Oil and natural gas drilling in U.S. waters

CB- I'm probably one of the two you think will say "It won't work".

I'll tell you this- I am all for trying ANYTHING THAT HELPS.

It's a bad, bad deal going on, and whatever ANYONE can think of to give a try, I'm all for trying it and seeing if it helps the situation at all.

MSM did run a piece on them about two weeks ago- when they held their press conference originally, and before they got the contract you mentioned above.

If it works, great. the issue I see is that we can't grow enough hay to cover the area that needs help. The scale is huge. If these guys can protect the 26 miles up at Walton Beach, more power to them.
 
EPA has been asking the public for any ideas they have for specific things to try- here's the link to submit ideas.

http://www.epa.gov/bpspill/techsolution.html

This gets ideas straight into the hands of the people who are charged with cooridinating the emergency. They have teams of people working on trying things, and support for any and all ideas.

I posted that a few weeks ago, here:
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=269302&postcount=39

The priorites are, and have been-

#1- Stop the flow into the Gulf from this scene

#2- Inspector other rigs for any issue with blow-out preventers, or equipment issues, so that there aren't any other ones that are in a situation like this one was- that they knew had problems, broken wires or circuits, etc, and make sure those get fixed before any driller continues with work. That was the "Swat teams" that the President was referring to- He ordered all rigs to have special techincal teams to travel to all sites that are currently drilling, and verify that there are no defective blowout prevention devices that are known about.

#3- clean, try to keep the oil away from land, and do whatever anyone can think of or try in order to start the cleanup.
 
Louisiana Fishermen Contemplating Suicide, Need Mental Health Services


Written by WGNO ABC26 News |
Friday, 21 May 2010 14:00


The situation in the gulf is getting so dire for some in the seafood industry, they've thought about committing suicide. Steps to intervene are underway.

Desperation is setting in in Southeast Louisiana. "I spoke to a group of fishermen, mainly Vietnamese Americans and a group of them came up to me and said, they told me that they contemplated suicide because they're in such despair," says Congressman Joseph Cao. He says fishermen are feeling compounded stress on top of post-Katrina troubles. "For some people, this is almost a boiling point where they can no longer handle it and they're going to crack."

"These are grown men that broke down and cried this morning because they don't know what to do and we don't know how long it's going to be," says Plaquemines Parish President Billy Nungesser.

That's why Cao and organizations like Volunteers of America are working to get mental health workers on the ground to intervene. "They've just recovered as a result of their businesses, their homes and the rebuilding effort and now you have a number of these small businesses, these fishermen, who have to go through this all over again," says Voris Vigee with the Volunteers of America. She says organizations are expediting crisis and mental health counseling among other disaster-related services.

More: http://www.neworleans.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=399556&Itemid=2603
 
Pray for success of the "topkill" attempt this morning.

On CNN, "Bill Nye, the Science Guy" explains the "Topkill" procedure they are going to try-
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/26/gulf.oil.spil/

If it works, it will cut off the flow.

If it doesn't work- it could make the gusher even worse, AND make it harder to do anything in the future- and it could continue to flow for months and months.

Pray.
 
Pray for success of the "topkill" attempt this morning.

On CNN, "Bill Nye, the Science Guy" explains the "Topkill" procedure they are going to try-
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/05/26/gulf.oil.spil/

If it works, it will cut off the flow.

If it doesn't work- it could make the gusher even worse, AND make it harder to do anything in the future- and it could continue to flow for months and months.

Pray.
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New, giant sea oil plume seen in Gulf

By MATTHEW BROWN and JASON DEAREN Associated Press Writers © 2010
The Associated Press


May 27, 2010, 3:33PM

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NEW ORLEANS — Marine scientists have discovered a massive new plume of what they believe to be oil deep beneath the Gulf of Mexico, stretching 22 miles (35 kilometers) from the leaking wellhead northeast toward Mobile Bay, Alabama.

The discovery by researchers on the University of South Florida College of Marine Science's Weatherbird II vessel is the second significant undersea plume recorded since the Deepwater Horizon exploded on April 20.

The thick plume was detected just beneath the surface down to about 3,300 feet (1,000 meters), and is more than 6 miles (9.6 kilometers) wide, said David Hollander, associate professor of chemical oceanography at the school.

Hollander said the team detected the thickest amount of hydrocarbons, likely from the oil spewing from the blown out well, at about 1,300 feet (nearly 400 meters) in the same spot on two separate days this week.

The discovery was important, he said, because it confirmed that the substance found in the water was not naturally occurring and that the plume was at its highest concentration in deeper waters. The researchers will use further testing to determine whether the hydrocarbons they found are the result of dispersants or the emulsification of oil as it traveled away from the well.

The first such plume detected by scientists stretched from the well southwest toward the open sea, but this new undersea oil cloud is headed miles inland into shallower waters where many fish and other species reproduce.

The researchers say they are worried these undersea plumes may be the result of the unprecedented use of chemical dispersants to break up the oil a mile undersea at the site of the leak.

Hollander said the oil they detected has dissolved into the water, and is no longer visible, leading to fears from researchers that the toxicity from the oil and dispersants could pose a big danger to fish larvae and creatures that filter the waters for food.

"There are two elements to it," Hollander said. "The plume reaching waters on the continental shelf could have a toxic effect on fish larvae, and we also may see a long term response as it cascades up the food web."
Dispersants contain surfactants, which are similar to dishwashing soap.

A Louisiana State University researcher who has studied their effects on marine life said that by breaking oil into small particles, surfactants make it easier for fish and other animals to soak up the oil's toxic chemicals. That can impair the animals' immune systems and cause reproductive problems.

"The oil's not at the surface, so it doesn't look so bad, but you have a situation where it's more available to fish," said Kevin Kleinow, a professor in LSU's school of veterinary medicine.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7025368.html
 
BP Buses In 400 Workers During Obama's Visit

Jefferson Parish Councilman Calls Company's Actions 'Shameful'


POSTED: 2:18 pm CDT May 28, 2010
UPDATED: 5:21 pm CDT May 28, 2010

GRAND ISLE, La. --
Officials from Jefferson Parish claim BP bused 400 cleanup workers into Grand Isle on Friday in time for a visit from President Barack Obama. Jefferson Parish Councilman John Young said the workers were brought in to clean oil off Grand Isle's beaches.The extra workers were brought in for Friday only, at a rate of $12 an hour, officials told WDSU. They were mostly from Terrebonne and Lafourche parishes.
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Jefferson Parish Councilman Chris Roberts called BP's efforts "shameful.""The level of cleanup and cooperation from BP in the last week in no way compares to the effort shown on the island today," Roberts said. "This is a total shame that a mockery has been made of this visit by the executives of BP."

During a visit Friday to Louisiana, Obama toured a beach where tar balls are washing ashore and attended a briefing at a Coast Guard station in Grand Isle.

Oil has been washing ashore in Grand Isle for about a week.

http://www.wdsu.com/news/23711711/detail.html
 
BP Buses In 400 Workers During Obama's Visit

Jefferson Parish Councilman Calls Company's Actions 'Shameful'


http://www.wdsu.com/news/23711711/detail.html#
Jefferson Parish Councilman Chris Roberts called BP's efforts "shameful.""The level of cleanup and cooperation from BP in the last week in no way compares to the effort shown on the island today," Roberts said. "This is a total shame that a mockery has been made of this visit by the executives of BP."
Not only that..As soon as the the President took off...there was only 12 people left cleaning the beaches...Talk about a facade..:mad:
 
He must be a Big Lier, yesterday he said he had 20,000 people working on the cleanup?:nuts:
 
Note- BP's on-line live webcam appears to be offline right now. The last time I saw it, a few hours ago, it was still showing full gushing of oil out into the ocean. No appearance of all of any change from the "top kill" attempt.


And now the webcam has gone off-line.

Disappointing.
 
BP chief operating officer Doug Suttles said Friday the top kill was going basically as planned, though the pumping has stopped several times.
“The fact that it’s stopped and started is not unusual,” Suttles said. “We’re going to stay at this as long as we need to.”
He said the company has also shot in assorted junk, including metal pieces and rubber balls, to try to counter pressure from the well. It seemed to be helping, Suttles said.
I saw this Press conference..you could tell he was talking out his ass....:mad:..I hope he wasn't bullsh!tting like he was about the bogus cleaning crew they mustered for the President.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37394541/ns/gulf_oil_spill
 
Note- BP's on-line live webcam appears to be offline right now. The last time I saw it, a few hours ago, it was still showing full gushing of oil out into the ocean. No appearance of all of any change from the "top kill" attempt.


And now the webcam has gone off-line.

Disappointing.
It was just mentioned on CNN's AC360 that the Webcam if off and on top being serviced, and that's why the live streaming is off right now.
 
Fishery closure update (effective May 28):


  • NOAA Fisheries Service revised the fishery closure effective 6:00 p.m. EDT on Friday, May 28. The closure now encompasses approximately 25 percent of the federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico exclusive economic zone.
Marine mammals and turtles (effective May 27):

Sea Turtles

The total number of sea turtles verified from April 30 to May 27 within the designated spill area is 238. The 238 turtles verified include three entirely oiled sea turtles that were captured alive during dedicated on-water surveys last week: two small Kemp's Ridley and a larger sub-adult Loggerhead turtle. They were taken to the Audubon Aquarium where they are undergoing de-oiling and care and are doing well. In addition, 222 dead and 13 live stranded turtles (of which three subsequently died in rehab) have been verified. A total of 12 live turtles are now in rehabilitation. One of the live stranded turtles –caught in marine debris -- was disentangled and released. One of the turtles that stranded dead – a Kemp’s Ridley - had visible evidence of external oil.

All others that stranded dead and alive have not had visible external oil. Turtle strandings during this time period have been higher in Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama than in previous years for this same time period. This may be due in part to increased detection and reporting, but this does not fully account for the increase.

Dolphins


From April 30 to May 27, there have been 24 dead dolphins verified within the designated spill area. So far, one of the 24 dolphins had evidence of external oil. It was found on an oiled beach. We are unable at this time to determine whether the animal was externally covered in oil prior to its death or after its death. The other 23 dolphins have had no visible evidence of external oil.

Since April 30, the stranding rate for dolphins in Louisiana has been higher than the historic numbers for the same time period in previous years. This may be due to increased detection and reporting and the lingering effects of the earlier observed spike in strandings.
*Strandings are defined as dead or debilitated animals that wash ashore

(from NOAA's website this morning.
http://response.restoration.noaa.go...pic_topic)=2&topic_id(entry_subtopic_topic)=1 )
 
Not to demean the losses, but the following old story is for perspective. We humans don’t give much priority to saving wild creatures from the effect of our activity unless the media gets excited, and that’s as temporary as our attention.
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/en/news/features/dolphins-die-in-trawler-nets/
“Observers of pair trawling in 2001 saw 53 dolphins killed in 116 hauls of the net; with two Irish boats in 1999, 145 dolphins were killed in 313 hauls, with 30 animals being killed by one single haul of the net. There are hundreds of boats in the whole EU fleet mainly from UK, France, Spain, Ireland, the Netherlands, and Denmark.”
 
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