nnuut's Account Talk

[Gt137]

Re: Learning to love this bear market

According to the TSP website, from 1998-2007 the 10 year compound return for the G fund is 5.12% vs 5.88% for the C fund. C fund is down about 16% year to date.

Seems like a lot of risk for a little reward.:suspicious:

 

[Gumby]

Re: Learning to love this bear market

According to the TSP website, from 1998-2007 the 10 year compound return for the G fund is 5.12% vs 5.88% for the C fund. C fund is down about 16% year to date.

Seems like a lot of risk for a little reward.:suspicious:

That is what buy-N-hold in stock funds does to your returns.

 

[Rod]

Re: Learning to love this bear market

C fund is down about 16% year to date.

C Fund is now down 19.97% for the year... OUCH!

 

[Rod]

That is what buy-N-hold in stock funds does to your returns.

Yeah, perhaps this will prove to the TSP board that we need more versatility!

 

[nnuut]

I have a friend that is close to retirement, and was advised by a financial manager months ago to invest all he could on this down trend as Dollar Cost Averaging, would make him much money, he is investing the MAX. I tried to talk to him numerous times that it would be better to put his contributions in the "G" and when the Market turns around then go back into equities. He is losing his Butt off and will not listen, he should talk to Birchtree, who is losing his BUTT off! :suspicious:

 

[nnuut]

Good night folks, but not a good one!

 

[Birchtree]

Poor Birchtree has not lost anything yet - only been devalued deeply but will continue to be wrong and stay long. The future is still brite and we may have a Fed rate cut on the way. There are 18 billion or more shares out there short and the price will be paid for the naked short rule violators - today was perhaps their last hurrah.

 

[nnuut]

Poor Birchtree has not lost anything yet - only been devalued deeply but will continue to be wrong and stay long. The future is still brite and we may have a Fed rate cut on the way. There are 18 billion or more shares out there short and the price will be paid for the naked short rule violators - today was perhaps their last hurrah.

I know Birch it may work for you, but you have the leverage. When it turns around you should do fine, but when you are a small investor it can really hurt and take much time to get back to even and start making a profit. Buy on!

 

[Steadygain]

Excellent posts from both of you; each conveying a solid philosophy for those with lots of leverage and those with little. Those with little have to guard their losses and wisely choose their gains.

 

[Guest2]

Excellent posts from both of you; each conveying a solid philosophy for those with lots of leverage and those with little. Those with little have to guard their losses and wisely choose their gains.

Steady has his head on straight and articulates the general concensus.
With the average American having less then $50,000 in their retirement
accounts, I'd venture to say that the majority of TSP participants don't
have the money nor the leverage to absorb such losses. That is why God
allowed us to go back to the (G) Fund without limitations. With the newly
documented discussions concerning fees for IFT's, I'm now thinking that
God will some day charge us a fee to go back to the (G). The (C) is down
about 20% YTD, the (I) is down about -28%,,,,, It would take you 5 to
7 years in the (G) to make up for such losses, just to break even. Now,
if anyone believes the stock funds will average 13% per year for the
next 2.5 years, please raise their hands! Cause I'm about to layeth the
smackdown on your Bull-Headed ways. (just kidding). I am one of the
many who do not have the TIME nor the MONEY to attempt such a risky
proposition of buying, loading up, stocking up, polishing my brass balls
or catching a falling knife while the market gives 2% then take away 8%
of my hard earned money. Blessed are those who can. I've been blessed
in other ways. But, working until I die is a real factor I must overcome.

Sorry Norm, I'll try to make my points less spacious, I promise !

 

[nnuut]

SB don't change a thing, I agree and I LIKE IT!

 

[nnuut]

Now, this is REAL NEWS, but is it GREEN?

Toilet-paper researchers create 3-ply tissue

Quilted Northern to market it to those looking for ‘quality’ bathroom time

updated 7:11 p.m. ET, Wed., Sept. 17, 2008

NEENAH, Wis. - If two-ply toilet paper is good, then three-ply tissue must be better. At least that's what toilet-paper researchers in northeastern Wisconsin hope.
Yes, there is such a thing as a toilet-paper researcher. And a team of them at Georgia Pacific's Innovation Institute in Neenah has come up with a three-ply version of its Quilted Northern product.
The new product will be launched Monday. The company touts the toilet tissue as "ultra-soft" and says it plans to market the product to women 45 and older who view their bathroom as a "sanctuary for quality time."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26759554/

 

[Frixxxx]

Now, this is REAL NEWS, but is it GREEN?

Toilet-paper researchers create 3-ply tissue

Quilted Northern to market it to those looking for ‘quality’ bathroom time

Wow, now I can just hear the advertising on that....more toilet paper for only 1/3 more the price.....

But really they could call it "Investor Wipes, 2-ply for the bum, 1 to cry in" But then that only works during bear markets.

 

[nnuut]

Wow, now I can just hear the advertising on that....more toilet paper for only 1/3 more the price.....

But really they could call it "Investor Wipes, 2-ply for the bum, 1 to cry in" But then that only works during bear markets.

Great idea or you could treat a couple of friends and yourself for the price of one?

 

[nnuut]

Well, Well rumor from a CNBC reporter claims that we will use a Resolution Trust Corporation RTC like was done in the 1980s. ZOOOM the Market Peaks!!! Let me off of this Roller Coaster!! YIKES!!!!

 

[Silverbird]

Well, Well rumor from a CNBC reporter claims that we will use a Resolution Trust Corporation RTC like was done in the 1980s. ZOOOM the Market Peaks!!! Let me off of this Roller Coaster!! YIKES!!!!

boing boing boing YIPE I thought I was bungee jumping and now I'm flying over the crevass. We'll see what this ride looks like tommorow morning - the ghosts of markets past seem to drift out after the market closes these days.

 

[Birchtree]

The Dow gave up over 950 points in two days for no reason except fear - tomorrow we could easily take back 1000 points in one day - does that sound too bullish. With 18 billion shares short anything could be possible. I want my big V turnaround back to October '07.

 

[nnuut]

Anything is possible in this Market, It's NNUUTS!!!!!!!!View attachment 4717

 

[Birchtree]

The past 18 months have seen more volume climaxes in the stock market than at any time in history. Today we had a 1200 point volatility move - no one is expecting a raucous day tomorrow except the short sellers - if the bulls force them to begin covering we could blast into orbit. That would be so much fun.

 

[kar_crazy]

i need a good blast off tomorrow i hope along way to climb but i have time on my side i hope