Republicans cause by posting it. But then again, I am a Republican and I will continue to be a Republican even when I vote against it, because this administration turned my party into the party of bulllies and liars.
 
Anybody but Hillary, she's way too phony and changes her positions based on the polls. She's got the media machine behind her though.
 
The Democrats new promise "A New Direction For America"
>>
>> The stock market is at a new all-time high and America's 401K's are
> back.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> Unemployment is at 25 year lows.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> Oil prices are plummeting.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> Taxes are at 20 year lows.
>> A new direction from there means, what t?
>>
>> Federal tax revenues are at all-time highs.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> The Federal deficit is down almost 50%, just as predicted over last
> year.
>> A new direction from there means. what?
>>
>> Home valuations are up 200% over the past 3.5 years.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> Inflation is in check, hovering at 20 yea r lows.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> Not a single terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11/01.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> Osama bin Laden is living under a rock in a dark cave, having not
> surfaced
>> in years, if he's alive at all, while 95% of Al Qaeda's top dogs
>> are either dead
>> or in custody, cooperating with US Intel.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> Several m major terrorist attacks already thwarted by US and
>> British Intel,< /B>
>> including the recent planned attack involving 10 Jumbo Jets being
>> exploded in mid-air over major US cities in order to celebrate the
>> anniversary of the
>> 9/11/01 attacks.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> Just as President Bush foretold us on a number of occasions, Iraq
>> was to be made "ground zero" for the war on terrorism -- and just as
>> President Bush said they would, terrorist cells from all over the region
> are arriving from the
>> shadows of their hiding places and flooding into Iraq in order to
>> get their faces blown off by US Marines rather than boarding planes
>> and heading to the United States to wage war on us here.
>> A new direction from there means, what?
>>
>> Now let me see, do I have this right? I can expect:
>>
>> The economy to go South
>>
>> Illegals to go North
>>
>> Taxes to go Up
>>
>> Employment to go Down
>>
>> Terrorism to come In
>>
>> Tax breaks to go Out
>>
>> Social Security to go Away
>>
>> Health Care to go the same way gas prices have gone
>>
>> But what the heck!
>>
>> I can gain comfort by knowing that Nancy P, Hillary C, John K,
>> Edward K, Howard D, Harry R and Obama have worked hard to create a
>> comprehensive National Security Plan, Health Care Plan, Immigration
>> Reform Plan, Gay Rights P lan, Same Sex Marriage Plan, Abortion On
>> Demand Plan, Tolerance of Everyone and Everything Plan, How to Return
>> all Troops to the U.S. in The Next Six Months Plan, A Get Tough Plan,
>> adapted from the French Plan by the same name and a How Everyone Can
> Become as Wealthy as We Are Plan.
>>
>> I forgot the No More Katrina Storm Plan.
>>
>> Now I know why I feel good after the elections. I am going to be
>> able to sleep so much better at nights knowing these dedicated
>> politicians are thinking of me and my welfare.
 
GeorgiaGal said:
... and I will not vote for Obama because I don't want a President named Obama with a Muslim background.

GGAL
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Umm. GG: You may have been imbibing in too much Worldnet Daily.

Obama is a United Church of Christ member, not a Muslim: That was just some republican scare tactics. And you believed it?

Check out this page:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp



In fact, Obama has made several very conservative speeches. So much so, that this may be one reason that Hillary is doing better in the polls among Dems than Obama. Here is one such comment printed in the papers that makes the far left nervous:


=====================================================
In an interview, Obama reportedly told the Tribune, "If I say to anybody in Iowa -- white, black, Hispanic or Asian -- that my church believes in the African-American community strengthening families or adhering to the black work ethic or being committed to self-discipline and self-respect and not forgetting where you came from, I don't think that's something anybody would object to. ... I think I'd get a few amens."
Addressing conservative criticism of the "value system," Obama also reportedly told the Tribune, "Commitment to God, black community, commitment to the black family, the black work ethic, self-discipline and self-respect. ...Those are values that the conservative movement in particular has suggested are necessary for black advancement." He added, "So I would be puzzled that they would object or quibble with the bulk of a document that basically espouses profoundly conservative values of self-reliance and self-help."
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Now, I do think he has some seasoning before he is ready to become President, but I do think that he is a very, very viable candidate.

I would not vote for Hillary, simply because she's Hillary.

But I would consider voting for Obama.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-070623obama-religion,1,1721448.story
 
fabijo said:
Though he's a long shot, I'm voting for Ron Paul in the primaries.
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Interestingly, Ron Paul is scoring well with a lot of people in my neck of the woods. The mainstream media won't give him any airplay, but a local on-line poll here placed him first among county republicans.

We'll have to wait and see if the voters in general are as savy as the on-line polls are showing. If they are, then the mainstream media will have a lot of explaining to do....
 
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