Fort Hood

[James48843]

BREAKING NEWS
NBC News and msnbc.com
updated 2 minutes ago



At least seven people were killed dead and 20 others were wounded in a mass shooting incident Thursday at Fort Hood, Texas, where at least one suspect were believed to be in custody, NBC News and NBC affiliate KCEN-TV reported.

 

[phil]

I just heard. Terrible news. I'm sorry for the victims and their families.

 

[Buster]

Horrific!....Those poor GIs and their families..my heart goes out to them..

The suspect shooter is still alive and was only wounded contrary to earlier reports....Kudo's to FOX News for restraining from mentioning his name until it was confirmed by the Army...other networks were revealing his name from second hand reports..very risky business under these circumstances to be so quick with uncertain information.

 

[James48843]

My research -as bad as it is- (too early to triple cross check all of it) shows the shooter was born in Virginia. He served eight years as an enlisted man in the U.S. Army. He graduated from Virginia Tech, degree in Biochemistry- where he was an ROTC cadet . He went to medical school as part of a graduate program.

He had been assigned 6 years at Walter Reed Army Hospital as the Mental Health Psychiatrist.

Nidal Hasan, M.D., M.P.H.

Fellow, Disaster and Preventive Psychiatry
Department of Psychiatry
F.Edward Hebert School of Medicine
Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences

According to the records, Hasan completed a residency in psychiatry at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington, D.C. in 2007 and additional training in disaster and preventive psychiatry at Uniformed Services University Of the Health Sciences F. Edward Herbert School of Medicine, Bethesda, Md.

Dr. Hasan was educated at the following institutions:


Grad School: Uniformed Services University Of The Health Sciences F. Edward Herbert School Of Medicine - Bethesda MD
Year Completed: 2003

Medical, Osteopathic, or Podiatric Post Grad School
Last Updated 10/13/2009

Psychiatry
WRAMC
Washington, DC USA
Year Residency Completed: 2007

Disaster and Preventive Psychiatry
USUHS/WRAMC
Bethesda, MD USA
Year Fellowship Completed: 2009

Board Certification

Recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties, Bureau of Osteopathic Specialists and Boards of Certification, the American Board of Multiple Specialties in Podiatry, or Council on Podiatric Medical Education.

Last Updated 10/13/2009

Felony Conviction Information
Last Updated 10/13/2009
None Reported

Virginia Board of Medicine Notices and Orders
Verified by Board
No Notices or Orders on file

Actions Taken by States/Organizations Other than the Virginia Board of Medicine
Last Updated 10/13/2009
None Reported

Virginia License Status:
LICENSE # 0101238630
Issue Date: 7/12/2005
Expiration Date: 9/30/2010
Status: Current Active

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Patient's ratings:

CARING DOCTOR

Reviewer: Pvt J. Hammond

Although he was hard to understand (strong accent) this doctor helped me come to terms with my conscientious objector status.While I am still not thrilled about being deployed to Iraq, I at least understand how doing so to protect my fellow soldiers is a good thing.

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Affilited with:
Hospital:
Walter Reed Army Medical Center
6900 Georgia Ave NW, Washington, DC 20307

Northern Virginia Mental Health Institute

National Naval Medical Center - Bethesda
8901 Rockville Pike, Bethesda, MD 20889
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What I am NOT able to confirm:

Some reports say he did extensive work at Walter Reed with the wounded and psychiatric care for the wounded. I saw one report that while he graduated in 2001, another that it was 2003. He got his medical license in 2005, while at Walter Reed- Medical students incur a seven year service obligation- (one year for each year of schooling), and I saw one report that he had hired a lawyer within the last year, trying to get out of the military, but that was unsuccessful, as he recieved deployment orders while trying to file for separation. If the 2001 date is correct, he would have finished his military obligation in 2008 or 2009. However, being on deployment orders would have kept him past his normal service obligation time- however, I can't find anything that verifies or cross checks those reports Not enoughdata points yet to say if any of that is correct. Also read some other reports on his personal life- lived with his brother for a while in Virginia, tried to find a wife unsuccessfully through his friends in Virginia. One report said he filed a complaint while at Walter Reed about coworkers and patients treating him poorly because of his name and ethnic heritage, (He was born in the USA, but said many gave him a very hard time about his name.) Very little of any of that can be confirmed because it's just too hard to cross check any of it. Those are just bits and pieces of quotes picked up from stories of people who know him, or worked with him in the past.

It's still too early to understand what snapped.


Pray for the families of all the victims.

God, help all of them tonight, and in the days ahead. Every single one of them.

 

[Buster]

My research -as bad as it is- (too early to triple cross check all of it) ...


I can't find anything that verifies or cross checks those reports, however. Not enough to say if it's correct. It's still too early to understand what snapped.

That pretty much is what I've been able to find and have heard from the Media (hell of a Resume', but you know what they call a doctor with a 2.1 GPA?....A Doctor)..also it was reported that he was a convert to Islam some time ago and at the last while at Water Reed, he had very low performance appraisals and shortly there after was transferred to Fort Hood.

 

[James48843]

What he was NOT:

He was NOT a "Middle Eastern Muslim Terrorist Jihadist who snuck onto an Army base and opened fire", as was reported on some sites:
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Maj Hasan's cousin Nader Husan said he was happy working for the military but did dread deployment to Iraq.

Mr Hasan said his cousin was a US-born Muslim who had joined the military after high school. He had served as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington DC, which treats many badly wounded troops.

"He was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed dealing with the people coming back and ... trying to help them with their trauma," he said.

He said his cousin had been transferred to Fort Hood in April months ago and was very reluctant to be deployed to Iraq. "We've known over the last five years that was probably his worst nightmare," he said.

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What a terrible day.

 

[McDuck]

That pretty much is what I've been able to find and have heard from the Media (hell of a Resume', but you know what they call a doctor with a 2.1 GPA?....A Doctor)..also it was reported that he was a convert to Islam some time ago and at the last while at Water Reed, he had very low performance appraisals and shortly there after was transferred to Fort Hood.

I also noticed that James didn't post that information. It makes a person question what facts that he leaves off his other posts.

 

[James48843]

I also noticed that James didn't post that information. It makes a person question what facts that he leaves off his other posts.

I didn't "report" that he converted to Islam while at Walter Reed because it's not true. That was only reported on some right-wing blogs, and a cousin of his told the New York Times that the family was always Muslim.

I didn't report that he had "very low performance appraisals there", because there was ONE low apprial, and it was rated low because of his communication skills interacting with his patients- his rater said he was not spending enough time with them.

Any more questions?

 

[phil]

I just hope that none of this creates a backlash against the Muslims. After reading a lot of blogs yesterday, that seems to be the thing on everyone's mind. Let's remember that we're Americans.

 

[Show-me]

At first I was shocked at the name, but I am struggling with the motive for shooting that many Soldiers. There are many ways to avoid going to war. Suicide is one. Refusing to go another, contentious objector. This guy made a conscious effort to kill as many US Soldiers as possible.

He shot 42 people and was not after any single person. He wanted to rack up a big body count for some reason and I struggle that that reason was to avoid going into the theater of war. Last time I checked mental health Doctors are in the rear with the gear.

I'm glad they did not kill him.

 

[Show-me]

Dead men tell no secrets.

 

[Show-me]

My second assumption, because of the high body count, was that the shooter had actual combat experience. Shooting 42 people with multiple GSW's is not a easy task.

 

[Buster]

I didn't "report" that he converted to Islam while at Walter Reed because it's not true. That was only reported on some right-wing blogs, and a cousin of his told the New York Times that the family was always Muslim.

I didn't report that he had "very low performance appraisals there", because there was ONE low apprial, and it was rated low because of his communication skills interacting with his patients- his rater said he was not spending enough time with them.

Any more questions?

Jim, it was not a right-wing blog that reported his Muslim affiliations or Islamic conversion first.. may have been some out there that you like to read, but those are opinions and I don't subscribe to garbage... it was FOX News where I first heard it, early in the afternoon. and they also withheld his name so as to not run up the red flag on Muslim terrorist ties, while other NEWS networks couldn't wait to ...They also did not say that he converted to Islam while at Walter Reed, only to say that he was a CONVERT.

 

[nnuut]

At first I was shocked at the name, but I am struggling with the motive for shooting that many Soldiers. There are many ways to avoid going to war. Suicide is one. Refusing to go another, contentious objector. This guy made a conscious effort to kill as many US Soldiers as possible.

He shot 42 people and was not after any single person. He wanted to rack up a big body count for some reason and I struggle that that reason was to avoid going into the theater of war. Last time I checked mental health Doctors are in the rear with the gear.

I'm glad they did not kill him.

Now we should do to him what Sharia law would, instead of giving him life in a mental institution.:nuts:

 

[Buster]

Now we should do to him what Sharia law would, instead of giving him life in a mental institution.:nuts:

I agree...he needs to meet his 72 virgins....SOON!!!!

 

[nnuut]

I agree...he needs to meet his 72 virgins....SOON!!!!

What would they do to a Christian if he did this over there? I get a chill down my spine just thinking about it! View attachment 7167

 

[Valkyrie]

what are they teaching at virginia tech?
is he an associate of Seung Hui Cho?
are there more VTs out there?

 

[Silverbird]

Ha, no "virgins soon" for someone trying to go out with a bang. That's what he wants. No Martyrdom. He's just a felon. Multiple Life sentences in supermax = gone and forgotten. Of course he will need solitary confinement for his own protection. He's in his 20's, right? That's a long time in purgatory.

BTW, this isn't protest against the war, he signed a contract and got medical training. If he didn't like it, he shouldn't have finished the medical training. This isn't "he got drafted", it's "he wanted the training but later decided he didn't like the bill when it came due." And what was he thinking - Obama never said we were leaving Afganistan, quite the opposite, and it could have been McCain, either way duty waited after training.

 

[James48843]

President Barack Obama ordered the flags at the White House and other federal buildings be at half-staff and urged people not drawn conclusions while authorities investigate.

"We don't know all the answers yet. And I would caution against jumping to conclusions until we have all the facts," Obama said in a statement.

 

[turbo23dog]

Moment of Silence -- at 2:34 p.m. EST -- 6 November 2009

The United States Secretary of Defense (Robert M. Gates) Orders Moment of Silence for Fort Hood Victims

American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, Nov. 6, 2009 - Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates has directed a moment of silence throughout the Defense Department today to honor the victims of yesterday's attack at Fort Hood, Texas.
Twelve people were killed and 30 others were wounded when Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hassan allegedly opened fire in the post's Soldier Family Readiness Center. One of the wounded victims died overnight, bringing the death toll to 13. Malik was wounded and is in custody, Army officials said.

The attack occurred at 1:34 p.m. CST yesterday, and Defense Department personnel around the world will pause and mark the moment of silence at that same time today, Pentagon Press Secretary Geoff Morrell said. For example, those in the U.S. Eastern time zone will observe the moment of silence at 2:34 p.m. local time, while those on the West Coast will observe it at 11:34 a.m.

Gates is at the White House this morning discussing the situation at Fort Hood with President Barack Obama, Morrell said. Army Secretary John McHugh and Army Chief of Staff Gen. George W. Casey Jr. are at Fort Hood conferring with officials there.