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Re: <1%IFT Option

squalebear-- I did the <1%IFT trick!

Balances before the IFT:

6.94% F ----->7%
5.68% C----->6%
2.11% S----->3%
2.06% I----->3%
83.21%G---->81%

Not a big deal, but it is interesting nonetheless...

Steve

The "trick" is still in the timing and not in the method. You say, "No Big Deal",
but I beg to differ with you. You took 2.21% (maybe even more) out
of the (G) Fund and bought shares with it at a cheaper price. Don't
tell anyone :nuts: but your not suppose to be able to do that ! :D
Good Luck !
 
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but your not suppose to be able to do that ! :D

Yep! That's part of what makes it interesting :).

Like you have said, it is just a little thing to keep you from being TOTALLY trapped in the (G)arage!

Steve
 
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The "trick" is still in the timing and not in the method. You say, "No Big Deal",
but I beg to differ with you. You took 2.21% (maybe even more) out
of the (G) Fund and bought shares with it at a cheaper price. Don't
tell anyone :nuts: but your not suppose to be able to do that ! :D
Good Luck !


SB, On 2/19 I was 18.18%,10.02%,31.30%,29.41% and 11.08% GFCSI and on the 20th I did a <1% that took the GFCSI to 15,11,32,30 and 12%. That would be a 2.82% out of the G fund.

Mathmatically speaking you could reduce one fund as much as 3.96% by using the <1% option. All four funds would have to end in a .01, not likely but it could happen.
 
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Yep! That's part of what makes it interesting :).

Like you have said, it is just a little thing to keep you from being TOTALLY trapped in the (G)arage!

Steve

True enough Steve. But I have to remember that some of our Retired
members look at this as a pretty big deal and a way to possibly beat
the (G) returns. Many will only take out 4% from there accounts, but
to beat that, the (G) is not the answer. ;)
 
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On March 25th and 26th the TSP gained a combined average of +3.69%.
I bailed 100% to the (G) Fund March 24th and by the end of the 26th, I
was was regreting the move because I'm down right "Greedy". I called
the move on a previous post "making the wrong move for all the right
reasons". It took a friend to remind me that we had plenty of days left
in the month which could make me look like a guru. Well, I'll be the first
to say I'm no Guru. With that said, after Friday and Today's losses, it
looks as if I avoided a combined average loss of -2.42% since I bailed.

So whats the point of this post ? Is it to gloat and tell everyone how good
I am ? Hell No ! With two more trading days left in the month, this post
could easily be rendered fraudulent if I started to pound my chest and
proclaim the insight necessary to make such a move based on investment
savvy. Instead, I use the facts stated above to gain perspective.

Sometimes, we will make a decision that appears right and ends wrong.
Sometimes, we will make a decision that appears wrong and ends right.
Sometimes we'll get Lucky and sometimes we won't. The battle is to
take "Luck" out of the equation and be more right then wrong. If one is
successful in that battle, the War can be won. My war is to beat the Risk
Funds by years end. It's not to beat the (G) or the (F) Funds. So I take
risks to do just that. Even when I'm down for the year, I can look at the
YTD figures and feel a sense of accomplishment, for now. No one wishes
to be down YTD, but the Market will eventually turn towards the Bull.
When that happens, beating the Risk Funds will mean that much more in
the way of profits. ;)


(Just opening up my thoughts and spewing them on the table, hope your not eating)
 
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SB, I think it was genius not GURU.:D

May we all learn to be less greedy. Time to pay the piper for my pittance (I use that word literally):laugh:
 
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SB, I think it was genius not GURU.:D

May we all learn to be less greedy. Time to pay the piper for my pittance (I use that word literally):laugh:

The truth shall set me free, I forgot how to spell "Genius" and didn't have the time to go back and reference the post ! (LoL). :nuts: Boy an I getting old ! ;)
 
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Well if I would have been smart I would have jumped back into the G fund back on the 23rd and saved myself about $2432.00. :sick: Granted the last two days the market soured and I my account dropped 3.75%. But by using the <1% option (the last two days) I used the G fund to purchase more shares in the CS&I funds. So I was able to use a higher priced fund to purchase shares in the lower priced funds. I decreased the G by 176.574 shares but increased C 122.3264, S 82.199 and I 17.2792. :toung: Does the increase in shares balance the drop of 3.75%? Only time will tell. :D
 
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Tomorrow ends the "Bitter Bondage" (Movie Reference) many of us share
by being locked into the (G) Fund. Since I don't utilize the <1%IFT
method to jump "INTO" the market, I will not be tracking it on a daily
basis until I lower my risk levels to <1%IFT Percentages. Those levels
tend to be 5% or less. I'll announce this when it happens. ;)
 
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I don't know what the afternoon will hold, but the 800 Resistance Level
in the S&P500 has been strong. It might take a few days to bust through
it, if not today ! ;)
 
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To Whom This May Concern,

Welcome to April and the New Quarter.;)

We all have 2 unrestricted IFT's from now until the end of the month
and i couldn't help but think of all the possible strategies one might be
using while in this most unpredictable market. But that my friends, is
up to you.

When it comes time to make the decision as to whether you want to
Bail out of the Market, one might consider this little method of mine.
If that time comes and you decide to use the <1%IFT method, I want
you to consider the following;

#1) Although you only need one Risk Fund to do a <1%IFT, if you start
with only one, your stuck with only one until you utilize your Future
Contribution Allocations to add new money from your paycheck back
into a different fund.

#2) I tend to utilize 3 (C,S,I) or 4 (F) of the Risk Funds for diversification
purposes. Just as it's documented by the experts, a well balance portfolio
will help ease the agony of a down day. But it also lowers possible gains
on a up day. Should I feel stonger about Bonds I can reduce my stock
holdings and possibly boost my Bond holdings. But I will never reduce my
holdings below 1% unless I've given up on that fund and submit that fund
to the (G)arage.

#3) My first move might be considered extremely aggressive, but It's my
Second Move which is most important to the <1%IFT Levels I may want
before the month is through. This is evident in my March IFT's which can
be seen on the AutoTracker. But for those who don't have access, here's
the moves I made in March;

1st = 0-0-0-0-100
2nd= 50-10-5-10-25
3rd = 92-4-2-1-1
4th = 89-4-3-2-2
5th = 93-4-1-1-1
6th = 93-4-1-1-1 (rebalance)
7th = 89-5-2-2-2
8th = 100-0-0-0-0

Please take note that my 2nd move, although above my <1%IFT Levels, it
gave me the diversification I seek. This can be done at <1%IFT Levels as
well, but the point is this----> Your second move MUST include what ever
funds you want available for your eventual <1%IFT goals. On my 3rd move
I officially announced that I reached my <1%IFT Levels and started my
attempt to beat the (G) until I pulled the plug and bailed back to the (G)
Fund on my 8th move.

#4) There will always come a time when you will end up at a crossroad.
The (G) Fund does NOT lose money. This method CAN lose money. There's
no shame in accepting defeat at these levels. If the market hits the skids
and it becomes highly unlikely that you'll beat the (G) Fund, then by all
means, Jump Out before you suffer weeks of (G) Fund loses. March gave
me +0.4951% over and above the (G) Fund returns for the same 9 trading
day period,,,,OR,,,,10.68054 weeks of (G) Fund Returns. That gave me a
whole month that I could sit in the (G) and still be ahead. My goals are
not lofty. Even though I was playing with their money (casino reference)
I try to always remember that "Pigs Get Slaughtered".

#5) Last but not least, please remember that sometimes, the right move
is NOT making any move at all. Look ahead at all the data thats coming
out and STILL do your homework. You just might allow your percentages
to go above a whole number and gain the ability to boost that fund up
by nearly 0.99% in a few days. Sometimes the Market will not want you
to do that by getting really ugly. But this is something I weigh out before
making a move.

#6) Making a <1%IFT on the same day as your Future Contributions are
kicking in is still a mystery to me just yet. I haven't done one and don't
know which takes priority over the other. So, I avoid doing so for now.

MAY WE ALL SEE A GREAT AND PROFITABLE APRIL ! MARCH WASN'T ENOUGH ! ;)
 
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If I had your percentages today AND felt tomorrow held a rebound,
I would have done a Boost <1%IFT up to: 89%-4%-4%-3%. But
if I believed the market was going down alot more then just today,
I would have dropped my percentages down to 1%. If I was wrong
and the market went up tomorrow, I knew that on Wednesday I
could boost them back up to 2%. Food For Thought.
If I had your percentages today AND felt tomorrow held a rebound,
I would have done a Boost <1%IFT up to: 89%-4%-4%-3%. But
if I believed the market was going down alot more then just today,
I would have dropped my percentages down to 1%. If I was wrong
and the market went up tomorrow, I knew that on Wednesday I
could boost them back up to 2%. Food For Thought.
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I feel so stupid now
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. I don't know what I was thinking
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. I have two chances to better myself before I try <1% again.

Thanks for all the info.
 
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I feel so stupid now
icon11.gif
. I don't know what I
was thinking
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. I have two chances to better myself before I try <1%
again. Thanks for all the info.

Waaaay too tough on yourself ! April TSP'ers bring IFT'ers ! (ok, sounds dumb):embarrest:
We have plenty of time to make a buck ! The glorious reality is, mistakes
at these percentage levels don't hurt nearly as bad as the high percentage
levels. Good Luck in April ! ;)
 
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squalebear you inspire me with all of your hard work and i love reading your posts, but my head hurts still trying to figure out all of this <1% stuff haha, will someone please message me the noob link of how to understand this thing? i have read and read and read and i guess i need <1% for dummies or something.

please please please! :D:D:D
 
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squalebear you inspire me with all of your hard work and i love reading your posts, but my head hurts still trying to figure out all of this <1% stuff haha, will someone please message me the noob link of how to understand this thing? i have read and read and read and i guess i need <1% for dummies or something. please please please!

I will try to explain it better, but my location prohibits me from doing so
now. We will place you on rookie status until I am confident you have
what it takes to be a True Jedi (Nasa:Star Wars Reference). May the force
be with me ! :nuts:
 
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SB, as a junior Jedi I will try to help. Hope you don't mind.:)

Medic let's make an assumption that you have made your 2 IFTs for the month on the 10th (any given month you wish) but you had the foresight to follow SB's example and your allocation COB on the 10th was 85G, 5C, 5S and 5I. Now on the 11th the market went up a little and at COB on the 11th your actual allocation at COB based on C/S/I going up is 84.5G, 5.2C/5.1S/5.2I (you have to look on the TSP website the morning on the 12th at your account balance to see the your account allocations on the 11th closing). The market went up so your overall allocation changed due to the change in dollar value of your shares in C/S/I and your .02% G increase.

Now you have 3 choices. You can:

1) Let it ride and do nothing (not wanting to risk more if the market turns).
2) If you think the market is going to go down you can take some off the table by going to a lower percentage and capture some profits for example 90G/4S/3C/3I (or 100G if you want) or you can just go back to the original allocation of 85G/5C/5S/5I. Or anywhere in between. You are moving shares from C/S/I to G when you do this.
3) If you think the market will go up you can INCREASE your allocation by going 82G/6C/6S/6I and buy more shares.

Every morning you can look at your actual share allocations and either round up or down based on what you think the market will do to the next nearest whole percent every day as long as your total allocation equals 100%. You can make or lose money.

There is a lot of stategy that can be implemented in this to help beat the G. Think about it and ask questions if you still don't understand. A similar strategy can be implemented in a downtrend market to DCA into it, however I prefer to go 100G in that circumstance.

Hope this helps, JB45
 
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