James48843
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Morning on the beach- near Pensacola- formerally known as the place with the world's whitest beaches....
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Oil and natural gas drilling in U.S. waters
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Buster
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It looks like if they can make a Cotton Picker they could make an Tar Ball Pickerupper?
Careful there, you are on the fringe of political Incorrectness.
nnuut
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Close don't count, unless you have a evil mind!:laugh::toung:Careful there, you are on the fringe of political Incorrectness.
XL-entLady
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I hadn't thought one thing except Eli Whitney and cotton gin until I read this exchange. Buster, suspicions confirmed. :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Buster
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True enough..If Black Magic is nothing he would touch in context with voodoo, then neither should Nnut's referral to Cotton Pickers in context with Tarball pickers..goose-gander thingI hadn't thought one thing except Eli Whitney and cotton gin until I read this exchange. Buster, suspicions confirmed.
XL-entLady
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You are so funny, my friend .... :nuts:True enough..If Black Magic is nothing he would touch in context with voodoo, then neither should Nnut's referral to Cotton Pickers in context with Tarball pickers..goose-gander thing
James48843
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'This will never be the same':
Kevin Reed weeps as he looks at puddles of crude that washed up overnight on the formerly white sands of
his hometown Pensacola Beach, Fla. "I'd like to take the CEO of BP and jam his face in that pile
on the beach," he says.
Photo- San Francisco Chronical Newspaper
'This will never be the same':
Kevin Reed weeps as he looks at puddles of crude that washed up overnight on the formerly white sands of
his hometown Pensacola Beach, Fla. "I'd like to take the CEO of BP and jam his face in that pile
on the beach," he says.
Photo- San Francisco Chronical Newspaper
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James48843
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Hundreds join hands to protest fossil fuels
PENSACOLA BEACH, Fla. – Hundreds of people including Florida's governor joined hands on an oil-stained strip of beach in the Florida Panhandle as part of an international demonstration against offshore drilling Saturday.
Organizers of "Hands Across the Sand" said similar protests were held at beaches around the nation and in several foreign countries.
The demonstration also was intended to show support for clean alternatives to fossil fuels.
. Charlie Crist returned to Pensacola Beach, where he walked with President Barack Obama on the snow white sand beach June 15. That was before gobs of goo from the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico came ashore last week.
Demonstrators shared the beach with tourists and heavy equipment standing by in case more oil comes ashore.
Michael DeMaria, a clinical psychologist from Pensacola, led demonstrators from a pavilion to the shore like an environmentalist pied piper, tooting softly on a native American-style flute. He said he often tells patients to go swimming in the Gulf as part of therapy.
"It breaks my heart," DeMaria said of the spill.
More: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill_protest
PENSACOLA BEACH, Fla. – Hundreds of people including Florida's governor joined hands on an oil-stained strip of beach in the Florida Panhandle as part of an international demonstration against offshore drilling Saturday.
Organizers of "Hands Across the Sand" said similar protests were held at beaches around the nation and in several foreign countries.
The demonstration also was intended to show support for clean alternatives to fossil fuels.
. Charlie Crist returned to Pensacola Beach, where he walked with President Barack Obama on the snow white sand beach June 15. That was before gobs of goo from the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico came ashore last week.
Demonstrators shared the beach with tourists and heavy equipment standing by in case more oil comes ashore.
Michael DeMaria, a clinical psychologist from Pensacola, led demonstrators from a pavilion to the shore like an environmentalist pied piper, tooting softly on a native American-style flute. He said he often tells patients to go swimming in the Gulf as part of therapy.
"It breaks my heart," DeMaria said of the spill.
More: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill_protest
nnuut
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Any farmer knows that a cotton picker is a machine that picks the cotton off of the BUSH!
James48843
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New movie out- 'Gasland', about the destruction of whole communities by the independent Gas Well drillers using fracking, and avoiding the clean water act, due to legislation pushed through in the rogue Bush years.
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James48843
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Extract from Public Law 109-58, which was signed into law in 2005:
That's the language which made it legal for those oil and gas company operators to poison people.
crws
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check this... you'll be amazed at how flagrant the industry is about lying. They are scared.
The Gasland "debunking" industry sponsored site.
They quote the ProPublica link (below) and take notation out of context.
http://www.energyindepth.org/2010/06/debunking-gasland/
Fracking fluid list per Pennsylvania
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/oilgas/FractListing.pdf
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June 26, 2010 at 6:55 am
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/oilgas/FractListing.pdf
You liars
Where is the guar gum????
In order to frack, you need some fracking fluid … a mix of over 596 chemicals.” According to a U.S. Department of Energy/Ground Water Protection Council report, “any single fracturing job would use a few of the available additives.” The most prominent of these additives, besides sand, is a substance known as guar gum, an emulsifier commonly found in ice cream.
“A typical hydraulic fracturing job will use 10 to 12 ingredients other than water and sand,” Smith said.
The full report of water contamination in Colorado that states the high probability it is mining related.
http://www.propublica.org/feature/colorado-study-links-methane-in-water-drilling-422
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June 26, 2010 at 7:12 am
Go ahead, read their link… all of it, not just the part out of context.
They are liars.
Context from our friends at ProPublica: “Drinking water with methane, the largest component of natural gas, isn’t necessarily harmful. The gas itself isn’t toxic — the Environmental Protection Agency doesn’t even regulate it — and it escapes from water quickly, like bubbles in a soda.” (Abrahm Lustgarten, ProPublica, 4/22/09)
http://www.propublica.org/feature/colorado-study-links-methane-in-water-drilling-422
Thyne, standing by his report, said researchers had traced the origin of the gas by conducting the equivalent of a forensic investigation, analyzing its isotopic signature, or molecular fingerprint. The molecular structure showed that most of it was thermogenic, meaning it matched the deeply buried deposit where gas was being drilled, called the Williams Fork Formation. A minority of the samples were difficult to identify by this method, so Thyne used another scientific process to study them. He is confident they, too, were thermogenic in origin.
even Tech Ticker is in on the action with their first interview with the filmaker, then with a rebuttal from a Gas Industry fund manager...
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticke...06930.html?tickers=BP,HAL,APC,CHK,ECA,UNG,XLE
The Gasland "debunking" industry sponsored site.
They quote the ProPublica link (below) and take notation out of context.
http://www.energyindepth.org/2010/06/debunking-gasland/
Fracking fluid list per Pennsylvania
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/oilgas/FractListing.pdf
FrackU says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 26, 2010 at 6:55 am
http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/oilgas/FractListing.pdf
You liars
Where is the guar gum????
In order to frack, you need some fracking fluid … a mix of over 596 chemicals.” According to a U.S. Department of Energy/Ground Water Protection Council report, “any single fracturing job would use a few of the available additives.” The most prominent of these additives, besides sand, is a substance known as guar gum, an emulsifier commonly found in ice cream.
“A typical hydraulic fracturing job will use 10 to 12 ingredients other than water and sand,” Smith said.
The full report of water contamination in Colorado that states the high probability it is mining related.
http://www.propublica.org/feature/colorado-study-links-methane-in-water-drilling-422
FrackU says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
June 26, 2010 at 7:12 am
Go ahead, read their link… all of it, not just the part out of context.
They are liars.
Context from our friends at ProPublica: “Drinking water with methane, the largest component of natural gas, isn’t necessarily harmful. The gas itself isn’t toxic — the Environmental Protection Agency doesn’t even regulate it — and it escapes from water quickly, like bubbles in a soda.” (Abrahm Lustgarten, ProPublica, 4/22/09)
http://www.propublica.org/feature/colorado-study-links-methane-in-water-drilling-422
Thyne, standing by his report, said researchers had traced the origin of the gas by conducting the equivalent of a forensic investigation, analyzing its isotopic signature, or molecular fingerprint. The molecular structure showed that most of it was thermogenic, meaning it matched the deeply buried deposit where gas was being drilled, called the Williams Fork Formation. A minority of the samples were difficult to identify by this method, so Thyne used another scientific process to study them. He is confident they, too, were thermogenic in origin.
even Tech Ticker is in on the action with their first interview with the filmaker, then with a rebuttal from a Gas Industry fund manager...
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticke...06930.html?tickers=BP,HAL,APC,CHK,ECA,UNG,XLE
Buster
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What exactly are people wanting?..I saw the Documentry..I was having global warming Documentry and Ozone hole documentry, New Madrid earthquake, and killer astroid documentry flashbacks..
Look, I've seen all this kind of hype and crisis mongering before, blown out of proportion..I'm not saying however that this latest thing on Natural gas mining is untrue....I want to see more data and more senerios than a few isolated areas that the gas leaked that this video made look worse than maybe it is...I also heard that the Gas companies fixed the problems after they were discovered...and paid the people for damages..
Guess my real question is this..Without fuel oil or Natural Gas..how are you gonna heat your homes this winter?..and if you say by Electric..then guess how that power is generated?..Yes I know, some is Hydro, some is wind, some is solar, some is Nuke and some may even be geo thermic..But a vast majority of our electricity is Coal/oil and natural gas produced.
Again we are at the necessary evil thing again..Plan now to replace your furnaces or should you maybe have done that years ago, when everyone was wanting green this and green that..$8,000 to $10,000 to convert your home to solar and/or geothermic heat..better get started now if you can afford it..or its Gonna be a long cold winter if they stop producing natural gas....Catch 22..you still need electricity to run the pumps and fans..Better put in a Windmill ..hope you have steady winds too...Cloudy days suck for Solar..maybe stock up on kerosene..no wait..can't get that, it comes from oil..Hmmmm, Maybe buy lots of blankets instead.
No being a smartass or down playing the problems with Gas production..But it's all we have right now..we just need to do it safer and more effeciently and so putting bans on wells either on land or sea is just gonna create a whole new set of problems that this economy can't handle right now.
Look, I've seen all this kind of hype and crisis mongering before, blown out of proportion..I'm not saying however that this latest thing on Natural gas mining is untrue....I want to see more data and more senerios than a few isolated areas that the gas leaked that this video made look worse than maybe it is...I also heard that the Gas companies fixed the problems after they were discovered...and paid the people for damages..
Guess my real question is this..Without fuel oil or Natural Gas..how are you gonna heat your homes this winter?..and if you say by Electric..then guess how that power is generated?..Yes I know, some is Hydro, some is wind, some is solar, some is Nuke and some may even be geo thermic..But a vast majority of our electricity is Coal/oil and natural gas produced.
Again we are at the necessary evil thing again..Plan now to replace your furnaces or should you maybe have done that years ago, when everyone was wanting green this and green that..$8,000 to $10,000 to convert your home to solar and/or geothermic heat..better get started now if you can afford it..or its Gonna be a long cold winter if they stop producing natural gas....Catch 22..you still need electricity to run the pumps and fans..Better put in a Windmill ..hope you have steady winds too...Cloudy days suck for Solar..maybe stock up on kerosene..no wait..can't get that, it comes from oil..Hmmmm, Maybe buy lots of blankets instead.
No being a smartass or down playing the problems with Gas production..But it's all we have right now..we just need to do it safer and more effeciently and so putting bans on wells either on land or sea is just gonna create a whole new set of problems that this economy can't handle right now.
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