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How About a POLITICS subforum
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XL-entLady
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Good morning! I'm back from my project, and note with interest (and a little trepidation) that we can't leave this subject and go on to others. So I’ll add the best political information that I’ve seen lately. I hope you all enjoy the read! 
Lady
Kirby: Open letter to our new president-elect
By Robert Kirby
Tribune Columnist
Salt Lake Tribune
Dear Mr. President:
Congratulations on your victory at the polls. You are now the leader of the free world whether anybody likes it or not. Frankly, I give you about a week to figure out that you don't.
As a participant in the process that put you in office, I am writing to offer you the benefit of the common man's advice. Men don't come more common than me. Ask my wife.
First, please do not let the victory go to your head. You aren't smart as you think you are. In fact, you aren't even as smart as your supporters claim. We're all going to find that out in the next four years, so there's no point in pretending otherwise.
It doesn't take a genius to be president. I offer as proof any number of dolts we have elected to the country's highest office. So please remember that the trust we've placed in you isn't necessarily a compliment.
The truth is that most Americans could do your job. They could even be good presidents if they remembered to keep things simple. And that's what I'm writing to you about now.
Most Americans know what needs to be done. We learned it growing up, or at least those of us with decent parents did. Presumably, that includes you. Here's what my parents taught me that would also work in the White House.
ENVIRONMENT -- If you make a mess, you have to clean it up. It doesn't matter how long ago you made the mess, or who else helped, you still have to clean it up--even if it takes all day.
FOREIGN POLICY -- You are not the most important person in the world. If you think you are, you need to be taken down a notch or two.
EDUCATION -- Stupidity will always cost more than tuition.
NATIONAL DEFENSE -- Bullies always have to look over their shoulders. Be strong but don't pick on your sisters, or your father will kick your ass when he gets home.
CRIME -- A punishment equal to or worse than the deed is the most effective way of remembering not to do it again.
ECONOMY -- If you want something, go earn the money for it. If you borrow more than you can repay, you deserve to have your thumbs broke.
HEALTH CARE -- Eat right, work hard, don't smoke, brush your teeth, wear your seat belt, and look both ways before crossing the street. If it's not your fault, we'll help you pay to fix it.
There's more, but I think you get the point. Our problems aren't that complicated. Your presidency shouldn't be either.
Best of luck
Robert Kirby
Salt Lake Tribune
Lady
Kirby: Open letter to our new president-elect
By Robert Kirby
Tribune Columnist
Salt Lake Tribune
Dear Mr. President:
Congratulations on your victory at the polls. You are now the leader of the free world whether anybody likes it or not. Frankly, I give you about a week to figure out that you don't.
As a participant in the process that put you in office, I am writing to offer you the benefit of the common man's advice. Men don't come more common than me. Ask my wife.
First, please do not let the victory go to your head. You aren't smart as you think you are. In fact, you aren't even as smart as your supporters claim. We're all going to find that out in the next four years, so there's no point in pretending otherwise.
It doesn't take a genius to be president. I offer as proof any number of dolts we have elected to the country's highest office. So please remember that the trust we've placed in you isn't necessarily a compliment.
The truth is that most Americans could do your job. They could even be good presidents if they remembered to keep things simple. And that's what I'm writing to you about now.
Most Americans know what needs to be done. We learned it growing up, or at least those of us with decent parents did. Presumably, that includes you. Here's what my parents taught me that would also work in the White House.
ENVIRONMENT -- If you make a mess, you have to clean it up. It doesn't matter how long ago you made the mess, or who else helped, you still have to clean it up--even if it takes all day.
FOREIGN POLICY -- You are not the most important person in the world. If you think you are, you need to be taken down a notch or two.
EDUCATION -- Stupidity will always cost more than tuition.
NATIONAL DEFENSE -- Bullies always have to look over their shoulders. Be strong but don't pick on your sisters, or your father will kick your ass when he gets home.
CRIME -- A punishment equal to or worse than the deed is the most effective way of remembering not to do it again.
ECONOMY -- If you want something, go earn the money for it. If you borrow more than you can repay, you deserve to have your thumbs broke.
HEALTH CARE -- Eat right, work hard, don't smoke, brush your teeth, wear your seat belt, and look both ways before crossing the street. If it's not your fault, we'll help you pay to fix it.
There's more, but I think you get the point. Our problems aren't that complicated. Your presidency shouldn't be either.
Best of luck
Robert Kirby
Salt Lake Tribune
CountryBoy
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James48843
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Hey- I'm among the top offenders- but you know what?
I love each and every one of you. You're family.
Each family has their own quirks- kind of like the Uncle who you only see at Thanksgiving- who has silly habits- but you still love them anyway, cause they are family.
All of you- I won't mention any names because if I leave anyone out - well, I would be sorry. But all of you are family. And I enjoy a great debate. Makes me think hard about what I believe, and why.
And in the end, we are ALL - A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N-S. Part of this great nation of ours. Proud to be part of the mix- from the far right to the far left, and everyone in between.
Thank you, Family members. L;-)
I love each and every one of you. You're family.
Each family has their own quirks- kind of like the Uncle who you only see at Thanksgiving- who has silly habits- but you still love them anyway, cause they are family.
All of you- I won't mention any names because if I leave anyone out - well, I would be sorry. But all of you are family. And I enjoy a great debate. Makes me think hard about what I believe, and why.
And in the end, we are ALL - A-M-E-R-I-C-A-N-S. Part of this great nation of ours. Proud to be part of the mix- from the far right to the far left, and everyone in between.
Thank you, Family members. L;-)
ATCJeff
Well-known member
I assume that "amen" earlier was to me, and I'm a girrly Bird. I'll just spread it around. Hello All you guys out there, with a special Wave to ATCJeff: Amen Brother!
Thanks
Silverbird
Well-known member
I assume that "amen" earlier was to me, and I'm a girrly Bird. I'll just spread it around. Hello All you guys out there, with a special Wave to ATCJeff: Amen Brother!That's it. I've taken all I can stand. I'm so offended that you did not offer a "Amen Brother"
CountryBoy
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Whew, Let's just make some money now or at least preserve what we have until this market turns around. Oh, Tom can PM me with the rest of that joke. :laugh:
CB
CB
Show-me
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I find that many of us agree and disagree but are part of the same family. I love the people here, all of the people here. I find the forum a level playing ground because as humans we are flawed by our visual perceptions of people. Here we can not see black, white, male, female, Christian, Muslim, gay, or straight. I don't care what demographic you are from I just want "us" to make money or in my case loose as little as possible.
There are many things we can disagree on, but lets focus on the things we have in common the most. President-Elect Obama is my President and while I did not vote for him I am proud of him and my countrymen. Does the word countrymen cover the women folk too?
Tomorrow is a new day and we will prevail.
There are many things we can disagree on, but lets focus on the things we have in common the most. President-Elect Obama is my President and while I did not vote for him I am proud of him and my countrymen. Does the word countrymen cover the women folk too?
Tomorrow is a new day and we will prevail.
Miss_Piggy
Member
I'll just be quiet for now on and see how things go. Thanks Tom for the interaction.
Didn't mean to offend - just meant to express myself which I think I did more than I should have.
Didn't mean to offend - just meant to express myself which I think I did more than I should have.
Miss_Piggy
Member
Like I said, “from my point of view,” – until the recent political posts I referred to above.Not friendly? :blink: Invite some friends.
We're running a business so to me, the more the merrier - but remember that this is a TSP site and our goal is not to make sure everyone's political views are shared equally. We just want to help each other increase and protect our TSP accounts, be us black, white, male, female, athiest, religious, liberal, conservative, gay, straight, etc. All market returns are earned equally. The rest is just noise.
Of course, you Tom, and the moderators have been responsive and polite.
I was referring to “friendly” in terms of most members, not all by any means, willing to accept diverse points of view.
PS I know you're not saying what I'm talking about is just noise here, right?
Not friendly? :blink: Invite some friends.
The board is open to everyone but perhaps its content (TSP) attracts more of a certain type of individual? Not sure. We're running a business so to me, the more the merrier - but remember that this is a TSP site and our goal is not to make sure everyone's political views are shared equally. We just want to help each other increase and protect our TSP accounts, be us black, white, male, female, athiest, religious, liberal, conservative, gay, straight, etc. All market returns are earned equally. The rest is just noise.
Miss_Piggy
Member
I know exactly where you are going.
But from my very personal point of view: I have been participating on this forum for years. It wasn’t until recently with the political posts that I felt I could express my individual, and yes, controversial views while finding a few members that shared my ideas and thoughts. I began to feel less of a lone wolf. Prior to that, I would have been run off the board because so many members thought differently. I had wanted to continue the political posts so I could continue to express my views without being mocked and finding at the same time others who might feel similar.
I guess I'm saying it hasn't been a very friendly nor diverse board "from my point of view."
Rod
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Rod
Well-known member
Now, did you hear the one about the priest, the rabbi, and the blonde...
Isn't that the one about the blonde giving the bald priest and bald rabbi...
Nevermind...
Show-me
Well-known member
That's it. I've taken all I can stand. I'm so offended that you did not offer a "Amen Brother"
From one Brother to another AMEN!!!
ATCJeff
Well-known member
That's it. I've taken all I can stand. I'm so offended that you did not offer a "Amen Brother"
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