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McDuck said:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalp...s-she-not-bill-is-the-secretary-of-state.html

James, What do you think about how Mrs. Clinton answered this student's question?
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She should have composed herself better. I'm surprised she didn't say something like: "My husband and I haven't discussed this particular matter, but President Obama and I have and we agree that..."

Maybe, right at that moment, she had a picture in her mind of Billy in an airplane with two beautiful, young, and VERY grateful Asian-American women all to himself for fourteen hours and she just went ballistic!:D
 
Senate reaches deal on $2B 'clunkers' refill

If the Senate approves the additional money, it's likely to lead automakers to increase production and bring back laid-off workers. Many automakers reported low inventories due to increased sales from the program at the end of July. Already Hyundai Motor Co. has added a day of production to its Montgomery, Ala., plant, and Ford is considering increases.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_cash_for_clunkers
 
James48843 said:
Nnuut:

Take a look a few messages up from there-
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=227005&postcount=135

We already said the CNN report is wrong- is not accurate. There is the actual federal register rule - any parts, with the exception of the engine block, and a complete drive train, can be reused-resold. The drive train can be sold only if it is disassembled. But yes, all those parts- the doors, the hood, the seats, the air bags, everything- CAN legally be sold.

the CNN video report is wrong.
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Sorry, I missed that one, "sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees".:embarrest:
 
James48843 said:
Nnuut:

Take a look a few messages up from there-
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=227005&postcount=135

We already said the CNN report is wrong- is not accurate. the CNN video report is wrong.
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That's what happens when you get old...poor guy...
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Nnuut:

Take a look a few messages up from there-
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=227005&postcount=135

We already said the CNN report is wrong- is not accurate. There is the actual federal register rule - any parts, with the exception of the engine block, and a complete drive train, can be reused-resold. The drive train can be sold only if it is disassembled. But yes, all those parts- the doors, the hood, the seats, the air bags, everything- CAN legally be sold.

the CNN video report is wrong.
 
Sending the car to a crusher means to crush the shell. It does not mean that the shell has to go to the crusher with ALL its various parts.

The engine must be destroyed. All removable parts can be removed from the body for recycling. The remaining unibody shell is sent to the crusher.
 
BY the way- more details emerging today:

The Top Ten Cash for Clunkers Trade-Ins:

1. 1998 Ford Explorer

2. 1997 Ford Explorer

3. 1996 Ford Explorer

4. 1999 Ford Explorer

5. Jeep Grand Cherokee

6. Jeep Cherokee

7. 1995 Ford Explorer

8. 1994 Ford Explorer

9. 1997 Ford Windstar

10. 1999 Dodge Caravan
 
Again- who do you believe?

(mcduck, I can't believe I am saying this, but here goes....)

Who are you going to believe?

The media?

Or the actual government published rule?

(There, I said it.)


:-)
 
McDuck said:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/08/03/clunkers.trade.ins/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
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Ah Ha.

CNN's reporter is wrong. There is no rule that says only those parts can be reused.

Here is the rule itself- from http://www.cars.gov/files/TheRule.pdf

As you can see- the rule ONLY requires the engine block not to be reused- and the drive train, unless the drive train is disassembled into parts. If it is, then the drive train could also be reused.


From page 53 of the rule: (Section 599.400 to 403, disposal requirements)

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A disposal facility is free to remove and sell doors, airbags, (both items that the CNN reporter said they could not), as well as any other component of the vehcile traded in. The ONLY exception is the engine block, and complete drive train. The drive train would have to be disassembled into parts to sell the parts. (Transmission, drive shaft, rear end, each could be sold as a seperate unit).

I never said CNN was accurate in their reporting.

Thanks for the reference. We all ought to bombard CNN with the facts, and demand a retraction.

But then it wouldn't be as good a video to stir up opposition to the program, now would it?

CNN never lets facts get in the way of a story, eh?
 
"This proves one thing: If you hand out money on the street corner, people will take it," said James L. Gattuso, a senior fellow in regulatory policy at The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

He warned that while people might be buying cars the gains from their purchases won't overcome the lost economic activity from using the government dollars for more productive programs.


"The money has to be taxed or borrowed. It doesn't come from thin air," Gattuso said. "You aren't going to fix the economy by the government being the consumer and paying for consumption directly."

"Is the government going to be the consumer of last report?" Gattuso added. "I don't think that's a viable economic plan."
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The Cash for Clunkers program was designed to help the struggling auto industry by giving owners of old cars money toward the purchase of a new, more fuel-efficient vehicle. Owners of old cars and trucks can get $3,500 or $4,500 toward a new, more fuel-efficient vehicle in exchange for scrapping their old vehicle.
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Show-me said:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8242391&page=1

I sure the executives appreciate the free money.

;)
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The government (taxpayer) is both the consumer and the seller. Money out of your pocket into treasury, back in your pocket as rebate, back in treasury thru automakers. WE (taxpayers) own GM, people. Do you want it to fail? The bailout has to be repaid. It's the same money being recycled.
 
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