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G-7 hints at possible concerted Yen manipulation.

This article suggests the manipulation might start when the USD/YEN falls below 90. It's currently at 93. That is only 4% away. The effects of this manipulation will cause a rally in the markets, but it will be short lived. How long the rally will last I don't know. Reality of the global recession will eventually set in, and back down the market goes.

G-7 Warns on Yen's Gain; Japan Ready to Take Action (Update2)

By Keiko Ujikane and Jason Clenfield

Oct. 27 (Bloomberg) -- The Group of Seven industrialized nations expressed concern about ``excessive gains'' by the yen after Japan's currency soared to a 13-year high against the dollar.

The G-7 made an unscheduled statement after a request from Japan, Finance Minister Shoichi Nakagawa said, adding that his government was ready to act if needed. The G-7 fell short of pledging concerted action to halt the yen's advance. Separately, Prime Minister Taro Aso said he'd draft measures to help counter the financial crisis.

Japan's Nikkei 225 Stock Average has plummeted 33 percent this month as the soaring yen erodes earnings of exporters such as Sony Corp. The yen has gained as the risk of a global recession and an extended slump in the world's stock markets prompted investors to sell assets bought by borrowing in Japan, where interest rates are the lowest among industrial nations.

``The Japanese authorities must have thought it was important to address this as a shared G-7 concern,'' said Tomoko Fujii, head of economics and strategy at Bank of America Corp. in Tokyo. ``Otherwise the markets would think this is a Japan- specific problem that would make any unilateral'' selling of the yen by Japan less effective.

The yen traded at 94.12 per dollar as of 1:40 p.m. in Tokyo compared with 93.80 shortly before Nakagawa read out the G-7 statement.

The yen last week rose to a 13-year high against the dollar, while currencies of Canada, Australia, the United Kingdom and New Zealand sank by more than 5 percent.

Global Recession
``Many market participants are forced to liquidate their positions,'' said Fujii. ``It's unwanted liquidations because of risk reduction and hedge-fund redemptions and dollar shortages.''
Sony, the world's second-largest consumer electronics maker, last week cut its full-year profit forecast by 38 percent because of the stronger yen.

The proposals Japan's government is considering include a resumption of state purchases of shares owned by Japan's banks, said Hakuo Yanagisawa, a ruling Liberal Democratic Party lawmaker charged with dealing with the financial crisis. The decline in the stock market has eroded the value of shares banks hold as part of their capital.

Bank Stocks Tumble
Japanese banks tumbled on the Tokyo Stock Exchange today after media reports said they may seek to raise extra capital to offset unrealized losses on shareholdings. Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc. and Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group Inc. sank more than 10 percent.

``We reaffirm our shared interest in a strong and stable international financial system,'' the G-7 statement said. ``We are concerned about the recent excessive volatility in the exchange rate of the yen and its possible adverse implications for economic and financial stability. We continue to monitor markets closely, and cooperate as appropriate.''

The ``unusual'' statement indicates policy makers are one step closer to international currency intervention, said Takahide Kiuchi, chief economist at Nomura Securities Co. in Tokyo. ``If the yen appreciates below 90 yen, that may trigger a move.''


Japan hasn't sold its currency since March 2004 when the yen was trading at 103.42 against the dollar. The Bank of Japan, acting on behalf of the Ministry of Finance, sold 14.8 trillion yen ($157 billion) in the first three months of 2004, after record sales of 20.4 trillion yen in 2003.

To contact the reporter on this story: Keiko Ujikane in Tokyo at kujikane@bloomberg.net Jason Clenfield in Tokyo at jclenfield@bloomberg.net
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aJR1ZV06icPE&refer=home
 
Right now I am just bargain shopping. Picking up 82 shares of C-Fund a pay period. I suspect they may be cheaper by the end of the week coming in at 'blue light' special prices.

Geaux
 
Right now I am just bargain shopping. Picking up 82 shares of C-Fund a pay period. I suspect they may be cheaper by the end of the week coming in at 'blue light' special prices.

Geaux

New Alert ! They past Blue Light Special Pricing weeks ago. If they drop
any lower, they'll be at Yard Sale Prices and thats when people will Buy.
(Hopefully) :confused:
 

It was an American water heater. This particular line has a faulty thermocouple, that is left hand thread. Can't find the part anywhere and American water heater don't answer there phones.

Further web searches showed a class action lawsuit against American water heater. To add insult to injury, it end a few months ago.:mad:
 
It was an American water heater. This particular line has a faulty thermocouple, that is left hand thread. Can't find the part anywhere and American water heater don't answer there phones.

Further web searches showed a class action lawsuit against American water heater. To add insult to injury, it end a few months ago.:mad:

Geez, that is insult to injury. I had made a comment about tankless water heaters in my previous post , but the technology had by passed my knowledge, thus making making my recommendation ignorant. :laugh:

GL
CB
 
Hmmm....I 'm seeing something strange. While the market is selling, the USD/YEN continues to make higher highs. We might be seeing the currency intervention the IMF hinted at last night, or it's a bullish divergence and we're about to see a rally, starting in Japan tonight?
 
Hmmm....I 'm seeing something strange. While the market is selling, the USD/YEN continues to make higher highs. We might be seeing the currency intervention the IMF hinted at last night, or it's a bullish divergence and we're about to see a rally, starting in Japan tonight?
Carry gone, yen should've dropped to 90. Dollar keeps going up....yen seems uneffected and it is really starting to tick me off. The chart should read 107+ to the dollar, interest rates have made this market.:mad:
 
Carry gone, yen should've dropped to 90. Dollar keeps going up....yen seems uneffected and it is really starting to tick me off. The chart should read 107+ to the dollar, interest rates have made this market.:mad:

We're you playing the USD/YEN to go to 107?
 
We're you playing the USD/YEN to go to 107?
No way,

I have longs in at 97 from last week that fortuantely pay the carry but I need to see them grow. Hedged out with some shorts at 95 and covered the longs fairly well.

I have a couple of longs in at 93.5 but I'll probably have to hedge them out as well.

The 800 pip drop in to hours last week was brutal but I can't believe that the Yen is keeping it's value. The dollar is up almost 5% since then but I'll be a monkey's uncle, the yen held its own. The GBP/Yen lost 4000 pips Thursday.

Played the DCA card on the way down. My wife is asking me if I'll ever come to bed again!:blink:
 
Played the DCA card on the way down. My wife is asking me if I'll ever come to bed again!:blink:

Well, want you have to do there is go to bed and take care of business first, then you can stay up all night trading the Yen. Once she's satisfied, she won't care whether you're trading the Krona or the Kiwi?;):D

As for the Yen, the IMF and the BOJ have already hinted that they will intervene at around USD/YEN 90. It might work and it might not. If doesn't work, we'll be seeing mushroom clouds.:worried:
 
Well, want you have to do there is go to bed and take care of business first, then you can stay up all night trading the Yen. Once she's satisfied, she won't care whether you're trading the Krona or the Kiwi?;):D

As for the Yen, the IMF and the BOJ have already hinted that they will intervene at around USD/YEN 90. It might work and it might not. If doesn't work, we'll be seeing mushroom clouds.:worried:

They keep threatening, I hope they wait, I can get into some serious stop loss and hedge that puppy either way. I'm only looking at .5% a night based on positions. I don't try the millionaire movements,,,,,yet!!

Keep the lot sizes down and you can have fun!:cool:
 
I wonder if Hank will come on CNBC tell America that the taxpayers might make money on this deal.:rolleyes:

Treasury working on aid for GM, Chrysler merger


By Karey Wutkowski Karey Wutkowski – 2 hrs 52 mins ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The U.S. government is considering direct financial assistance to facilitate a possible merger between General Motors Corp (GM.N) and Chrysler LLC, a private sector source familiar with Treasury discussions told Reuters on Monday.

The Treasury Department is weighing aid of at least $5 billion, which could include capital injections and government purchases of bad auto loans, according to the source, a financial policy executive who spoke anonymously because the discussions are private.

Emergency financing, at least initially, most likely would be focused on GM and Chrysler and not Ford Motor Co (F.N), which is struggling but still better off financially than its U.S. rivals, the source said.

A Treasury decision could come this week, the source said.
Separately, the Wall Street Journal reported the Energy Department is working to release $5 billion in loans to GM to help it finance the merger. The money, according to the report citing a person familiar with the matter, would come from $25 billion in financing approved by Congress last month to help domestic manufacturers make more fuel efficient cars.

An Energy Department spokeswoman said it would be "premature to estimate" a timetable for approving loans. Detroit and its allies in Congress have been pressuring the Bush administration to expedite the money, which regulators have said may not be available for six to 18 months.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said officials the Treasury, Energy, and Commerce departments have been in contact with automakers about help -- emphasizing the loan program for fuel efficient cars and the potential for Treasury to buy up bad car loans to spur new lending and jump-start sales.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081027/bs_nm/us_financial_gm
 
So, let me get this straight. Now our elected leaders want to use your and my tax dollars to purchase BAD car loans out from under PRIVATE companies that made these loans to people who they probably knew couldn't afford them? Which, I would assume, will never be fully paid off so we, the taxpayers, will probably never see the principle let alone any interest from these purchased loans?

Can this whole situation get any more insane or anti-capitalist???:mad: What's next? I don't even want to speculate what else is coming.

Let them all suffer for their (corporation and private individual) greed and ignorance/stupidity.:mad:

To quote a line from the movie Tommy Boy: "... America's in a state of renewal, we've gotta have the strength to tie a few factories to a tree and bash 'em with a shovel."

Lord, help us.....
 
Bailing out insurance companies is next. On the news this morning...tapping into the $700B. I thought they came up with that figure as the maximum necessary to stabilize the BANKS. It was an "up to" number...
 
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