I fund for October 2008

[350zCommTech]

EAFE final of -$0.6330
plus FV Monday (previous) of +$0.4302 = -$0.2028
minus FV Monday of -$0.4009 = - $0.6037 final :worried:

Is that the 3rd or 4th -FV in a row?

 

[Corvette]

Let's say, in a worst case scenerio, the US dollar first approaches zero worth and then at some point is converted for pennies on the dollar to some new currency, will the I fund go hyperbolically north on the dollar trade and secondly, if the US $ is devalued, will the I fund retain its value after conversion of the US dollar to some new currency occurs. I am concerned that the TSP lacks any hedge against a complete dollar collapse.

I think your scenario is unlikely at the moment. Other world currencies are losing value against the USA dollar. The yen is one of the major exceptions.

You are thinking that the I fund will be worth more because the dollar tanks. The exchange might be more, but the stocks will be down more. Where is the gain?

I would uses a 3 x 5 example. 3 is the exchange rate and 5 is the stock prices.
If the exchange rate goes to 30 and the stocks go to 0.1. 30 x 0.1 is less than 3 x 5. You may have hedged the dollar, but you still lose.

If the USA dollar tanks, which country's stock market would be a hedge against a complete dollar collapse. I see none. I think your hedging idea will not work.

The Nikkei is a good example. When the dollar weakens against the yen, the Nikkei often goes down. The I fund actually is losing more right now, with the Nikkei at a 26 year low and a strong yen.

The yen is king right now, but the Nikkei is tanking. Japanese goods will be too expensive.

If there is a complete dollar collapse, I think the I fund would be the worst idea.

The I fund is great if the dollar slowly loses value and there is no world panic.

 

[Corvette]

Is that the 3rd or 4th -FV in a row?

I did not count

I actually was going to guess a higher -FV. The FV adjustment right now appears to be the change of the day and not an adjustment.

The I fund does not change in proportion to the US markets. It appears that Barclays must use a greater percentage to keep up with the downward prices.

 

[Corvette]

As of today. G funders are top dog. :blink:

 

[Frixxxx]

How much for z little I fund, muhaaa, muhahaha!!!!!:blink:

 

[Corvette]

G fund 12.6660 up .0038
F fund 11.8262 down .0569
C fund 9.7438 down .3189
S fund 11.0751 down .5297
I fund 12.0689 down .6037 :worried:

FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.4009

new 2008 low for the I fund :worried:

 

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 6.41%
AORD down 0.34% :worried:


FV for Tuesday (previous) = +$0.4009

 

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate of +$0.3449
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.4009 = *$0.7458

dollar down 0.01% = 87.26

 

[Corvette]

EAFE estimate of +$0.3047
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.4009 = $0.7056

dollar up 0.23% = 87.45
VIX = 76.5

 

[Corvette]

WOW!

We are in the money.

ka ching ka ching

 

[Corvette]

EAFE final of +$0.3286
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.4009 = $0.7295
plus FV Tuesday (guess) of +$0.8000 = $1.5295

dollar down 0.72% = 86.71

 

[Eagle_Addict]

EAFE final of +$0.3286
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.4009 = $0.7295
plus FV Tuesday (guess) of +$0.8000 = $1.5295

dollar down 0.72% = 86.71

Anyone out there that got out for TODAY and locked in those huge losses???? Anyone??!?!?!?!?!

I am still holding 50S/50C....can't stop now,hell, I am down too much, LET IT RIDE!!!!!!!\

EA

 

[GUCHI]

i'm in the same boat EA been letting it ride !!!!

 

[Corvette]

Anyone out there that got out for TODAY and locked in those huge losses???? Anyone??!?!?!?!?!

I am still holding 50S/50C....can't stop now,hell, I am down too much, LET IT RIDE!!!!!!!\

EA

If somebody did, I do not think they would tell the world.

I made some mad money. I bought some I fund yesterday

 

[Frixxxx]

If somebody did, I do not think they would tell the world.

I made some mad money. I bought some I fund yesterday

Best IFTs to save for an end of month....in for today, out for tomorrow!!!!!!

 

[Corvette]

EAFE final of +$0.3286
plus FV Tuesday (previous) of +$0.4009 = $0.7295
plus FV Tuesday of +$0.7002 = $1.4297 final

 

[Corvette]

G fund 12.6673 up 0.0013
F fund 11.7751 down 0.0511
C fund 10.7956 up 1.0518
S fund 11.8894 up 0.8143
I fund 13.4986 up 1.4297

FV for Wednesday (previous) =-$0.7002

 

[Corvette]

Nikkei up 7.74%
AORD up 1.34%


FV for Wednesday (previous) = -$0.7002

 

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate of +$0.3558
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.7002= +$0.3444

dollar up 0.01% = 86.23


It appears Europe is off daylight savings time this week.

 

[Corvette]

early EAFE estimate of +$0.7111
minus FV Wednesday (previous) of -$0.7002= +$0.0109

dollar up 0.01% = 86.23