Market Talk / October 22nd - 28th

I would welcome the opportunity to manage my own retirement with a conversion from defined benefit to defined contribution. My wife did a conversion within the FRS (Florida Retirement System) a few years back, and with state contributions and price appreciation - she has made over $180,000, that's extra. Talk about being jealous - who cares about an annuity. Keep the lousy fixed annuity and let me invest the money for the next thirty years and when I pass the money stays in the family. The social security savings plan would work the same way. It's all voluntary because we ain't all dems. More and more states are looking at this defined contribution concept the way industry has accepted it - Uncle will be along sooner or later - but obviously not soon enough.
 
Nice comments!:D

Home sales down.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061026/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/economy

My thoughts:

1. This increases the likelihood Fed will pause longer/possibly even drop rates slightly. Remember that average 6 months after fed stops increasing rates that it pulls a decrease - we are on track. Ignore what the Fed tells us, pay attention to what they do.

2. The impact of the fed rates will drop the dollar. This helps the I-fund.

3. The article tells us that average home sale price has dropped significantly. Then goes on to tell us durable goods are up. Housing impacts durable goods, but there is a lag. I expect that durable good will slow as well. Just there will be a lag.

4. The impact here will be to slow the economy and thus impact C&S funds negatively. This effect will be lagged. I expect this drop will occur but may not occur till January. January is a long ways off and a lot of things can happen. Right now this means I probably will lean toward being out of the market on Jan. 2.

5. I think we are seeing the effect of the internet on the stock market. More investors are now thinking about the Santa Rally and thus it comes about as a result. The hedge fund guys are not going to buck the trend but rather profit while the getting is good and will wait to pull the rug out. The closer we get to November the less likely I think a big pull back will be. It also lessen the likelyhood that it would be sharp since dip buyers would step in initially. This means I'll be staying on the train till I see real red.

6. The I-fund may be the place to be for awhile. Dropping dollar and an OSM that is following a climbing US market. It may not be a bad idea to diversify into the S-fund as well.

7. North Korea or Iran can always mess up a party, so I'm still watching for signs of smoke (OK we got smoke -- how about fire).
 
Daily Yak

The Kingdom of TSP
Daily Edition
October 26, 2006 Closing

Yak, Doodles & Tea Leaves

Kingdom Yak:
Pro-Yak....................................S&P at 6 yr high. Earnings good. Lube supplies holding.

Con-Yak...................................The market will even buy the bad news!

Jester-Yak................................Oxygen!

Doodles:
Socks [$SPX] Closed at..............1389.08, up +6.86
Stops......................................Alert: 1376. Trail: 1363
Trend (MACD-Hist)....................increasing at +0.998.
Overbought/sold (S-STO)...........[80] 98.18 [20] flat.

Lube (NYM) Closed at.................60.36, dn -1.04
Oil Markers...............................<70= ok, 70-75= worry, >75= panic.

Tea Leaves:
Yakndoodles.............................Yellow.
 
My oh my - wouldn't tomorrow be a perfect day to set the humongus bear trap and make Teddy bleed like never before? They have been jumping on increasing their short positions refusing to capitulate. Ferdinand has been gently doing the stair stepper routine slowly drawing in more and more to finally begin to shake them off - watch'em roll down the mountain into the valley. But first they have to buy back their positions before they let go - watch for some head spinning action. It could be a day that will live in infamy - and come from nowhere and issue the blindside to the upside - warmly known as a meltup. I've been paying particular attention to how little optimism has been regenerated by the current momentum. That is very good, and an indication that this bull market has a lot of growing to do before it reaches maturity. The wall of worry is still intact. I'm ready to smell bear blood.

Dennis - permabull #1
 
08:33 am : S&P futures vs fair value: -5.2. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -6.8. Futures indications pull back slightly following a weak GDP report, suggesting an even lower start stocks. An advance read on GDP showed that the economy grew at a slower than expected 1.6% pace in Q3 (consensus 2.1%); the chain deflator -- a key inflation measure -- came in at a lower than expected 1.8% (consensus 2.8%).
 
I figure the GDP report further backs the thought of a soft landing -- meaning the markets should react positively to that news... but the futures indicate the opposite. Maybe its profit taking in the morning followed by a stron afternoon... did I just jinx that?!
 
I believe the core PCE deflator was up 2.3%, down from 2.7% in the 2nd quarter. These are market friendly numbers. Consumer spending was at 3.1% from 2.6% in the 2nd quarter. The slower the better - makes for a longer expansion. Eventually short rates will begin to fall and perhaps down to 4% in the next two years. Some people believe history will show this breakout is as earth-shaking as that mighty breakout of the DJIA was in 1982. I was shaking the piggy bank in 1982 trying to stay invested without being blown out at the bottom. The market took off and no one could understand why until a year later. To make a long story short I made over $300,000 in ten months - it left me over confident and breathless. I plan to make even more this trip - but will not get overconfident and will maintain my risk levels. Riders up!
 
From Briefing.com: Even though there isn't any compelling fundamental reason to be selling stocks in earnest, especially amid stable interest rates, commodity prices well off their highs and strong earnings growth, the Dow hitting a record high for the 13th time in 18 tries yesterday raises concerns about stocks being overbought. An advance read on Q3 GDP showing the economy grew at a slower than expected rate of 1.6% has provided an additional excuse for investors to take some money off the table, even though the GDP data overall suggest the much desired soft landing is on track.
 
slower growth and controlled inflation is great news, especially after a strong earnings season... you'd think the best is still ahead... wake up joe-6 pack and buy, buy, buy!
 
Every talking head in the financial media is selling the "soft landing" story this morning. Hindsight may be perfect but foresight is the game. So my question: where is the basis for deciding that a slowing economy will stop slowing? That is, could not both a soft landing scenario and one with a hard landing and recession look exactly the same at this point in the process?

I don't trust the wags at all, but there are some pretty insightful people on this board. Does the data in hand lend any credence to either a hard or soft landing? If someone had the patience to sort it out, I would venture that the last "soft landing" was preceded by numbers similar to these. I also suspect that the last "hard landing" was also. Seems to me that picking the pleasant one is based mostly on a heavy dose of wishful thinking; could go either way.
 
I say let'em sell all they want, there are plenty of buyers ready to step in for lower prices. There is one explosive moment on the way that will blow a clean path right through the bears. Put your ear to the ground and you'll hear thunderous hoofs approaching. It will be climactic in scope. Just be patient.
 
Will be interesting to see what the last hour brings. Not to mention Monday, assuming the selloff today holds.
 
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