COPYRIGHT - This Is Serious!

Steadygain

TSP Elite
I hope you don't mind Steadygain, but I am going to slip this email I received into the top post so it is easier for all to see.
Thanks,
Tom
Your site or a user of your site has posted copyrighted articles belonging to Military Times Media Group. Some examples of such unauthorized use can be found at the following urls:

Headline: New TSP options likely
Link: http://tsptalk.com/mb/...... (post deleted)

Military Times Media Group has the exclusive rights to these articles. Please remove all such articles from your website immediately and cease and desist from posting entire articles. Any continued posting or use will be considered willful copyright infringement.

While we object to your lifting of entire articles, you are free to hypertext link to articles on our Web sites so long as you display no more than a headline and/or first paragraph. Our terms of service also prohibit framing and inline linking, in which our content is lifted from our sites and displayed on your site. For more information, see our terms of service at www..... For more information about requesting permission to reproduce and/or distribute our content, please contact .....

Within 24 hours of your receipt of this email, you should reply to this message by confirming that: 1) each and every posting of [Newspaper] material has been taken down and 2) you will not engage in any further unauthorized copying of [Newspaper] materials.

If you do not take the steps outlined above, this matter will be turned over to our attorneys for further action.

Sincerely,
......


Tom,
If you can DELETE all posts I've made - please do. I have made comments they would no doubt find 'offensive'.

TOM - Please DELETE all my stuff - as even though I have never used any related 'articles' I have most certainly expressed 'facts' and made expressions they would not care for.

I don't want this site 'closing down' on my account.

So PLEASE feel free to delete anything and everything from me.

Delete this one too please - I knew this day would have to come as 'Censorship' took control.
 
Re: TOM - THIS IS SERIOUS

Hey, I've never, ever, had anything to do with those guppies - so they can just KMA.
 
Re: TOM - THIS IS SERIOUS

Steady,

I think you are over reacting - they are primarily concerned about how we haven given tribute with respect for the recent war deaths. I don't think they have any legitimate claims of disrespect. They will only sully their own reputations in my opinion.
 
Re: TOM - THIS IS SERIOUS

Thanks, I didn't need much of an excuse to unsubscribe from them. Tom, I have no idea what links I've posted over the years, feel free to delete what's already yours. I know I havn't posted anything in my blog, so please leave that one alone.

I'm guessing you're sure this isn't a hoax being played on you?
 
Re: TOM - THIS IS SERIOUS

It is a pain, but I have been warning about this for a long time. They are going back to old posts, probably using search features. They are mainly concerned with the posting of entire articles, or large portions of them. They don't mind a short excerpt with a link, but there's no way I can go back and check 300,000 posts, so they all have to get deleted.

I just went into the database, did a global delete of any post that had those site's mentioned (assuming they were spelled correctly :)). I don't know the exact extent of the damage because any time the first post in a thread is deleted, the whole thread gets deleted. And if the first post had one of those site's names, then I assume the whole thread talked about it, so that's probably OK. I think it affected about 200-300 posts out of the those 300,000.

By the way Steady, it is not really censorship on their part, it's copyright problems. They don't care what you say, as long as it is not taking the material from their sites,and I see their point. Unfortunately that means I have to censor our readers. It probably means no more links to their sites as my scripts will likely flag and delete the posts. Also Steady, deleting your 6100 posts would do too much damage for many reasons, including it affecting many other posts after yours. As Birchtree suggested, that won't be necessary.

If anyone sees their sites being mentioned, please let me know. Also, if you see articles posted that are more than just a few sentences, please PM me. Thanks for helping!

Here the email I received, and this is the 2nd one:
Your site or a user of your site has posted copyrighted articles belonging to Military Times Media Group. Some examples of such unauthorized use can be found at the following urls:

Headline: New TSP options likely
Link: http://tsptalk.com/mb/...... (post deleted)

Military Times Media Group has the exclusive rights to these articles. Please remove all such articles from your website immediately and cease and desist from posting entire articles. Any continued posting or use will be considered willful copyright infringement.

While we object to your lifting of entire articles, you are free to hypertext link to articles on our Web sites so long as you display no more than a headline and/or first paragraph. Our terms of service also prohibit framing and inline linking, in which our content is lifted from our sites and displayed on your site. For more information, see our terms of service at www..... For more information about requesting permission to reproduce and/or distribute our content, please contact .....

Within 24 hours of your receipt of this email, you should reply to this message by confirming that: 1) each and every posting of [Newspaper] material has been taken down and 2) you will not engage in any further unauthorized copying of [Newspaper] materials.

If you do not take the steps outlined above, this matter will be turned over to our attorneys for further action.

Sincerely,
......
 
Re: Posting Articles and Copyrighted Materials

Sorry to hear Tom that you got all this extra work to do now..Seems that the Military rag has more time on their hands than reporting about training honorable sound minded troops, but to peruse little web chat forums....Pathetic waste of or tax dollar resources, to read forums all day.:mad:
 
Re: COPYRIGHT - THIS IS SERIOUS

Steady,
I think you are over reacting ...

Thanks Birch !!

This is like the only place I can spill my guts and say anything I want to say -- even at the risk of possibly offending a wide variety of very decent and honorable Members and guests.

Now would be the absolute 'worse time' for me to lose that - and all the more I'm very much appreciative for all the interactions we have - even if I'm just reading what others say.

By the way Steady, it is not really censorship on their part, it's copyright problems. They don't care what you say, as long as it is not taking the material from their sites,and I see their point. Unfortunately that means I have to censor our readers. It probably means no more links to their sites as my scripts will likely flag and delete the posts. Also Steady, deleting your 6100 posts would do too much damage for many reasons, including it affecting many other posts after yours.

Copyright stuff - I totally understand Tom - and that's true across the board. All of us 'need' to avoid that.

I'm sorry about my response - as long as it's not 'Big Brother BS' then I'm cool and all the more I very much appreciate you giving us a place to vent our feelings and share our thoughts and stuff.
 
Re: Posting Articles and Copyrighted Materials

Sorry to hear Tom that you got all this extra work to do now..Seems that the Military rag has more time on their hands than reporting about training honorable sound minded troops, but to peruse little web chat forums....Pathetic waste of or tax dollar resources, to read forums all day.:mad:

My feelings exactly --- whoever this cat is -- that posted this.

I think it's the: ok now we're mad and we'll give you 5 minutes to get it done THAT all the more got to me.

Wish there was more I could do to help -- and I'm sorry you have to go through all this. You're the best Tom - you always have been.
 
Re: Posting Articles and Copyrighted Materials

Tom, what was the "exact" post/article they had a "problem" with? What exactly was the infringement here? Did someone just copy and paste an entire article from the military times site? have you PM'd said individual so they know to stop it? Any info would be appreciated. (just curious)
 
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Just so we are clear, the Military Times is NOT a government organization, they are owned by Gannett Co., Inc.
 
Re: Posting Articles and Copyrighted Materials

Tom, what was the "exact" post/article they had a "problem" with? What exactly was the infringement here? Did someone just copy and paste an entire article from the military times site? have you PM'd said individual so they know to stop it? Any info would be appreciated. (just curious)
It was an entire article so I can understand their concern, but it was from about 18 months ago so I had not really pounded the table on this issue yet. They seem to be scanning the site looking for any article, no matter how old. They may find a few more, but I think I have deleted any obvious articles.
 
Re: Posting Articles and Copyrighted Materials

Sorry to hear Tom that you got all this extra work to do now..Seems that the Military rag has more time on their hands than reporting about training honorable sound minded troops, but to peruse little web chat forums....Pathetic waste of or tax dollar resources, to read forums all day.:mad:
Thanks Buster. As much as I roll my eyes when I know I have extra work to do, I do like to play in the database. Writing scripts to find and delete particular posts was close to being fun. :) But the hassle of policing this and possibly getting into trouble is the obvious concern.

As JTH said, it is more likely a private company (as you may know) and I do understand their concern. As a website owner, you don't want people reading your material on another website. Unfortunately for them, this means I will likely have to delete any mention or links to their websites unless I can make the scripts smart enough to see they are just excerpts.
 
Re: COPYRIGHT - THIS IS SERIOUS

Ahh, They aint gonna do nothin! Just delete all posts like you are, start over, and BAN immediately anyone from here on out who clips an "entire" article in a message (that'll learn em) and it will be fine.....
 
Re: Posting Articles and Copyrighted Materials

Thanks Buster. As much as I roll my eyes when I know I have extra work to do, I do like to play in the database. Writing scripts to find and delete particular posts was close to being fun. :) But the hassle of policing this and possibly getting into trouble is the obvious concern.

As JTH said, it is more likely a private company (as you may know) and I do understand their concern. As a website owner, you don't want people reading your material on another website. Unfortunately for them, this means I will likely have to delete any mention or links to their websites unless I can make the scripts smart enough to see they are just excerpts.

So- to search, they must have obtained a membership, yes?
Although I understand their position, it is one more reason to do new membership verification checks with .gov addresses only, and/or change site viewing permissions from public to private.
 
Awww Man... there goes my post count.:p

In all seriousness, Tom has been warning about this FOREVER.

Now, his hands are tied and he has to TCOB.

Let's take care of Tom and TSP Talk, guys & gals.

Hope it wasn't too painful, Tom...
 
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I think that is correct.

Its posted on their web site under the about section. I'd post a link but I'm too pissed at them. I will NEVER buy another one of their papers again. I hold grudges for decades...

Mr. Long, you still suck!
 
Tom,


I for one didn't like their tone in the final line of the email...


"the matter will be turned over to our attorneys"


Nice threats Gannett... I know you can't, but I kinda wish you
would have told them to pound sand. I hope that wasn't their first
email, with the threatening language, instead of just asking you
to comply.

I'm with Birch, they can KMA :cool:
 
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