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Silverbird said:
However, changing the whole U.S. tax system....not going to happen.
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I think you've brought out a lot of good points.

Here, however, I believe some huge changes will not only happen but we 'the good ole USA' will be 'forced' to make these changes.

We either worship and immensely pay honor and tribute to our Mother CHINA (said with thundering cheers with all the bells and whistles) or the delay of substantially higher taxes ends.

There is simply NO WAY 'Politics' can continue holding this ever increasing RISING LAKE back much longer. The DAM is cracking my friends (Hallaluja) and the U.S. Tax System will suck blood out of turnips...:D

Thank you !!

Brought to you by the Commie pinko Society


p.s. Hi CB -- I agree she knows her stuff
 
Minnow said:
makes one want to go and look at the FairTax stuff again, no?
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I looked and liked the first time, haven't changed. Even told the DNC so when they sent me a questionnaire a few years ago. One of the premises of the Fair Tax is that it would provide incentives for companies to bring their operations back to the states by eliminating the corporate tax burden, which would then make us way more competitive with other countries as a potential base of operations.

Read a major newspaper article today about a high-tech company in this state that sells their technical product to china for incorporation into solar panels, which are then sold back to US. Green energy should be produced here, ya think? cut the transportation cost part of the panels substantially, we could quit subsidizing solar and it could make a buck here and finally go head to head with fossil energy sources maybe on its own 2 feet.
 
coolhand said:
Steady, this is an infinitely more complicated issue than that and cannot easily be discussed on a simple MB. Read "The World is Flat". You will be amazed at how much deeper this subject actually is.
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Coolhand, I sincerely appreciate this post my friend but HONESTLY that is the whole reason why I try to distance myself from 'Politics'. I know way more than you realize -- way more about the details of how the Federal Government is structured and operates... the influence Corporations and Industries have on the 'Global Population ... the Money Club that controls who joins and what every country wanting to join has to go through and how the Major Players (few in number) have it so easy and make it so hard on the others. I know how one Goverment is tied to another - how the USA is designed to drain the resources of other Nations and how they in turn are a draining pipe to China. I know about many of the covert operations that have transpired over the years... and how what is 'in the light' and what is known --- is based entirely on what's in the shadows and will remain in secret.

You are absolutely RIGHT 'this is an infinitely more complicated issue than that and cannot easily be discussed' - because when JFK became President the Government had already been working hand and hand with the Organized Mob. Plans had long been in place to attack and overthrow Cuba and he was given the total assurance it would not hit the media - he would not be blimished - and the USA would come out looking all the better. So can we really blame JFK ?? once the details are elaborated??

In the same light does anyone know 'the complicated details in their entireity - to throw everything on Obama and make 'him' the constant target of our aggression?

It's all a Circus - change the players and the Circus remains the same.
 
Steadygain said:
Coolhand, I sincerely appreciate this post my friend but HONESTLY that is the whole reason why I try to distance myself from 'Politics'. I know way more than you realize -- way more about the details of how the Federal Government is structured and operates... the influence Corporations and Industries have on the 'Global Population ... the Money Club that controls who joins and what every country wanting to join has to go through and how the Major Players (few in number) have it so easy and make it so hard on the others. I know how one Goverment is tied to another - how the USA is designed to drain the resources of other Nations and how they in turn are a draining pipe to China. I know about many of the covert operations that have transpired over the years... and how what is 'in the light' and what is known --- is based entirely on what's in the shadows and will remain in secret.

You are absolutely RIGHT 'this is an infinitely more complicated issue than that and cannot easily be discussed' - because when JFK became President the Government had already been working hand and hand with the Organized Mob. Plans had long been in place to attack and overthrow Cuba and he was given the total assurance it would not hit the media - he would not be blimished - and the USA would come out looking all the better. So can we really blame JFK ?? once the details are elaborated??

In the same light does anyone know 'the complicated details in their entireity - to throw everything on Obama and make 'him' the constant target of our aggression?

It's all a Circus - change the players and the Circus remains the same.
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Wow. Great post! I'm going to give you kudos for that. :)
 
alevin said:
Read a major newspaper article today about a high-tech company in this state that sells their technical product to china for incorporation into solar panels, which are then sold back to US. Green energy should be produced here, ya think? cut the transportation cost part of the panels substantially, we could quit subsidizing solar and it could make a buck here and finally go head to head with fossil energy sources maybe on its own 2 feet.
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Easy...easy. The technology is in the solar cells, which are being made by the US company - I assume you are talking about First Solar? Assemblying into huge panels is NOT the high value added step, this is is the solar equivalent of stuffing boards into a very huge and fragile computer casing and shipping the result. Actually would be more angry if they were making the Solar cells in China and doing the panel assembly here, which is the usual practice since solar panels are huge and hard to ship.

The thing that's nuts about this idea is the panels are made of up multple solar cells and are huge. Shipping them is a perilous enterprise. It may be because you need a huge factory with lots of huge machines in it to move those bloody panels around, and the cost of the land makes a big difference. The other thing about panel production is it is highly automated due to the size and weight of the panels so there aren't as many employees as you would think with the floor space (if you get hit by one for an industrial building you could get crushed, there is no way a human can physically pick the large size ones up. First Solar's solar cells use a technology that becomes cheaper as the solar cell gets larger so their panels are..huge).

Now my arguement with the US is a different thing, we don't have a big enough market to justify building a panel plant here except on a city by city basis - because if the electricity infrastructure (for solar power) isn't capable of taking solar the only projects are going to be local, single industrial plant, or house by house. Development of the grid, however, though there are projects being funded and lots of R&D, still we do not have enough to jump to large scale production for the US market (Germany, Italy, Korea and others are the markets)

China has announced some very gradious huge solar power projects, and First Solar wants to be there. I think they sound a bit too much like their 7 Gorges Dam Project, largest solar power farm in the world (actually I think they already did the ground-breaking for this one) may sound good as a byline but it's not practical. But you can't blame First Solar for wanting to put their panel plant near the possible biggest project for solar.
 
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Silverbird said:
Easy...easy. The technology is in the solar cells, which are being made by the US company - I assume you are talking about First Solar?

Actually SB, I'm talking about Applied Materials.....' And I probably did get the story a little bit garbled, but bottom line is we're reimporting panels, and the article had logic to it about economic policy changes that would allow for fiscally-efficient production here instead of China

Now my arguement with the US is a different thing, we don't have a big enough market to justify building a panel plant here except on a city by city basis - because if the electricity infrastructure (for solar power) isn't capable of taking solar the only projects are going to be local, single industrial plant, or house by house. Development of the grid, however, though there are projects being funded and lots of R&D, still we do not have enough to jump to large scale production for the US market I agree the grid as a whole can't handle the production if we were to make them more affordable here in general -which means adding local plants and/or house by house production/storage or we start redirecting investment to upgrading/adding to the grid-or all of the above wherever it makes sense.
China has announced some very gradious huge solar power projects, and I was talking Applied Materials First Solar wants to be there. I think they sound a bit too much like their 7 Gorges Dam Project (been there, seen that, studied it-agree with you), largest solar power farm in the world (actually I think they already did the ground-breaking for this one) may sound good as a byline but it's not practical. But you can't blame First Solar for wanting to put their panel plant near the possible biggest project for solar.
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Whoa, no problem with that, just a problem with our inability to bring panel production/jobs back here that can support itself without government price support/incentives/rebates, when AM is sending tech overseas to production factories there for reimport here (subsidized by rebates to consumers/communities).
 
Applied Materials - manufactures equipment that is used in the production of solar cells and panels, they sell all around the world (well that's slightly hyperbole - those countries producing solar cells and panels). From what I remember, they mostly produce their equipment here - the equipment is highly specialized and there is only a small market out there - most of their overseas work is maintaining their equipment. They are the largest producer of equipment for solar cell and panel production in the world.They also offer a full turnkey lines for both the production and panel products using both their own products and those of other companies (only one or possibly 2 other companies can offer a full line). They do not produce solar cells or assemble panels themselves.

And I wish they were selling more of their equipment here, but most of the solar cell and panel consumption is outside of the U.S. (due to our old grid and lack of incentives). The US represents no more than 10 percent of the world market, mostly in California, with New Jersey and a few other states and localities in the game. Unfortunately that means a lot of Applied's sales for solar panel equipment are in Germany, Japan, Korea, with only some in the US, so they sell where their equipment is needed. :(
 
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Evergreen Solar manufactures here, and exports about 70% of its production. Germany, Spain and Portugal are big importers, because their governments have made a decision to support solar.

Now, our government is starting to go that route. Prices per watt installed are lower than ever before, and there is a 30% federal tax credit, along with some states giving state level incentives. I'm looking at possibly doing a system at my home- a small one to start- a 2KW system, but it is still about 15K outlay to start with. Then 30% tax credit ($4500), and a energy company program that reimbruses up front at $2.48 a watt ($4960), means that the 15K outlay really only costs $5540, and then the power company will buy the power from me at 11 cents a kilowatt hour. (Not great, but not bad either. )

Thinking hard about that now.
 
major solar manufacturer--in China:

http://www.groupsat.com/en/index.asp

Just hired two American Manufacturing specialists for six months temp jobs to help them increase production at their China factory of "Flexible Solar Panels". Ready soon to begin major export to the U.S.

Cost-- competitive with U.S. or less.

Here we go again.
 
Note- I got this today in my e-mail. It's another website that offers only USA MADE products.

Here is their newsletter for today:

[FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica,sans-serif]China Dumps USA Debt; New Products, Sale
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[FONT=Verdana,Arial, Helvetica,sans-serif]According to the Wall Street Journal, the most recent numbers available show China dumped a record $34 billion in USA debt bonds in December alone.

Until recently Washington's ability to fund their huge spending deficit was dependent on borrowing money from the Chinese. Ironically, it has been the money they earn selling chintzy goods here that they are loaning back to us. Washington has winked at China's currency manipulation, selling goods here below fair market value, ignoring dangerous chemical poisoning, massive environmental pollution, and horrific worker safety issues. All because China has been willing to fund Washington's addiction to debt. This has undermined literally hundreds of American industries ability to compete, allowing unemployment to surge and our wages to drop.

This year, Washington needs to fund at least $1.6 trillion (I would say really $2 trillion+) in new debt, while at the same time refinancing trillions in old debt that is coming due. Now suddenly we need to find buyers to not just replace China, but buy the bonds they are dumping. I do not see how it is possible, much less sustainable. What is about to happen? Best case is higher interest rates in the near future. Worst case..?

Hope without action is delusion.

We can turn this around by just buying more of what our neighbors make. Where there is a real alternative why keep someone in China employed, while our own folks suffer? For example, Sovereign Big & Tall employs Americans in Allentown, PA. A sweatshirt, etc. could be made there, or in China, and the choice is ultimately with the buyer.

The real way to fix this economy is to roll up our sleeves and do what Americans do best – make it happen. That American attribute is something the government just can't buy.

New products –

I am particularly excited about a new product that is ultra-green and cuts foreign energy use to literally zero. Some new solar or fusion gizmo? Not at all. Look back to a company with nearly 100 years of history – American Mower Company of Shelbyville Indiana and their surprisingly affordable push mowers! Why use foreign oil to mow at all? Plus, no pollution at all! If just 1% of the households with yards would switch to push mowers it would save roughly five million gallons of gas per year.

Tired of tossing sandwich bags? Innovative designer Kristine Lebow has developed a line of cool reusable lunch bags that will really change the amount of plastic we use. Reuse is actually greener than recycling, and how many of the plastic bags actually end up in the trash? Why not be green in style?

Bully Tools not only builds the best snow shovel around (http://madeinusaforever.com/mubusnmushma.html , they also make an amazing array of lawn, construction, and farm related tools. We have just added a total of nine more, including several shovels, an agriculture fork, hoe, post hole diggers, etc. All use American produced 14 gauge steel and a triple reinforced fiberglass handle that will last decades. Proudly developed and made in Ohio.

The Divotmaster was developed by a golfer and tool maker to make it ridiculously easy to fix divots on the golf course. There are two models – one easily screws onto putters, and the other includes a stem. Invented and made in Colorado.

On Sale This Week:

The sale on winter snow storm related items has been extended through Monday the 22nd due to my delay in finishing this newsletter. From Tuesday morning, workout related items will be on sale.

Link to Sale: http://madeinusaforever.com/todayonlysale.html
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I'm going to be in the market for a new set of tires for my wife's Silverado shortly.

I'm plugging that here, to remind myself to look for American made tires.

That puts us back to the first posting in this thread. I need to find a set of American made tires, and I am beginning my quest. The United Steelworkers posts the codes of American-made tire factories on their website.

Here is the latest list from them:

http://www.usw.org/media_center/news_articles?id=0409
 
James48843 said:
I'm going to be in the market for a new set of tires for my wife's Silverado shortly.

I'm plugging that here, to remind myself to look for American made tires.

That puts us back to the first posting in this thread. I need to find a set of American made tires, and I am beginning my quest. The United Steelworkers posts the codes of American-made tire factories on their website.

Here is the latest list from them:

http://www.usw.org/media_center/news_articles?id=0409
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Thanks for that.
I have owned 3 sets of Cooper Lifeliner's before buying USA was the trend.
I bought them from a 3rd generation family tire shop and because they were highly recommended and USA made was the reason I bought them.
They were excellent tires for my Honda Prelude and our Subaru Legacy wagons.
Never had them on a larger vehicle, however.
 
James48843 said:
I'm going to be in the market for a new set of tires for my wife's Silverado shortly.

I'm plugging that here, to remind myself to look for American made tires.

That puts us back to the first posting in this thread. I need to find a set of American made tires, and I am beginning my quest. The United Steelworkers posts the codes of American-made tire factories on their website.

Here is the latest list from them:

http://www.usw.org/media_center/news_articles?id=0409
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You are SOL..Some of the tires on that list may be made here in the USA like Toyota Camrys..but most are owned by Japanese companies.

Cooper is the only true American tire
 
The U.S. Department of Transportation’s Launches “Buy America” Webpage
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U.S. Transportation Secretary LaHood Unveils New DOT Webpage on ‘Buy America’​

WASHINGTON – U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood today unveiled a new U.S. Department of Transportation ‘Buy America’ webpage that will help American businesses reap the full benefits of the Obama Administration’s historic investments in transportation infrastructure. Speaking at a Building America’s Future Policy Forum in Charleston, South Carolina this morning, Secretary LaHood announced this latest effort to promote Buy America compliance by consolidating and improving access to Buy America provisions across all DOT agencies on one centralized webpage.

The new site can be accessed at http://www.dot.gov/buyamerica.

“The Obama Administration is making historic investments in America’s infrastructure – investments that lay the foundation for our long-term economic health while creating good-paying jobs right now,” said Secretary LaHood. “We’re also committed to maximizing the economic benefits of these infrastructure investments through Buy America provisions that keep American companies healthy and families working.”

Buy America provisions ensure that transportation infrastructure projects are built with American-made products. Through Buy America, the Department of Transportation supports an entire supply chain of American companies and their employees, maximizing the economic benefit of infrastructure investments.

While there are similarities, the Department of Transportation’s operating administrations have different Buy America statutory provisions. The new website launched today will provide access to each agency’s Buy America provisions, requirements and waiver processes on one web site. Companies can also subscribe to receive alerts when new information on Buy America for U.S. Department of Transportation-funded infrastructure projects is posted.
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American made clothing-

Astees.com : a wonderful maker of fairly priced, environmentally conscious tees and thermal tees, their stuff is wonderful. http://astees.com/

Campbellvile Apparel : a maker of underwear. Supplies the military, but sells online retail. The company's briefs are less expensive than ones found at Macy's or Walmart. http://www.camapp.com/

Bill's Khakis : a maker of high end khakis, only manufacturer in the USA, refuses to go anywhere else. Products are sort of pricey, but quality and long life are exceptional. http://www.billskhakis.com/

The New England Trading Company : sells home-ware products that are made by craft-people throughout New England. Has a sizable environmentally sensitive offering. Bedroom, bath, around the house. Made in New England products. http://www.thenewenglandtradingcompany.com

New Balance Shoe Company : Does do some offshore manufacturing, but has many lines that are made only in the USA. Buy to induce the company to bring home all lines. Make a point to point out what you are doing.

Gitman Brothers Shirts : High quality, but pricey shirts. Buttons won't drop off in the wash. Shirts are long lasting for the value conscious. http://www.gitman.com/

D'Accord Shirts : limited color and style selection, but excellent quality. Priced affordable. Buttons won't fall off in the wash. Some, but not all are made in the USA. You have to look - http://www.shop.daccordinc.com/Mens-Casual-Shirts-Epaulet-Shirt-4436-USA-4436.htm
 
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In honor of Labor Day- a reminder of how to buy American made Union-labor produced tires.
The U.S. Department of Transportation requires that all tires sold in the United States carry a code which shows the company and plant that made the tire. The code would look like this: DOT BE XX XXX XXX (where the Xs stand in for numbers and/or letters that are not part of the plant ID code)
The two symbols (either two letters or a letter and a number) which follow DOT indicate the company and the plant where a tire was manufactured. For example, the above code indicates a tire made by B.F. Goodrich in Tuscaloosa, AL. The following is a listing of U.S. unionized tire DOT codes. By comparing this list to the code on the tire you are buying, you can be certain you are getting a union-made (United Steelworkers - USW) tire.


Union-made tires made in the United States:
AN, BE, BF, CC, DA, DY, D2, E3, JJ, JE, JF, JN, JT, JP, MP, PL, MC, MD, MJ, MK, MM, PJ, PY, PT, PU, TA, UP, UT, VE, W1, YE, YU, Y7, 2C, 2M, 3M, 4D, 5D, and 8B


Union-made tires made in Canada:
JU, PC, and UK
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When you buy an American-made Union Labor tire, you are helping to support DOMESTIC manufacturing in America, and a living wage for American workers.

Union members can also get a 10% discount on those American-made Union labor Goodyear tires with this coupon:


http://www.unionplus.org/autos-cars/goodyear-tire-discounts-car-services#union
 
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