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NSurf9 Account Talk
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Intrepid_Timer
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#3 Woohoo!!!
Oh, wait... this isn't the Autotracker list
:laugh: Now that was funny!
What are your thoughts on moving these TSP limit posts over into a thread in the TSP News forum / TSP Transfer Limits sub-forum? I can move them over there and keep a link here for those looking.
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forumdisplay.php?40-TSP-News
It seems like they may be hidden in here from those who may not read NSurf9's Account Talk thread.
... Or do we want them out of the spotlight?
Let me know.
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/forumdisplay.php?40-TSP-News
It seems like they may be hidden in here from those who may not read NSurf9's Account Talk thread.
... Or do we want them out of the spotlight?
Let me know.
Intrepid_Timer
Well-known member
You might consider starting a website as I know TSPtalk has a lot of "guests" so I doubt many of them would start a message board account just to say "I"m in".
nsurf9
Member
I have wondered if James' site, names on the petition, and other efforts could help this effort.
Right now, I'm still hoping for 100 commitments before going to the Rose attorneys. We're closing in on 60 quickly. I'd also like to see the premiums to contribute something appropriate, considering they derive revenues from TSP participants.
My though has been that as long as I am fortunate to keep 1st place on the autotracker and this issue on my thread, the issue will have the most visibility. Fortunately, the forces have been on my side. Perhaps TSP Talk and Fantasy TSP could donate a spot for the site, if we get that far.
At some point (probably after a favorable legal review), the main body of the effort will probably need to go on its own site so media can refer to it and thru which donations can be facilitated. Unfortuately, I have very little knowledge with respect to putting an internet site together for it.
nsurf9
Member
As a seperate note, I'm fasinated to watch the powers that be, the rumors that swirl, at a push-and-pull tug-of-war at these index levels and volumns, against the back drop of positive US earns reports, European slow disintegration, and Chinese slow down. Amazn! just amazin.
Makes me kinda glad I don't have any IFTs.
Makes me kinda glad I don't have any IFTs.
nsurf9
Member
dannyboy your #55 the double-nickle (it will be our secret)
pmcint01 #56
dawg #57 mixing it up
I'd rather be in, than just complaining about loosing thousands of dollars in one direction and/or another on a whip and saw cause I was prohibited a $20 IFT.
Occasionally, the connection between my fingers and brain short circuit some. With respect to listing names (handles), I will not list those that only sent a P.M. (private message) to me, as that seems to be the tenor or implication of their commitment.
Tom, TSP Talk, I agree with you on James efforts being helpful. He had an amazing 4000 signatures, I hope the site can be revived, if not still active.
At 56 commitments, we are closing in fast on 60. I, nonetheless, have given you all my commitment at 50 to make an initial appointment with
the Rose attorneys in DC to take the case, but I sure hope I can go with 100 commitments.
If we do put together a winnable case; and, if we can effectively get the word out to a bulk of the federal government employees, and they understand what has been unfairly taken from them - freedom and ability to effectively manage their personal account - I believe the 4000 will look like a small number.
Lastly, if a judge orders attorney fees and court costs, we'll get most everything back.
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nsurf9
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IF YOU WANT MORE IFTs PER MONTH, AND ARE WILLING TO DONATE TO A LEGAL FUND FOR THAT PURPOSE, PLEASE POST "I'm in" TO THIS THREAD.
Perhaps we will be able say to our grandchildren . . . sometimes you just got to take a stand - and know that you have, infact, walked the talk.
Come on > -.08 AGG and < + .38 DWCPF (and what every EFA is) go! go! go!
Gives me an excuse to post the "I'm in" banner.
Perhaps we will be able say to our grandchildren . . . sometimes you just got to take a stand - and know that you have, infact, walked the talk.
Come on > -.08 AGG and < + .38 DWCPF (and what every EFA is) go! go! go!
Gives me an excuse to post the "I'm in" banner.
tspshareholder.org Site is empty and domain is for sale.
nsurf9
Member
IF YOU WANT MORE IFTs PER MONTH, AND ARE WILLING TO DONATE TO A LEGAL FUND FOR THAT PURPOSE, PLEASE POST "I'm in" TO THIS THREAD.
Perhaps we will be able say to our grandchildren . . . sometimes you just got to take a stand - and know that you have, infact, walked the talk.
Tom1tom1: Thanks, your #58, I belive that would be 29 left and 29 right.
pmcint01, YOU ARE THE BOMB! Great collateral stuff on a google search with info from the James' site, research, etc. The site isn't there, of course, but how do I buy tspshareholder.org????
Perhaps we will be able say to our grandchildren . . . sometimes you just got to take a stand - and know that you have, infact, walked the talk.
Tom1tom1: Thanks, your #58, I belive that would be 29 left and 29 right.
pmcint01, YOU ARE THE BOMB! Great collateral stuff on a google search with info from the James' site, research, etc. The site isn't there, of course, but how do I buy tspshareholder.org????
nsurf9
Member
I just went godaddy.com and and some others for site location registration. Pretty straight forward.
I also found something I recall reading at the time. The following is a link to the TSP Boards comments after publishing in national registry.
These are some of the arguments our injunction will surely meet. The question is how much is real and how much is faking-it. The record shows the TSP Board did precisely what they wanted. If they wanted members to where green hats when they executed an IFT, I confident we would be doing so - because no one of any authority could challenge them in their forum. Those funds their managing are, however, are ours. And, we do have legal authority to challenge and fully examine fiduciary violations by the Board and its Executive Director on a more level playing field - US Federal District Court.
http://www.myfederalretirement.com/public/253.cfm
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SkyPilot
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nsurf9
Member
IF YOU WANT MORE IFTs PER MONTH, AND ARE WILLING TO DONATE TO A LEGAL FUND FOR THAT PURPOSE, PLEASE POST "I'm in" TO THIS THREAD.
Perhaps we will be able say to our grandchildren . . . sometimes you just got to take a stand - and know that you have, infact, walked the talk.
Thanks Skypilot #59
and Cybernaut your #60.
I'm posting the below reference, again. You should read it. It was published at the time of the entry of the, then new 2008 IFT restriction rule, into federal register. The read is long, but it throughly makes their argument and refutes many of the disscenting comments I had considered. Nonetheless, they dismiss all dissent as is was their forum - and no one could effectively challege them. I invite you to re-visit their comments. Our injunction will see them again.
My take is that, even if I bought all their facts and arguments are true, I still know I have lost literally thousands of my dollars because of the chilling effect that so few a number of IFTs causes all its members.
It is clear to me, an IFT clearly shouldn't make you endure a nearly 30% loss, or more, of your whole retirement as did happen to some members in 2008, because you were afraid to go to G for safeharbor, as you would be stuck there for the remain month, and thus loose any following rally.
Further, we paid a handsom fee of $41million for that internet based system, only to have our ability to move our retirement one more time than the old paper based system that allow one IFT per month, if we had our request was received in the mail by the 15th of the month, and effective on the follow 1st of the next month.
http://www.myfederalretirement.com/public/253.cfm
Perhaps we will be able say to our grandchildren . . . sometimes you just got to take a stand - and know that you have, infact, walked the talk.
Thanks Skypilot #59
and Cybernaut your #60.
I'm posting the below reference, again. You should read it. It was published at the time of the entry of the, then new 2008 IFT restriction rule, into federal register. The read is long, but it throughly makes their argument and refutes many of the disscenting comments I had considered. Nonetheless, they dismiss all dissent as is was their forum - and no one could effectively challege them. I invite you to re-visit their comments. Our injunction will see them again.
My take is that, even if I bought all their facts and arguments are true, I still know I have lost literally thousands of my dollars because of the chilling effect that so few a number of IFTs causes all its members.
It is clear to me, an IFT clearly shouldn't make you endure a nearly 30% loss, or more, of your whole retirement as did happen to some members in 2008, because you were afraid to go to G for safeharbor, as you would be stuck there for the remain month, and thus loose any following rally.
Further, we paid a handsom fee of $41million for that internet based system, only to have our ability to move our retirement one more time than the old paper based system that allow one IFT per month, if we had our request was received in the mail by the 15th of the month, and effective on the follow 1st of the next month.
http://www.myfederalretirement.com/public/253.cfm
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