George Soros

[grandma]

Defined by the liberal TV networks, Mr. Sorros is `rich,' `liberal' , and a donator of billions to charity,
and, also to the liberal political party-

(therefore: not guilty nor even capable of mean-spirited physical abuse) ???

http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/2011/20110812032915.aspx

 

[FAB1]

I knew all that. Krud, you mean he's still alive? I wuz hoping that...oh never mind.

 

[Silverbird]

Yet another example of making lots of money does not qualify you for Sage. What worries me is the almost worshipping attitude newscasters take on when talking to the very rich - and that goes for both ends of the media spectrum.

 

[James48843]

"Police investigated the August 2010 incident and concluded that no assault occurred."

Seems to me, that if the police decided there was no assault, it is a pretty fair reach to, a year later, bring it up in the press.

Why would that be?

 

[grandma]

Seems to me, that if the police decided there was no assault, it is a pretty fair reach to, a year later, bring it up in the press. Why would that be?

-don't know, Jim. Take that up with the folks at NBC - (as the first paragraph of the link quotes).
Maybe her lawsuit is getting out of hand? Maybe there is something else coming down the pike?
They obviously felt a need to shore up the guy -
-one of their many talents, shore up with piers of sand and landfill, or ravage the flesh off the bones they have
yet to totally chew up....

That does bring up a question, Jim, that has lurked in my mind for several years: how do the media determine within their first hearing of an incident who or what & why?

..Friday, August 12, 2011 3:24 PM EDT
NBC's Today show on Friday managed to avoid any ideological labels for a story on violence charges against the very liberal George Soros. Instead, reporter Mike Taibbi simply described him as "rich." In contrast, Good Morning America identified Soros as "liberal."

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

...and like Buffet cares about the plight of the poor and middle class in America and criticizes our billionare friendly tax policies. According to American conservatives, that's just horrible (lol).

Well, if they feel they should be paying more in taxes, have them write a check and send it to:
Department of the Treasury
Internal Revenue Service Center
Cincinnati, OH 45999-0007

Make sure they mark it with a Memo to place the funds in the general fund.

I am sure he believes the USG knows how to spend his money better than he does.

As soon as Buffett or Soros start sending their "excess" money to the USG, I will start believing their rhetoric. I do not believe they speak for all "rich" people (POTUS defines this as income >$250k).

The reality is that we need to all be paying the same percent of income taxes and get rid of all the loop-holes, etc. That will make it fair, period.

 

[Warrenlm]

Some CNBC hosts had candid comments about Buffett's piece on taxing the rich. They talked of the ease to donate to the US Treasury. And of course as mentioned above that increased rates won't affect them because of their accountants and lawyers. We're in the process of pulling down the living standard of the "upper middleclass" in order to further raise the living standard of the "lower middleclass" and don't forget the gimmes. The rich will not be affected. Unless the two earner families at $250k taxable income are rich. I know a couple GS14s that are looking at themselves differently now.

I don't see this mentioned above...the new Der Spiegel interview with Soros. http://www.businessinsider.com/geor...-responsibility-for-defending-the-euro-2011-8

 

[grandma]

...
But the "source" of the article is what has me chuckling. MRC is 10 times more right of center than MSNBC is left of center. Using MRC as a news source is like using the National Enquire, or getting your news from the Rush Limbaugh show. Every flashing ad on there is about taking down Obama or Soros. Hillarious.

? ? ?
So, what you are saying is that a quote is only qualified to be quoted if it is published by liberal-approved sources?
You don't seem to be contending it is a miss-quote....

I mention this, because I have not noticed any reticence by a scattered 3 or 4 on this board to post anything they can interpret as a slam on anyone who does not follow their ideology.

 

[clester]

Well, if they feel they should be paying more in taxes, have them write a check and send it to:
Department of the Treasury
Internal Revenue Service Center
Cincinnati, OH 45999-0007

Make sure they mark it with a Memo to place the funds in the general fund.

I am sure he believes the USG knows how to spend his money better than he does.

As soon as Buffett or Soros start sending their "excess" money to the USG, I will start believing their rhetoric. I do not believe they speak for all "rich" people (POTUS defines this as income >$250k).

This is the argument that folks use who don't have a good argument. Let's talk about why he said that.

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

? ? ?
So, what you are saying is that a quote is only qualified to be quoted if it is published by liberal-approved sources?
You don't seem to be contending it is a miss-quote....

I mention this, because I have not noticed any reticence by a scattered 3 or 4 on this board to post anything they can interpret as a slam on anyone who does not follow their ideology.

Is this a good source?
http://money.cnn.com/2011/08/11/pf/tax_increase_rich/index.htm

Not that it makes the entire point, but not everyone is buying the ONLY tax the rich mantra.

This is the argument that folks use who don't have a good argument. Let's talk about why he said that.

I'll get to this, promise, I just don't have time tonight. The why IS important, as much as the fact that he ONLY speaks for himself. "Show me the Money!"

 

[James48843]

http://www.beltwaytalk.com/forum.php would be a good place to discuss this....


Of course, that 28-year old former girlfriend is a pretty interesting gal-

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/loved_he_just_him_then_snapped_bwvvcdLFz7YAv2qLBIleQK

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

According to the story linked by Grandma...He "chocked her" and failed to buy her an apartment. Sounds like it was a minor incident, no one was hurt, authorities looked at it and no charges were filed.

But the "source" of the article is what has me chuckling. MRC is 10 times more right of center than MSNBC is left of center. Using MRC as a news source is like using the National Enquire, or getting your news from the Rush Limbaugh show. Every flashing ad on there is about taking down Obama or Soros. Hillarious.

The article went into complaining about why other media outlets don't disclose Soros's politics as part of the story. What part of the story is that? Soros has never held public office, doesn't officially belong to any political party best of my knowledge. So to align a political label to him would be speculative. It seems that many on the right politically in the US loath Soros because he donates billions of his own fortune with no financial return on his investment, and like Buffet cares about the plight of the poor and middle class in America and criticizes our billionare friendly tax policies. According to American conservatives, that's just horrible (lol).

No financial return on his investment? Are you kidding me? He's made a great deal of money through Petrobras, which received funds from the U.S. government. I think it's interesting that Soros just happened to buy more Petrobras stock right before Obama made a speach about the funding being made available to Petrobras. Soros was and is given inside information from the administration, which he uses to make himself, and the Democrat party money. Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading, but Soros gets a pass. Must be nice to be the owner of the Democrat party.

 

[nnuut]

No financial return on his investment? Are you kidding me? He's made a great deal of money through Petrobras, which received funds from the U.S. government. I think it's interesting that Soros just happened to buy more Petrobras stock right before Obama made a speach about the funding being made available to Petrobras. Soros was and is given inside information from the administration, which he uses to make himself, and the Democrat party money. Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading, but Soros gets a pass. Must be nice to be the owner of the Democrat party.

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[Warrenlm]

That show's motto should be "A lie told often enough becomes the truth",

Can't..already copyrighted by the Democrat Party.

 

[kam]

No financial return on his investment? Are you kidding me? He's made a great deal of money through Petrobras, which received funds from the U.S. government. I think it's interesting that Soros just happened to buy more Petrobras stock right before Obama made a speach about the funding being made available to Petrobras. Soros was and is given inside information from the administration, which he uses to make himself, and the Democrat party money. Martha Stewart went to jail for insider trading, but Soros gets a pass. Must be nice to be the owner of the Democrat party.

Sorry, just not true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/braziloil.asp

It was actually George W. Bush that made that deal and besides, Soros sold of 27 million of his 37 million shares of Petrobras before George Bush signed the deal giving Perobras loan money. This was a Glen Beck story, ugh.

 

[Warrenlm]

I think this topic goes beyond Snopes' normally valuable truth checking of email rumors. For me the tell was the statement that Soros sold most of his shares before the loan funds were transferred, four months after the loan was announced, implying he did not profit from it. I searched for the phrase 'GM Bondholders Threatened With IRS Audit' but apparently Snopes did not take the time to fact check that.

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

Sorry, just not true.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/braziloil.asp

It was actually George W. Bush that made that deal and besides, Soros sold of 27 million of his 37 million shares of Petrobras before George Bush signed the deal giving Perobras loan money. This was a Glen Beck story, ugh.

I never said that Obama brokered a deal that gave petrobras money. I said Soros increased his shares of Petrobras just before Obama announced the loan to Petrobras. Soros then sold those shares four months later, and made a ton of money.

Logically, a company that has two billion dollars in cash suddenly made available to them is more than likely going to increase the value of their stock. Obama tells Soros that he is about to announce the loan and make a speech that says "We (The United States) want to be your best customer." The U.S. is known as a huge consumer of oil, so this is going to send Petrobras stock higher. Soros then buys more Petrobras stock, knowing that the announcement is forthcoming. Four months after the speech, he sells some or all of the stock for a nice capital gain. Soros is then able to keep up his funding of the Democrat party, Media Matters, Moveon.org, etc.

That is what I'm saying. You won't find that in Snopes. Call me a conspiracy theorist if you want, but I think this is more likely the truth than not.

 

[Warrenlm]

... but I think this is more likely the truth than not.

count me +1

 

[commodore]

count me +2

 

[malyla]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/soros-crisis-is-not-over/article2132698/

Soros further argued China will defend the Euro, because it wants a viable alternative currency to the U.S. dollar. As a result, he says, he won’t short the Euro. In fact, he says, that is why the Euro has been so strong relative to the dollar during the European crisis “There is a mysterious buyer that keeps propping up the euro,” he said.