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EXN: We own Michelin All Weather which does a great job in the snow for our jaunts up to Flagstaff in the winter. We don't actually own a snow tire living in Phoenix. I wonder if there is anyone on the forum from FARGO.:laugh:

FS
 
FogSailing said:
EXN: We own Michelin All Weather which does a great job in the snow for our jaunts up to Flagstaff in the winter. We don't actually own a snow tire living in Phoenix. I wonder if there is anyone on the forum from FARGO.:laugh:

FS
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my experience has been that it is less the tire and more the driver that determines whether or not you end up in the ditch.

beyond that, 3 simple rules seem to help:
1, replace tires before they are bald,
2, carry an emergency kit in case you end up in the ditch,
3, embrace the variety and change life sometimes presents - especially when you find yourself in a ditch.
 
exnavyew said:
What's a good snow tire? Was leaning toward Nokian WRG3, excellent reviews but too many people said they're noisy on dry pavement.
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burrocrat said:
my experience has been that it is less the tire and more the driver that determines whether or not you end up in the ditch.

beyond that, 3 simple rules seem to help:
1, replace tires before they are bald,
2, carry an emergency kit in case you end up in the ditch,
3, embrace the variety and change life sometimes presents - especially when you find yourself in a ditch.
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FogSailing said:
EXN: We own Michelin All Weather which does a great job in the snow for our jaunts up to Flagstaff in the winter. We don't actually own a snow tire living in Phoenix. I wonder if there is anyone on the forum from FARGO.
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Hi exnavyew. I don’t know where you are located at right now or what your winter driving experiences have been. All snow tires are going to make more noise than all-weather tires.

I also don’t know what your intentions are for winter driving.

I also don’t know what you drive and how you drive. If it is sporty car and you spend a lot of time making extreme maneuvers to get first in the line, good luck under slippery conditions.

Read burro’s rules if you drive in areas less populated. Four wheel or all-wheel drive only allows you to eventually get deeper in to the ditch or snow bank if you believe it enables you to drive as you might normally do under dry conditions.

If you are worried about occasionally driving in snow or ice conditions, FS has good advice. I will add you can buy some “cable snow chains” for traction conditions where you might need them. The best advice I ever heard about chains of any kind was “don’t put them on until you need them to back out of where you got yourself stuck”.

Maybe someone from Fargo or some other northern area like Detroit or Minneapolis or Buffalo will answer. I think burrocrat may know something about driving in the snow and in less populated areas.

All “snow” tires will make more noise on dry roads than other types of tires. Handling will be impacted some. Tire wear too.

Good luck and be safe.

PO
 
Ditto all the above. I drove my former 2wd Honda Civic 10 miles home from work one time at 35mph over a mountain pass with chains on-howling snowstorm had been ongoing all day, no managers in the office to declare admin leave. those of us experiencing the joy were debating sleeping on the tables in the map room rather than chance heading home midafternoon-we declared ourselves free to take annual leave finally, couldn't stand it anymore. I followed colleague who chained up in the parking lot same time I did, I followed his 4wd toyota homeward since he lived near me. we both crawled along happily at 35mph with our chains, passing all kinds of big 4wd pickups and SUVs in the ditch, upside down, sideways, and over the fence, literally on far side of the ditch. lot of snow-driving experience on this forum, me included.
 
Yeah burro. Seen that a lot.

It occurs to me we are making conclusions about exnavyew we have no basis to make. Poor guy asks about snow tires and gets lectures about how to drive in slippery conditions and assumed stupidity about that. We took over the thread.

I apologize exnavyew and to answer your question, I don't know as I haven't bought any snow tires in about 45 years. I have driven vehicles with aggressive cold weather tread tires over the years and yes they make more noise.

I would advise seeking the answers to your simple question elsewhere. Alevin has some good advice, slow and steady and in a group if possible. Sorry, I am giving advice again about driving and not tires. Good luck in your quest.

Regards

PO
 
PessOptimist said:
Yeah burro. Seen that a lot.

It occurs to me we are making conclusions about exnavyew we have no basis to make. Poor guy asks about snow tires and gets lectures about how to drive in slippery conditions and assumed stupidity about that. We took over the thread.

I apologize exnavyew and to answer your question, I don't know as I haven't bought any snow tires in about 45 years. I have driven vehicles with aggressive cold weather tread tires over the years and yes they make more noise.

I would advise seeking the answers to your simple question elsewhere. Alevin has some good advice, slow and steady and in a group if possible. Sorry, I am giving advice again about driving and not tires. Good luck in your quest.

Regards

PO
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with all due respect po, i disagree. the discussion about driving techniques is at least as important as which tires to purchase. as always, when it is time to buy tires you will get the tires the tire shop recommends which are in your price range, possible one slightly more expensive step up the quality chain if the salesman is a good talker or the gal at the counter strategically leans forward in her tank top and eventually snaps her gum to refocus your attention. uhh, yeah, yes ma'am, those ones. also, do not take your wife to a tire shop, too many things can go wrong, they have similar ways to sell tires to the ladies too.
 
exnavyew said:
What's a good snow tire? Was leaning toward Nokian WRG3, excellent reviews but too many people said they're noisy on dry pavement.
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burrocrat said:
with all due respect po, i disagree. the discussion about driving techniques is at least as important as which tires to purchase. as always, when it is time to buy tires you will get the tires the tire shop recommends which are in your price range, possible one slightly more expensive step up the quality chain if the salesman is a good talker or the gal at the counter strategically leans forward in her tank top and eventually snaps her gum to refocus your attention. uhh, yeah, yes ma'am, those ones. also, do not take your wife to a tire shop, too many things can go wrong, they have similar ways to sell tires to the ladies too.
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I agree 100% burro. My point is that we should take our winter driving discussion elsewhere, give back exnavyew’s thread to exnavyew and answer the original question. We don’t know but are not sure you need “snow tires”. Yes, no matter what “snow tires” you buy, they will be noisy on dry pavement.

PO
 
Not sure how the market would react to a FED rate hike in the short term but IMHO once they saw the sky didn't fall I think it would 'normalize' fairly quickly.
Sure would be nice if stock prices were based on company valuations and the economy and not by the central banks of the world's monetary policies.
(i.e. on 'merit' instead of 'manipulation').

FWIW:
[h=1]How a Fed Rate Hike Could Actually Stimulate the U.S. Economy[/h]
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-rate-hike-could-actually-145000093.html
 
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