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Viva La Migra said:
Arizona has taken a big step towards forcing the federal government to do something about illegal immigration. The question is, what will the administration do once the locals start enforcing the law? Will they turn away the police officers who try to turn over the people they arrest for being in Arizona illegally? Hope Sheriff Arpaio orders some more tents!:o

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/23/arizona-governor-signs-controversial-immigration/
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From the above link:
Hundreds of protesters gathered at the State Capitol complex Friday calling on Brewer to veto the legislation.
Demonstrators have been camped outside the Capitol since the measure passed out of the Legislature on Monday. Their numbers have grown steadily throughout the week, with buses
 bringing protesters from as far away as Los Angeles.
About a dozen supporters of the measure also gathered.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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I am real curious as to the deportment of the protesters,and how the Big 3 media will project them in the cameras & newsprint.
I am also curious as to who is paying their way; that can't be an inexpensive undertaking: busses from out of state !!
(Even our public schools are curtailing & critiquing which bus trips are necessary!!)
Hopefully, the city will be picking up some extra cash for meals & lodgings - I would suppose they have an `entertainment/hospitality tax' same as my locality !!
 
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This is one of the things the new Arizona law is trying to stop. People die during smuggling events like this. Libs seem okay with that, as long as they get enough voters.:mad:
 
grandma said:
I am real curious as to the deportment of the protesters,and how the Big 3 media will project them in the cameras & newsprint.

Well I hope I express something that truly satisfies your curiousity because I know how things that go unanswered can kind of knawl on you Grandma ~~ and I want you to have the best weekend possible.

The Big 3 Media will do their best to project them in such a way that they merit -- not only being deported ~ but all the more to be taken away in a way that shows the 'Authorities' are NOT laying back and letting a bunch of 'loud mouth losers' --- destroy the peace and violate the decency and integrity of the whole.

So it's good Grandma ~~ cause they'll be projected as renigade trouble makers getting what they deserve. ;)

I am also curious as to who is paying their way;
See that's the GREAT thing about women ~~ they think of so many details that most of us guys just don't take the time to really reflect on.

Ummmmmm -- the money was 'pooled' by the group before hand and all the more pushed them to stand the course.

that can't be an inexpensive undertaking: busses from out of state !!
Well look at the brightside sweet lady :D It will be like a double punishment for setting out to cause trouble.

(Even our public schools are curtailing & critiquing which bus trips are necessary!!)

Hopefully, the city will be picking up some extra cash for meals & lodgings - I would suppose they have an `entertainment/hospitality tax' same as my locality !!
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All the more ~~ the intricate details that make you so wonderful.

That's the best way to look at it. Hey someone's going to reap some good out of this and they deserve whatever they get :) for providing rooms that are safe and comfortable -- providing meals that are tasty and satisfying. Maybe even some recreational activites thown in as well ~~ pool ~~ spa ~ gym.

Well I hope that helped !! Goodnight Grandma
 
The smugglers may just be going about this the wrong way. ( ..not addressing the death traps right now.) The smugglers should get a better clue of the border crossings & states that are empathetic to their goal - and then drive straight to the homes of the Celebrity's, the Politico's, even the student's, and, of course, the establishments of Higher Education; then drop the folks off how many ever at a time, keeping families together. They undoubtedly used all their savings to get a space reserved on the transport.
The originators of the trip could even have provided well prepared papers showing that the Citizens-of-another-country have been specifically invited by whom ever's place they are going to get off the bus at.
This certainly would protect the travelers; they would not have to go into hiding & try to find food, or worse, get tied up with a Gang or Pimps.
One or another of you, I'm sure, could write this up better so it reads as a plan. If you do it well enough, there is always the possibility of getting a Government Grant to fund the maps to the specific homes and the arranging of `those special papers' needed for entry into the estates scattered across the country. Some of them are only seasonal homes, which means there would be room for more of the travelers into one home.
However, there is a warning here, that that would be an injustice to the other good souls who are inviting them!! Each is entitled to the guest they have invited and not be deprived by the homes between them and the border.........
:)
 
Here is a local news link: http://www.azcentral.com/community/...arizona-immigration-bill-protesters-abrk.html

Awww, dont you guys know that everyone here in AZ is a racist bigot? Those supporters with hispanic sounding names are all plants or Tio Taco's. Any news of never ending lines of people trashing property near the border, running shootouts on I-10, drive by shootings at drop houses, property owners being threatened or shot/shot at are fabrications by the vast right wing conspiracy and faux news. Listen to what my congressional representative, Raul Grijalva, is saying. We are bad people, we just hate, hate, hate.

VLM, turn in your badge and resign. Change you name to Viva el Mujado.

Grandma, those people just happened to take a free bus to Phoenix. It was a coincidence. You are way too susspicious.
 
PessOptimist said:
Here is a local news link: http://www.azcentral.com/community/...arizona-immigration-bill-protesters-abrk.html

Awww, dont you guys know that everyone here in AZ is a racist bigot? Those supporters with hispanic sounding names are all plants or Tio Taco's. Any news of never ending lines of people trashing property near the border, running shootouts on I-10, drive by shootings at drop houses, property owners being threatened or shot/shot at are fabrications by the vast right wing conspiracy and faux news. Listen to what my congressional representative, Raul Grijalva, is saying. We are bad people, we just hate, hate, hate.

VLM, turn in your badge and resign. Change you name to Viva el Mujado.

Grandma, those people just happened to take a free bus to Phoenix. It was a coincidence. You are way too susspicious.
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Rodriguez said he expected a lot of illegal immigrants to leave the state, but he didn't expect to move. "I'll just keep going on as normal," Rodriquez said. "I don't want to be afraid."
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I guess the bill is working for Arizona.
 
PessOptimist said:
Grandma, those people just happened to take a free bus to Phoenix. It was a coincidence. You are way too susspicious.
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Golly! I wish we had free buses out here just as part of our local transportation system! Even just one, even just part of any one route!

Gas free, all service stations checked in at free, driver free!!
I don't know if there are toll roads on that route, but if so, that free bus would just run right past that Toll Booth as tho it had a `Toll Freeway' sticker on the windshield!

So free, that there is no indebtedness by one single person, nor group, to
any `untowardly' minded someone else, or group !!

Except that since the bus isn't owned by anyone, that would make it a likely easy target for stealing......
- now, with the bus disappeared, how those protesters gonna get back home to the state they left for the purpose of Agitating??? -
 

Truck driver forced to show birth certificate claims racial-profiling

PHOENIX – A Valley man says he was pulled over Wednesday morning and questioned when he arrived at a weigh station for his commercial vehicle along Val Vista and the 202 freeway.

Abdon, who did not want to use his last name, says he provided several key pieces of information but what he provided apparently was not what was needed.

He tells 3TV, “I don't think it's correct, if I have to take my birth certificate with me all the time.”

3TV caught up with Abdon after he was released from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement office in central Phoenix. He and his wife, Jackie, are still upset about what happened to him.

Jackie tells 3TV, “It's still something awful to be targeted. I can't even imagine what he felt, people watching like he was some type of criminal.”

Abdon was told he did not have enough paperwork on him when he pulled into a weigh station to have his commercial truck checked. He provided his commercial driver’s license and a social security number but ended up handcuffed.

An agent called his wife and she had to leave work to drive home and grab other documents like his birth certificate.
Jackie explains, “I have his social security card as well and mine. He's legit. It's the first time it's ever happened.”

Both were born in the United States and say they are now both infuriated that keeping important documents safely at home is no longer an option.

http://www.azfamily.com/video/featu...ed-to-provide-birth-certificate-91769419.html​
 
Lookie who is throwing around the Nazi Swastika's and inciting sedition.:worried:

They look violent and may hurt us or our property.
 
I am sorry this young man was treated as an illegal, even with the type of documents other US citizen truckers would normally carry. Hopefully, that couple will join the fight, then, to keep the trucker smugglers out of the country, to keep the drug runners out, and to be involved in educating their community of fellow citizens about responsibility toward the laws of this country.
My impression of the country of Mexico has long been one of lawlessness & toleration of it. Coming into the USA for safety would give one the impression of wanting to be law abiding. The long list of peoples from several nations waiting to be accepted legally shows there are those who Really do desire to be a total part of our communities.
Why would they, then, blame the law officials for the actions & behavior of the illegal alien from their former country? Why aren't they refusing aid to those who would crowd to the front of the line, who would give the hard-workers (ex: the truckers) a very bad name & be suspected of participating in illegal activities somewhere along the line?
This law that is being criminalized by the media - is it not mostly already on the books? Isn't this what I've been reading here on 'talk, that why was the state making a law where there was already a federal law? Obviously, because now the lawmen of that state feel they have some `down-home' backing and can enforce it; not be another Border Patrol employee who gets the shaft by his Federal Superiors.
Again, I am sorry that this trucker had such an experience. And I regret the over-zealousness of the tenders of the weight station. I also regret the deaths of Border Patrol men, the death of the Texas rancher who was a gentle quiet man, not even protecting his own land from the destruction caused by those trampling his land. I regret that teachers in the small schools along the border fear for their lives & those of the students because of threats received from the worst of those entering the US illegally.
And, I also regret that, seemingly, the legal citizens of this USA who are of a south of our border heritage don't feel gratitude toward God that they were born here, or that they made it through the long wait line for legal entry, whether they have completed the citizenry classes/testing yet or not. I think my greatest sadness, thought, comes from a seemingly fact, they still consider themselves as a `they', that they, seemingly, have not
joined together to counter the illegal impression, to separate themselves from those who flaunt the law. And lastly, what a great impression on the children, the youth, if these would stand For the law....the law in place when the illegals invaded.
P.S. Anyone of us could have been born in Romania, in China, in Russia; but God placed us here. For that I am grateful.
 
Why do so many hispanic heritage individuals carry Mexican flags in these protests? Did the Irish carry flags of Ireland? Did the Norwegian immigrants carry flags of Norway?
 
Illegal immigration is a big problem all over the world, agreeably it is difficult to enforce the law of the land without CHECKING PEOPLES STATUS. If some of you have a better way of controlling this invasion of our country I'm sure any suggestions would be seriously considered, how else? Racial Profiling for Christ sake who are we looking for in Arizona illegal immigrants from Germany? I wish I knew the answer.:cool:
 
nnuut said:
Illegal immigration is a big problem all over the world, for Christ sake who are we looking for in Arizona illegal immigrants from Germany? I wish I knew the answer.:cool:
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No, that then would be Nazism:D
 
Spanish parliament approves controversial immigration law
Spain's lower house of parliament has approved a controversial law that allows illegal immigrants to be held in detention centres for 60 days before being deported.

http://www.expatica.com/es/news/spa...oves-controversial-immigration-law_57691.html

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As for regulation of entry and residence, the LOE (and the follow-up post-1986 regulation) introduced the requirements of an entry visa as well as residence and work permits. This meant that the entry of foreigners was now subject to regulation (basically at border posts) while their access to the labour market was conditioned by the country’s economic conditions. Furthermore, the situation of foreigners in Spain was restricted by short-residence permits and the non-recognition of the right of family regrouping. While legal migrants had some of their rights restricted and others recognised, illegal migrants were given the bottom-line treatment of detention and expulsion. As a lawyer interviewed by Suárez Navaz (1997: 7) observed at the time, ‘[…] those immigrants [illegal immigrants] do not have a single right in Spain. The law anticipates any circumstance. Basically, the message is that if you are “illegal”, the state has only one responsibility: to deport you.'
Nonetheless, the tightening on the conditions of legality and illegality had its limits in Spain. These limits were imposed, initially, by rule of law and, more specifically, by the courts. The dubious constitutionality of the LOE gave rise to complaints being filed by early immigrants’ associations, different NGOs and Lawyers’ Colleges. They asked the ombudsman to intervene by lodging an appeal based on the unconstitutionality of the articles that affected the right of meeting and association, the internment prior to deportation and the legal prohibition against judges suspending the expulsion orders. As Aja (2006: 23) points out, the ensuing Constitutional Court (1987) ruling meant not only the suppression of these clauses but also the start of a progressive recognition of rights that the Constitution appeared to reserve exclusively for Spaniards. [more]
http://www.migrationeducation.org/48.0.html
 
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