userque & NUGT/DUST

[userque]

IMAGE: Note: I don't make trading decisions with this. Old school T/A price projection:
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Old School revisited:

 

[userque]

SIGNAL: DUST

04-19-16 ENTERED DUST AT 01.87
04-06-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 59.15---04-19-16 EXITED NUGT AT 90.00 MAJOR upgrade, 4 winning trades in a row
03-30-16 ENTERED DUST AT 03.14---04-06-16 EXITED DUST AT 03.16 MAJOR upgrade
03-28-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 54.25---03-30-16 EXITED NUGT AT 60.38
03-21-16 ENTERED DUST AT 03.19---03-28-16 EXITED DUST AT 03.60
03-18-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 67.65---03-21-16 EXITED NUGT AT 65.20 optimized, fixed 1 bug
03-15-16 ENTERED DUST AT 03.83---03-18-16 EXITED DUST AT 03.08 minor system update, fixed 2 bugs
03-14-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 54.37---03-15-16 EXITED NUGT AT 56.80
03-11-16 ENTERED DUST AT 03.61---03-14-16 EXITED DUST AT 04.04 major system update
02-29-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 58.25---03-11-16 EXITED NUGT AT 61.59
02-24-16 ENTERED DUST AT 04.51---02-29-16 EXITED DUST AT 04.22
02-04-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 36.78---02-24-16 EXITED NUGT AT 55.95 major system update
02-02-16 ENTERED DUST AT 13.05---02-04-16 EXITED DUST AT 08.77
01-26-16 ENTERED TNA  AT 44.93---01-27-16 EXITED TNA  AT 44.85
01-25-16 ENTERED TZA  AT 61.15---01-26-16 EXITED TZA  AT 60.51
01-20-16 ENTERED TNA  AT 42.98---01-25-16 EXITED TNA  AT 44.79

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DISCLAIMER: Userque's trading signals are not affiliated with TSP Talk or Buy Low Sell High, Inc. The information is for educational purposes only! The information is not advice or recommendations. The information may be revised at anytime. Userque does not give investment advice. Do not act on this data. Do not buy, sell or trade any stocks, ETF's, indices, funds, or any other instruments/vehicles based on this information. Userque may trade differently than discussed or posted in this forum.

 

[konakathy]

WOW, Q! You did great on the NUGT trade. Good job. Looks like your labor of love is panning out for you. Thanks for the updates...I do keep tabs on this thread.:smile:

 

[userque]

SIGNAL: NUGT

04-20-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 84.00
04-19-16 ENTERED DUST AT 01.87---04-20-16 EXITED DUST AT 02.01 5 wins in a row
04-06-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 59.15---04-19-16 EXITED NUGT AT 90.00 MAJOR upgrade, 4 winning trades in a row
03-30-16 ENTERED DUST AT 03.14---04-06-16 EXITED DUST AT 03.16 MAJOR upgrade
03-28-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 54.25---03-30-16 EXITED NUGT AT 60.38
03-21-16 ENTERED DUST AT 03.19---03-28-16 EXITED DUST AT 03.60
03-18-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 67.65---03-21-16 EXITED NUGT AT 65.20 optimized, fixed 1 bug
03-15-16 ENTERED DUST AT 03.83---03-18-16 EXITED DUST AT 03.08 minor system update, fixed 2 bugs
03-14-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 54.37---03-15-16 EXITED NUGT AT 56.80
03-11-16 ENTERED DUST AT 03.61---03-14-16 EXITED DUST AT 04.04 major system update
02-29-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 58.25---03-11-16 EXITED NUGT AT 61.59
02-24-16 ENTERED DUST AT 04.51---02-29-16 EXITED DUST AT 04.22
02-04-16 ENTERED NUGT AT 36.78---02-24-16 EXITED NUGT AT 55.95 major system update
02-02-16 ENTERED DUST AT 13.05---02-04-16 EXITED DUST AT 08.77
01-26-16 ENTERED TNA  AT 44.93---01-27-16 EXITED TNA  AT 44.85
01-25-16 ENTERED TZA  AT 61.15---01-26-16 EXITED TZA  AT 60.51
01-20-16 ENTERED TNA  AT 42.98---01-25-16 EXITED TNA  AT 44.79

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DISCLAIMER: Userque's trading signals are not affiliated with TSP Talk or Buy Low Sell High, Inc. The information is for educational purposes only! The information is not advice or recommendations. The information may be revised at anytime. Userque does not give investment advice. Do not act on this data. Do not buy, sell or trade any stocks, ETF's, indices, funds, or any other instruments/vehicles based on this information. Userque may trade differently than discussed or posted in this forum.

 

[tctang75]

Five in a row! Huaah!!! Huzzah!!!

 

[userque]

IMAGE: Algo likes NUGT here (GDX:22.84)!?

 

[userque]

My system doesn't trade splits any differently, but someone brought this to my attention yesterday. Thought I'd pass it on.

DUST is reverse splitting 1 for 10, May 18, 2016.

Direxion Announces Reverse Splits of Two Leveraged ETFs | Direxion

 

[tsptalk]

Just a reminder why buying and holding NUGT or DUST is a bad idea and should only be traded...

1-year returns: NUGT -23%, DUST -87%.

I have tried for a long time to find shares of these to short, but they're never available. If you can short them both, you're golden.

 

[burrocrat]

does anybody know when the actual real time trades of the best trading system in the world will be available for real time documented actual trades become available to begin a historical tracking of the system's actual performance with out back edits and stuff? because it takes time in the market to actually make something real?

pick a system, trade it real time, over time, and show actual performance would be my advice.

ah hell, what do i know?

 

[userque]

does anybody know when the actual real time trades of the best trading system in the world will be available for real time documented actual trades become available to begin a historical tracking of the system's actual performance with out back edits and stuff? because it takes time in the market to actually make something real?

pick a system, trade it real time, over time, and show actual performance would be my advice.

ah hell, what do i know?

Generally, everyone is free to believe or not. That doesn't concern me.

That said, and for the sake of responding:

The trades occur near close. A few here receive the signals hours in advance, and have been for a while.

There. That's as good as it gets for free. If anyone thinks my "circa close" trade reports are far and away from the "circa closing" actual price; point them out.

I believe what I'm doing is much more than most do with regard to posting their trades. I also believe it is clear that the fills are not edited. If it is not, then there's not much more I can do for you. Everyone is free to believe, or not.

 

[burrocrat]

Generally, everyone is free to believe or not. That doesn't concern me.

That said, and for the sake of responding:

The trades occur near close. A few here receive the signals hours in advance, and have been for a while.

There. That's as good as it gets for free. If anyone thinks my "circa close" trade reports are far and away from the "circa closing" actual price; point them out.

I believe what I'm doing is much more than most do with regard to posting their trades. I also believe it is clear that the fills are not edited. If it is not, then there's not much more I can do for you. Everyone is free to believe, or not.

si papi. but how do the actual real time public trades perform? is this a premie thread? how does one get access to the secret squirrel stuff? them premie systems tend to be run by jerkwads who denigrate publically those who post publically but then hold their cards a bit close to the chest? i have stood up for some against those odds, but then they tend to turn on you for a dollar.

if there ain't a picture it didn't happen.

 

[userque]

si papi. but how do the actual real time public trades perform? is this a premie thread? how does one get access to the secret squirrel stuff? them premie systems tend to be run by jerkwads who denigrate publically those who post publically but then hold their cards a bit close to the chest? i have stood up for some against those odds, but then they tend to turn on you for a dollar.

if there ain't a picture it didn't happen.

Lol...Ask me again once you sober up.:alcoholic:

 

[Steiner]

I typically try to keep a low profile but in this case I can confirm what Q has been doing. I have been entering everyone of his calls since June 4, 2015. I enter them very shortly after he makes the call so my spreadsheet reflects his original moves. I haven't seen him go back and change any of them but will admit I don't check that closely. With all that said, I can tell you he has averaged .55% daily return since the start. There have been some wild swings in there and if you can't stomach big losses then I would say look elsewhere. I will crawl back under my rock now.

 

[userque]

I typically try to keep a low profile but in this case I can confirm what Q has been doing. I have been entering everyone of his calls since June 4, 2015. I enter them very shortly after he makes the call so my spreadsheet reflects his original moves. I haven't seen him go back and change any of them but will admit I don't check that closely. With all that said, I can tell you he has averaged .55% daily return since the start. There have been some wild swings in there and if you can't stomach big losses then I would say look elsewhere. I will crawl back under my rock now.

Thanks Steiner, I'd like to add that the 0.55% you suggest includes previous, inferior algos.

Anyway,

I believe the posts are rooted in something unrelated to NUGT/DUST/Trading.

I got this. I'd hate for you to get hurt if things start to heat up 'round here.

 

[burrocrat]

all good hollywood. real time sequential public posts are key to credibility. thanks for setting me straight. i look forward to following contemporaneous ground-truthed documentation of this system.

now go make us some money, sugar pants.

 

[userque]

all good hollywood. real time sequential public posts are key to credibility. thanks for setting me straight. i look forward to following contemporaneous ground-truthed documentation of this system.

now go make us some money, sugar pants.

I will continue to provide the signals to the few via PM's. However, I will now add a 'burro' delay to the publicly posted signals of at least a couple of hours.

 

[userque]

Just a reminder why buying and holding NUGT or DUST is a bad idea and should only be traded...

1-year returns: NUGT -23%, DUST -87%.

I have tried for a long time to find shares of these to short, but they're never available. If you can short them both, you're golden.

This explains it nicely:

The leveraged ETF problem illustrated
The leveraged ETF problem illustrated - optionMONSTER (08/14/09)

 

[userque]

This explains it nicely:

The leveraged ETF problem illustrated
The leveraged ETF problem illustrated - optionMONSTER (08/14/09)

But, there's also this:

The Long Term Behaviour of Leveraged ETFs
Double-Digit Numerics - Articles - The Big Myth about Leveraged ETFs

"There is a big myth about leveraged ETFs that has been recently propagated in the media. This article corrects the myth and explains the faulty reasoning that gave rise to it.

The myth is:

Leveraged ETFs are not suitable for long term buy and hold

This myth is expressed in various ways. Some quotes from the internet about leveraged ETFs:

“unsuitable for buy-and-hold investing,” “leveraged ETFs are bound to deteriorate,” “over time the compounding will kill,” “leveraged ETFs verge on insanity,” “levered ETFs are toxic,” “levered ETFs [are] a horrible idea,” “…practically guarantees losses,” “in the long run [investors] are almost sure to lose money,” “anyone holding these funds for the long term is an uneducated lame-brain.” “Warning: Leveraged and Inverse ETFs Kill Portfolios.”

There is even an article comparing these ETFs to swine flu.

These claims are not backed up with mathematics and data. This article rectifies that deficiency and finds that the claims are false. ..."

 

[tsptalk]

Whether it's compounding math or the fees, they suck as investments.

Just for some more fun... Since inception in late 2010...

Amazing. The management should probably be investigated if it's the fees.

 

[userque]

True. I feel that way about most "investment stocks." Trade everything!

Whether it's compounding math or the fees, they suck as investments.

Just for some more fun... Since inception in late 2010...

Amazing. The management should probably be investigated if it's the fees.