VP Debate Thread

News flash! Those who support Palin think Palin won the debate. Those who support Biden believe he won. Read all about it! :D
 
My fiscal conservative husband was fustrated that he could not make heads or tails out of some of Palin's answers, because he doesn't know anything about Alaskan politics, oil revenues, etc. I knew in general what she was referring to, thanks to watching oil (*nod to Nnut for his help in this.*) and renewable energy/energy security issues, but not everyone watches that. I wonder how many others were in that boat?
 
No one I've talked to or have listened to on the news has brought up Biden's comment about being in the political eye for 30 years and NEVER changed. Isn't the democratic platform all about change? Just thought it was funny. GO RON PAUL!!!!!!!!!!
 
Steadygain said:
Sarah (bless her heart) ... is not thoroughly DITTZY
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When I was growing up, the common phrase that was used if you couldn't figure out something nice to say about someone was, "bless his/her heart."

I agree with Steady. Sarah Palin, bless her heart, remembered the sound bites she had been prepped with for most of the topics that were presented to her. She might be ready for the national stage in four years for the next election.

Joe Biden was articulate and spoke to the issues, he remembered most of the time that he needs to take care not to sound condescending, and he didn't jam his foot too far down his throat.

There wasn't a clear-cut, no question about it winner that everyone will agree with. I think Biden won, but that's because he's who I was hoping would do better. If someone was hoping that Palin would win, then she probably did in their eyes.

Lady
 
Joe addressed the questions specifically - was concise and expressed himself in a very clear manner that demonstated not only a thorough knowledge of the subject matter; but equally transmitted an understanding of how to correct it. Listening to him you heard a message with distinct thoughts and could easily follow what he was projecting.

When challenged - or specific allegations were directed against him - he bought that back and gave incredibly accurate details that not only verifed his true stand (but equally important - as far as what would be considered a TRUE DEBATE) was very much the winner.

Sarah (bless her heart) who brought me to watch the debate carried herself very well - especially considering her circumstances. She sounded like a strong woman who could hold her ground and was able to clearly acknowledge how she was able to stand against the huge powerful Oil Corporations and 'put her State First'.

So for her the GOAL of showing she is not thoroughly DITTZY was accomplished. Her message, however, was much harder to follow because she was so wound up. Clearly 'when she DID NOT KNOW how to deal with a question (or all the more a challenge) she would circle back to ENERGY and say the same thing over and over.

I was also a bit disappointed in her "hailing of the Maverick" and almost obsession with 'McCain thinks, believes, wants..." because I wanted HER VIEWS - HER THOUGHTS - HER HEART AND MIND not his.

She did her very best when she brought her distinct beliefs to light. She stressed her view of marriage...that she had her own views...and that McCain was open to hearing her views (even if they differed from him).

From a purely objective point of view - having no attachment to either one - I believe Joe was the winner. From strictly a Republican Party point of view I believe Sarah was 'a winner' in that people now know she IS NOT a blundering ditz - airhead. She is solid.
 
If the debates actually mattered, then people would be applying the following idiotic logic to their votes:

"Well, I don't agree with ____'s policy on energy, but he's a fine debater. So he's got my vote!"
 
nnuut said:
Palin Won, I watched the WHOLE thing. I wouldn't vote for Biden to be Vicerooster of my Chicken Pen!:laugh:
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We must have watched a different debate then. There is no way that Palin won by the traditional debate metrics--things like substantive answers, actually answering the questions et al. If anything, the only way that Palin 'won' is by not imploding (again) but that is hardly winning the debate.
 
Palin Won, I watched the WHOLE thing. I wouldn't vote for Biden to be Vicerooster of my Chicken Pen!:laugh:false teeth.gif
 
I LOVE Palin Bingo.

Printed out all four cards- my wife and I sat down during the debate and played.

It was great.
 


Well I guess the Republican party got CENTCOM to dig up and send General MClellan to Afghanistan (that may explain why General McCllean didn't say anything about the surge ;)) or she got the name of the General wrong.
Hope that's it's the latter cuz somebody needs to put their foot down on the Republicans digging up Lincoln.

For a moment it was touch and go if she'd run out of 3 x 5 cards before her hour was up.


She didn't implode so I guess that's a victory. :laugh:

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Lincoln & McClellan
 
fabijo said:
I'm surprised to see Palin holding her own, especially after seeing some of those other interviews.
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I didn't see the katy thing. But Harry Smith was just trying hit on the head with questions. He never let her finish answer before he was asking another one.
 
Its clear what Palin's strategy going into this was--rehearse 2 or 3 blocks of line and always keep on the script. She's not answering the questions that are even slightly off those tracks. Early in the debate the question was about Pakistan. Palin's response was solely about Energy policy, huh?

Shes talking much better than her Curic interview, but she's not debating at all.

Anyone won Palin Bingo yet?
 
I'm surprised to see Palin holding her own, especially after seeing some of those other interviews.

But they're both just going with the system. Sure, they'll debate how to handle "issues," but whether the issues really exist are not debated. An assumption is being made with most of those debate questions. It is those assumptions that will guide America. It doesn't matter who is in office, since they all agree that the "issues" are the real issues.
 
I'm impressed with her due to the fact that Bidden has much more experience debating and dealing with public speaking and she is holding her own and getting in some good dig on the old guy.
 
I do agree Palin is holding her own, but in general I'm impressed with Palin as a woman just not as a VP candidate.
 
Hi, I couldn’t resist to come back on the board. Though at this early stage I don’t have any profound thoughts – if ever.

Well I don’t agree with you Buster, but that’s nothing new – lol

I’m watching on CNN and they have this graph that shows the male and female opinions of the Ohio uncommitted voters from second to second as each of the candidates speak.
It seems so far male opinions are higher for Palin and female opinions are more in favor of Biden.

Now do you think that is a result of the obvious common denominator (if I'm expressing myself correctly)?
 
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