Oil Slick Stuff

Am I the only one who things oil has topped off (or is close to)? I'm going to throw some money in DCR (oil shorts) & let it ride for a bit. I'm not expecting an immediate turn around but I think it could happen at any point.

Actually I'm new to this particular thread, I'm gonna keep a close eye on what is said here!
 
Am I the only one who things oil has topped off (or is close to)? I'm going to throw some money in DCR (oil shorts) & let it ride for a bit. I'm not expecting an immediate turn around but I think it could happen at any point.

Actually I'm new to this particular thread, I'm gonna keep a close eye on what is said here!

You would first have to ask yourself, what in God's Green Earth could
slow that Freight Train. Hurricane Season ? Refinaries Increasing Production? Government Intervention? (don't think so)


On the other hand, if oil only goes to $150, the upside is much less then
the downside at this point. Maybe the Long Term, but not the Short Term
 
We will see $150 very soon and $200 within 2 years. Big oil is driving the train on this one and there's no way to stop it until THEY put on the brakes. This is the 2nd "oilman" to publicly come forth with the truth. Yes, they have an agenda - $200 oil and to drill areas currently off limits. They're going to squeeze the public pricewise until we scream "let em drill!" Don't believe the supply numbers, either...they're bogus and massaged by the BA. Supply currently exceeds demand...because of the price.

http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=165287&postcount=77
 
I agree we'll probably see $150 a barrel in the summer, but should drop in the fall. Next year is another thing.
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Do I see a turn around?:rolleyes: http://www.nymex.com/lsco_fut_condet.aspx?product=CL&month=July&cmonth=N&year=8&currPrev=C
 
I agree we sill probably see $150 a barrel in the summer, but should drop in the fall. Next year is another thing.
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No....no drilling in off limits areas. Take that money and develop AFFORDABLE alternative energy. Chevron and a few other majors are doing it, but on a small scale and because it's federally mandated in the Energy Act if they want to keep their royalty relief. It's time for USA to take the technological lead again...this is the 21st century. Let the rest of the world exhaust their fossil fuels while we move on to cleaner, renewable, more economical energy. Then they will have to come to US...for oil, which we will have reserves of and aren't dependent on, and for our alternative energy technology.
 
My My, we are going broke and won't let the Oil Companies drill in proven Oil fields? We just let the price escalate until our whole economy crashes, the dollar will be worth about 2 cents. Not good for my retirement, not good at all. This problem with energy isn't going to just GO AWAY, even if we locate and utilize the Oil that is there for the taking. USA can take the technological lead in this research even if we lighten our load by authorizing Oil to be pumped in these areas. To HELL with the Polar Bears, to HELL with the Caribou. I want a referendum!!
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My My, we are going broke and won't let the Oil Companies drill in proven Oil fields? We just let the price escalate until our whole economy crashes, the dollar will be worth about 2 cents. Not good for my retirement, not good at all. This problem with energy isn't going to just GO AWAY, even if we locate and utilize the Oil that is there for the taking. USA can take the technological lead in this research even if we lighten our load by authorizing Oil to be pumped in these areas. To HELL with the Polar Bears, to HELL with the Caribou. I want a referendum!!
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ANWR is not a proven field. It's never been drilled, reserves are estimated. There are hundreds of fields where reserves are estimated in the millions of barrels, only to come up dry once drilled. Big oil has drilled and capped more reserves than the public knows. They're sitting on them until they get the price where they want it and permission to drill in the off-limits areas, then and only then will they produce those capped reserves. There's plenty of oil available...supply is not driving the price. Big oil is running the country and Congress is too wimpy to take a stand and tell them to PRODUCE!:)
 
ANWR is not a proven field. It's never been drilled, reserves are estimated. There are hundreds of fields where reserves are estimated in the millions of barrels, only to come up dry once drilled. Big oil has drilled and capped more reserves than the public knows. They're sitting on them until they get the price where they want it and permission to drill in the off-limits areas, then and only then will they produce those capped reserves. There's plenty of oil available...supply is not driving the price. Big oil is running the country and Congress is too wimpy to take a stand and tell them to PRODUCE!:)
Plenty of oil shale here in the U.S. to work with, it's just difficult - especially since new plants have to comply with the later standards and old plants don't. Unfortunately easier to complain, hoping that they can drill where they want and get a "break" on the pollution standards. :suspicious:
 
local gas prices jumped 12 cents since 8am this morning...

Yeah I just heard our local prices are up 32 cents in the past month. :laugh:

Love to Bike,

I hear ya with that short Oil play, but be careful when shorting a bubble. A friend of mine persistently shorted CROX last year because of the same reasons. He got hammered initially, but got lucky in the end. You don't even have to be a stock market genious to realize it's completely out of hand just by looking at a long term price chart of Oil. I don't think it's any different this time.

If there's anything to make you feel better, China bought buku shares of BX at the top and now they've moved on to stockpiling Oil at all time highs.
 
They really talked around this one and solved NOTHING, AGAIN!!:mad:

Don't blame us for prices - oil execs

A Senate Judiciary Committee seeks answers from Big Oil execs for rising oil prices on day that crude crossed $130 a barrel.

By Steve Hargreaves, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: May 21, 2008: 3:47 PM EDT

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Amid increasing public outcry over record-shattering oil and gas prices, senators on Wednesday hauled industry executives in to testify about the recent runup.
The Senate Judiciary Committee called the hearing to explore the skyrocketing price of oil, which jumped over $4 a barrel to a new record of over $133. The committee grilled executives from Exxon Mobil (XOM, Fortune 500), ConocoPhillips Co. (COP, Fortune 500), Shell Oil Co. (RDSA), Chevron (CVX, Fortune 500) and BP (BP) as to how their companies can in good conscience make so much money, while American drivers pay so much at the pump.
"You have to sense what you're doing to us - we're on the precipice here, about to fall into recession," said Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill. "Does it trouble any one of you - the costs you're imposing on families, on small businesses, on truckers?"
The executives said it did, and that they are doing all they can to bring new oil supplies to market, but that the fundamental reasons for the surge in oil prices are largely out of their control.[more]
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/21/news/economy/oil_hearing/index.htm?postversion=2008052115
Yeah I watched that as the CEO calmly said he made 1.1 milliom dollars a month income:rolleyes:..Then asked what he does with these record breaking quarterly profits..he said we reinvest them...IN WHAT!?!?, their personal incomes???!!??..How about building a few more refineries.:nuts:
 
Yeah I watched that as the CEO calmly said he made 1.1 milliom dollars a month income:rolleyes:..Then asked what he does with these record breaking quarterly profits..he said we reinvest them...IN WHAT!?!?, their personal incomes???!!??..How about building a few more refineries.:nuts:


the blame lays at Congress feet far more the oil co's for the increase in costs etc.

Congress has had numerous opportunities to come up with a sound economic energy policy for years and years yet rarely does anything pass thru that isnt restrictive and drives the price up.. from limiting drilling to piling on taxes to a cost per gal of fuel.

For example:

in california, oil companies make on avg a dime on a gallon, whereas taxes make up for 62 cents (source: http://www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/margins/index.html)

are we forgetting who the real robber baron is?
 
Yeah I just heard our local prices are up 32 cents in the past month. :laugh:

Love to Bike,

I hear ya with that short Oil play, but be careful when shorting a bubble. A friend of mine persistently shorted CROX last year because of the same reasons. He got hammered initially, but got lucky in the end. You don't even have to be a stock market genious to realize it's completely out of hand just by looking at a long term price chart of Oil. I don't think it's any different this time.

If there's anything to make you feel better, China bought buku shares of BX at the top and now they've moved on to stockpiling Oil at all time highs.

Well I didn't exactly put all my retirement money in this short - I certainly don't want to get it in the shorts, so to speak.:blink:

However I'm confident that the money I put in will be well (pun intended) invested.
 
If there's anything to make you feel better, China bought buku shares of BX at the top and now they've moved on to stockpiling Oil at all time highs.
Which is exactly what BA was doing until Congress put a stop to it - buying oil at inflated price and stockpiling it - putting money in their friends pockets. Only difference is our oil is not nationalized, so we pay the price now but don't get the profit later. It's big oil and their friends in Congress and financials who are buying beaucoup shares and will reap the profits...now and later.
 
Yeah I watched that as the CEO calmly said he made 1.1 milliom dollars a month income:rolleyes:..Then asked what he does with these record breaking quarterly profits..he said we reinvest them...IN WHAT!?!?, their personal incomes???!!??..How about building a few more refineries.:nuts:
They reinvest them in speculation in the market, that's what's driving the price now...:rolleyes:
 
Actually, oil is now only a very small part (last I heard 3%) of Dubai's total economy, they were smart enough not to depend on oil and are a historical trade center to boot. Admittedly they did use oil money to get to where they are but they aren't there simply because of the rising oil prices of late.

On the other hand, the oil dependent economies like Saudi Arabia are sliding down the falling dollar and getting smacked with higher commodity (food) prices, splitting the haves and have-nots further apart.
 
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