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The Flu Vaccine Exposed
- Thread starter Intrepid_Timer
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Show-me
Well-known member
Did they ever find any side effects from that crap? Vaccine A and B I mean.
Frixxxx
Moderator
Wait, you mean that series of Anthrax vaccinations I get are worthless?
P.S. Buster, I know what Pure alcohol is, but what is the test to ensure BS is Pure?:laugh:
Buster
Well-known member
So since Small pox and Rabies and other viral infections are treated by similar and produce vaccines..according to these ridiculous reports, one shouldn't get these vaccines either if bitten by a rabid dog or cat..Right?
Please, this stuff is pure BS!!!
I would think that Louis Pasteur is rolling over in grave about now..
Please, this stuff is pure BS!!!
I would think that Louis Pasteur is rolling over in grave about now..
Valkyrie
Well-known member
Leaked UN report claims swine flu could "kill millions" and cause "anarchy" in poor nations <http://www.naturalnews.com/027070_medicine_vaccines_anti-viral.html>
(NaturalNews) A UN report leaked to The Observer claims that swine flu could "kill millions" of people in poor nations and cause a total breakdown of society unless wealthy nations come up with US$1.5 billion to pay for pandemic vaccines and anti...
http://www.naturalnews.com/027055_swine_flu_vaccines_swine_flu_vaccine.html
Lie #3 - Vaccines protect you from swine flu
This is the biggest lie of all, and the media pushes it hard. Getting a vaccine, they insist, will protect you from the swine flu. But it's just flat-out false. Even if the vaccine produces antibodies, that's not the same thing as real-world immunity from a live virus, especially if the virus mutates (as they often do).
As I pointed out in a recent article, statistically speaking the average American is 40 times more likely to be struck by lightning than to have their life saved by a swine flu vaccine. http://www.naturalnews.com/026955_swine_flu_vaccines_flu_vaccines.html
Lie #4 - Vaccines are safe
The MSM also doesn't want you to know what's in the vaccines. Some vaccines are made from viral fragments grown in diseased African monkeys. If that sounds incredible, read the true story here: http://www.naturalnews.com/026779_swine_flu_patents_vaccines.html
(NaturalNews) A UN report leaked to The Observer claims that swine flu could "kill millions" of people in poor nations and cause a total breakdown of society unless wealthy nations come up with US$1.5 billion to pay for pandemic vaccines and anti...
http://www.naturalnews.com/027055_swine_flu_vaccines_swine_flu_vaccine.html
Lie #3 - Vaccines protect you from swine flu
This is the biggest lie of all, and the media pushes it hard. Getting a vaccine, they insist, will protect you from the swine flu. But it's just flat-out false. Even if the vaccine produces antibodies, that's not the same thing as real-world immunity from a live virus, especially if the virus mutates (as they often do).
As I pointed out in a recent article, statistically speaking the average American is 40 times more likely to be struck by lightning than to have their life saved by a swine flu vaccine. http://www.naturalnews.com/026955_swine_flu_vaccines_flu_vaccines.html
Lie #4 - Vaccines are safe
The MSM also doesn't want you to know what's in the vaccines. Some vaccines are made from viral fragments grown in diseased African monkeys. If that sounds incredible, read the true story here: http://www.naturalnews.com/026779_swine_flu_patents_vaccines.html
coolhand
Well-known member
Thanks for those posts. Some people are much more susceptible to the side effects to shots, drugs, etc. than others and must be much more vigilant in assessing risk when deciding to take something.
About 5 years ago I became allergic to insect stings without knowing it. On numerous occasions I had been stung by fire ants with only the typical reaction of localized swelling and itching, but 5 years ago I got stung by just one of those little critters and went into anaphylactic shock about 5 minutes later. Had no idea at the time what was happening to me, but had to tell my daughter to call 911 as I knew I was in some sort of serious trouble. The EMT didn't believe the ant had anything to do with what happened, and neither did the Doctor at the emergency room. They did not realize that this particular ant was in fact part of the wasp family.
It wasn't until 6 months later when it happened again that I put 2+2 together. Up until that time my family Doctor tried to convince me I had some kind of cardiac episode.
So my body had changed over time and the Doctor gave me epinephrine to keep with me in case of emergency.
People have allergic reactions to all sorts of things from peanut butter to fragrances and feathers. To mandate shots by law is at a minimum problematic. But even there it would depend on the true risk to the public and not some media and politically driven hype campaign.
Valkyrie
Well-known member
The drugs approved as safe by the Food and Drug Administration are now killing 100,000 Americans a year.
http://www.naturalnews.com/019608.html
The journal Nature has published studies showing that 70 percent of the drug decision panels run in this country are rigged with decision-makers who have strong financial ties to the very drug companies whose products are affected by these decisions.
http://www.naturalnews.com/019608.html
The journal Nature has published studies showing that 70 percent of the drug decision panels run in this country are rigged with decision-makers who have strong financial ties to the very drug companies whose products are affected by these decisions.
Valkyrie
Well-known member
CBC News in Canada is now reporting disturbing findings you need to know about: "Four Canadian studies involved about 2,000 people, health officials told CBC News. Researchers found people who had received the seasonal flu vaccine in the past were more likely to get sick with the H1N1 virus."
http://www.naturalnews.com/027102_vaccines_H1N1_flu_shot.html
What this information reveals is further evidence that flu shots damage or weaken your immune system, making you more susceptible to subsequent infections. Flu shots don't even work to reduce your risk of getting the flu that they're targeting! Most people who get the flu are the very same people who routinely receive flu shots.
do your research and learn how the body works. The immune system is not designed to work from injections. The only safe way is the nasal spray, however the best way is proper nutrition, learn how the food system in the USA has been poisioned which will make one sick/er over time, but wait they have antedotes for u at the doctors office for the poisons.
http://www.naturalnews.com/027102_vaccines_H1N1_flu_shot.html
What this information reveals is further evidence that flu shots damage or weaken your immune system, making you more susceptible to subsequent infections. Flu shots don't even work to reduce your risk of getting the flu that they're targeting! Most people who get the flu are the very same people who routinely receive flu shots.
do your research and learn how the body works. The immune system is not designed to work from injections. The only safe way is the nasal spray, however the best way is proper nutrition, learn how the food system in the USA has been poisioned which will make one sick/er over time, but wait they have antedotes for u at the doctors office for the poisons.
Intrepid_Timer
Well-known member
Buster
Well-known member
the fda doesn't think we should be drinking raw cow's milk either. What's your point?
Hence: HOMOGENIZED
Intrepid_Timer
Well-known member
The FDA doesn't think we should be drinking raw cow's milk either. What's your point?
Viva_La_Migra
Well-known member
If you're near a Public Health Service office, they'll more than likely give you one as a federal employee. I normally get the seasonal one from our office here every year. I don't know whether they'll have the H1N1 shot though.
Show-me
Well-known member
Well I for one will get a flu shot, don't know about the pig flu one yet. I don't normally get the flu shot because the last couple I got, those were the years I got the flu really bad. Don't know it is a correlation but I will test the theory again this year. My real reason for getting it is my current health, which isn't bad if you take out the cancer thing. My wife and sons have minor asthma.
The big one is the pneumonia vaccine! I feel we should all get that one. I had pneumonia once after one of my surgeries. OMG!!! It really hurts bad!
The big one is the pneumonia vaccine! I feel we should all get that one. I had pneumonia once after one of my surgeries. OMG!!! It really hurts bad!
James48843
Well-known member
The writer of the anti-flu shot article is one Dr. Joseph Mercola.
You can read about him, and the two warning letters previously sent to him by the FDA, for making illegal claims about his products, here, on "Quackwatch.org".
http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html
P.S.- I am looking forward to getting this year's flu shots- both the seasonal one, and the H1N1, if I can find someone to get it from.
You can read about him, and the two warning letters previously sent to him by the FDA, for making illegal claims about his products, here, on "Quackwatch.org".
http://www.quackwatch.org/11Ind/mercola.html
P.S.- I am looking forward to getting this year's flu shots- both the seasonal one, and the H1N1, if I can find someone to get it from.
Buster
Well-known member
And now for the rational side of getting a flu shot..besides the cost of flu symptom remedies...This little straight forward, unbiased, non gloom and doom factual facts exert should be read too..
Is the vaccine safe?
Yes. The flu vaccine is safe. There are very few side effects. If you got the flu shot, your arm may be sore for a few days . You may have a fever, feel tired or have sore muscles for a short time. If you got the nasal-spray vaccine, you may have a runny nose, headache, cough or sore throat.
What is influenza?
Influenza (also called "the flu") is a viral infection in the nose, throat and lungs. About 10% to 20% of Americans get the flu each year. Some people can get very sick from the flu. Each year, about 200,000 people go to a hospital with the flu, and 36,000 people die because of the flu and complications.
The flu may cause fever, cough, sore throat, a runny or stuffy nose, headache, muscle aches and tiredness. Most people feel better after 1 or 2 weeks, but for some people, the flu leads to serious diseases, such as pneumonia. The influenza vaccine (the flu shot) can help protect you from getting the flu.
Who is at higher risk?
Some people have a higher risk of flu complications, like pneumonia. If you are in any of these groups, you should get the flu vaccine every year:
How can I avoid getting the flu?
The best way to avoid getting the flu is to get the influenza vaccine. You should get the vaccine when it becomes available each fall (in October or November), but you can also get it any time throughout the flu season (into December, January and beyond). The vaccine is available by shot or by nasal spray. The vaccines work by exposing your immune system to the flu virus. Your body will build up antibodies to the virus to protect you from getting the flu. The flu shot contains dead viruses. The nasal-spray vaccine contains live but weakened viruses. You cannot get the flu from the flu shot or the nasal-spray vaccine.
You can also reduce your risk of catching the flu by washing your hands frequently, which stops the spread of germs. Eating healthy, exercising and getting enough sleep also play a part in preventing the flu because they help boost your immune system.
If you are sick, make sure that you cover your mouth when you cough and wash your hands often to prevent giving the flu to others.
Some people who get the vaccine will still get the flu, but they will usually get a milder case than people who aren't vaccinated. The vaccine is especially recommended for people who are more likely to get really sick from flu-related complications.
Is there anyone who shouldn't get the flu shot?
Yes. The following people should talk to their doctor before getting the flu shot:
If I get the flu vaccine, can I still get the flu?
Yes. Even with a flu vaccine, you aren't 100% protected. Each year, the flu vaccine contains 3 different strains (kinds) of the virus. The strains chosen are those that scientists believe are most likely to show up in the United States that year. If the choice is right, the vaccine is 70% to 90% effective in preventing the flu in healthy adults. If you're older than 65, the vaccine is less likely to prevent the flu. Even if you get the flu after being vaccinated, your flu symptoms should be milder than if you didn't get the vaccine. You'll also be less likely to get complications from the flu.
A note about vaccines
Sometimes the amount of a certain vaccine cannot keep up with the number of people who need it. More info...
What are antiviral flu drugs?
Antiviral flu drugs are prescription medicines that can be used to help prevent and/or treat the flu. There are four antiviral flu drugs: amantadine (one brand name: Symmetrel), oseltamivir (brand name: Tamiflu), rimantadine (brand name: Flumadine) and zanamavir (brand name: Relenza). All 4 of these antiviral drugs have been approved to treat the flu. If you take one of these drugs within 2 days of getting sick, it can lessen your symptoms, decrease the amount of time you are sick and make you less contagious to other people. However, most healthy people who have the flu get better without using an antiviral flu drug. Your doctor will decide whether one of these medicines is right for you.
Three of the antiviral flu drugs have also been approved to prevent the flu. These drugs are not a substitute for the influenza vaccine. They are most often used for flu prevention in institutions where people at high risk for flu complications are in close contact with each other, such as nursing homes or hospitals. For example, during a flu outbreak in a nursing home, residents and staff might be given the flu vaccine and an antiviral drug to prevent the flu until the vaccine takes effect.
Where can I learn more about the flu vaccine?
For more information, you can call the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Immunization Information Hotline at these numbers:
1-800-232-2522 (English)
1-800-232-0233 (Spanish)
Healthy Living
Source
Written by familydoctor.org editorial staff.
Lowering the Age for Routine Influenza Vaccination to 50 Years: AAFP Leads the Nation in Influenza Vaccine Policy by RK Zimmerman, M.D., M.P.H. (American Family Physician November 1, 1999, http://www.aafp.org/afp/991101ap/2061.html)
Reviewed/Updated: 04/09
Created: 09/00
Is the vaccine safe?
Yes. The flu vaccine is safe. There are very few side effects. If you got the flu shot, your arm may be sore for a few days . You may have a fever, feel tired or have sore muscles for a short time. If you got the nasal-spray vaccine, you may have a runny nose, headache, cough or sore throat.
What is influenza?
Influenza (also called "the flu") is a viral infection in the nose, throat and lungs. About 10% to 20% of Americans get the flu each year. Some people can get very sick from the flu. Each year, about 200,000 people go to a hospital with the flu, and 36,000 people die because of the flu and complications.
The flu may cause fever, cough, sore throat, a runny or stuffy nose, headache, muscle aches and tiredness. Most people feel better after 1 or 2 weeks, but for some people, the flu leads to serious diseases, such as pneumonia. The influenza vaccine (the flu shot) can help protect you from getting the flu.
Who is at higher risk?
Some people have a higher risk of flu complications, like pneumonia. If you are in any of these groups, you should get the flu vaccine every year:
- All children aged 6 months up to 19 years
- All adults aged 50 years and older
- All women who are or will be pregnant during the flu season
- People who are living in nursing homes or long-term care facilities
- Individuals who have long-term health problems
- Health care workers who have direct contact with patients
- Caregivers and household contacts of children less than 6 months of age
How can I avoid getting the flu?
The best way to avoid getting the flu is to get the influenza vaccine. You should get the vaccine when it becomes available each fall (in October or November), but you can also get it any time throughout the flu season (into December, January and beyond). The vaccine is available by shot or by nasal spray. The vaccines work by exposing your immune system to the flu virus. Your body will build up antibodies to the virus to protect you from getting the flu. The flu shot contains dead viruses. The nasal-spray vaccine contains live but weakened viruses. You cannot get the flu from the flu shot or the nasal-spray vaccine.
You can also reduce your risk of catching the flu by washing your hands frequently, which stops the spread of germs. Eating healthy, exercising and getting enough sleep also play a part in preventing the flu because they help boost your immune system.
If you are sick, make sure that you cover your mouth when you cough and wash your hands often to prevent giving the flu to others.
Some people who get the vaccine will still get the flu, but they will usually get a milder case than people who aren't vaccinated. The vaccine is especially recommended for people who are more likely to get really sick from flu-related complications.
Is there anyone who shouldn't get the flu shot?
Yes. The following people should talk to their doctor before getting the flu shot:
- People who have had an allergic reaction to a flu shot in the past
- People with an allergy to eggs
- People who previously developed Guillain-Barré Syndrome (a reversible reaction that causes partial or complete loss of movement of muscles, weakness or a tingling sensation in the body) within 6 weeks of getting a flu shot
- Children less than 6 months of age
- People who have a moderate or severe illness with a fever should wait until they feel better before receiving the flu shot
If I get the flu vaccine, can I still get the flu?
Yes. Even with a flu vaccine, you aren't 100% protected. Each year, the flu vaccine contains 3 different strains (kinds) of the virus. The strains chosen are those that scientists believe are most likely to show up in the United States that year. If the choice is right, the vaccine is 70% to 90% effective in preventing the flu in healthy adults. If you're older than 65, the vaccine is less likely to prevent the flu. Even if you get the flu after being vaccinated, your flu symptoms should be milder than if you didn't get the vaccine. You'll also be less likely to get complications from the flu.
A note about vaccines
Sometimes the amount of a certain vaccine cannot keep up with the number of people who need it. More info...
What are antiviral flu drugs?
Antiviral flu drugs are prescription medicines that can be used to help prevent and/or treat the flu. There are four antiviral flu drugs: amantadine (one brand name: Symmetrel), oseltamivir (brand name: Tamiflu), rimantadine (brand name: Flumadine) and zanamavir (brand name: Relenza). All 4 of these antiviral drugs have been approved to treat the flu. If you take one of these drugs within 2 days of getting sick, it can lessen your symptoms, decrease the amount of time you are sick and make you less contagious to other people. However, most healthy people who have the flu get better without using an antiviral flu drug. Your doctor will decide whether one of these medicines is right for you.
Three of the antiviral flu drugs have also been approved to prevent the flu. These drugs are not a substitute for the influenza vaccine. They are most often used for flu prevention in institutions where people at high risk for flu complications are in close contact with each other, such as nursing homes or hospitals. For example, during a flu outbreak in a nursing home, residents and staff might be given the flu vaccine and an antiviral drug to prevent the flu until the vaccine takes effect.
Where can I learn more about the flu vaccine?
For more information, you can call the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's National Immunization Information Hotline at these numbers:
1-800-232-2522 (English)
1-800-232-0233 (Spanish)
Healthy Living
- Childhood Vaccines
- Chickenpox Vaccine
- Pneumococcal Vaccine
- Smallpox Vaccine
- Polio Vaccine
- Vaccine Shortages
Source
Written by familydoctor.org editorial staff.
Lowering the Age for Routine Influenza Vaccination to 50 Years: AAFP Leads the Nation in Influenza Vaccine Policy by RK Zimmerman, M.D., M.P.H. (American Family Physician November 1, 1999, http://www.aafp.org/afp/991101ap/2061.html)
Reviewed/Updated: 04/09
Created: 09/00
Buster
Well-known member
Delilah had a runny nose,
that made her cough and sneeze.
It was quite red and sniffley,
because of allergies.
Day and night her nose would run.
It caused her such disgrace.
Until one day her runny nose,
just ran right off her face.
It leaped into her lap and then
it hopped onto the floor.
Delilah watched her own nose make
a bee-line for the door.
It’s been a while and time has passed,
since her nose was set free.
Delilah doesn’t mind at all,
There’s no more allergy!
--------------------------------------
God blessed Texas with his own hand,
so goes the rumor.
I'm so glad to be a Longhorn fan,
and not an Oklahoma Sooner!!!
(Just made that one up...........)
Intrepid_Timer
Well-known member
Delilah had a runny nose,
that made her cough and sneeze.
It was quite red and sniffley,
because of allergies.
Day and night her nose would run.
It caused her such disgrace.
Until one day her runny nose,
just ran right off her face.
It leaped into her lap and then
it hopped onto the floor.
Delilah watched her own nose make
a bee-line for the door.
It’s been a while and time has passed,
since her nose was set free.
Delilah doesn’t mind at all,
There’s no more allergy!
--------------------------------------
God blessed Texas with his own hand,
so goes the rumor.
I'm so glad to be a Longhorn fan,
and not an Oklahoma Sooner!!!
(Just made that one up...........)
Buster
Well-known member
You obviously didn't read my article before you inserted your rebuttal. Cost? Who the heck cares about cost? I care about my health not cost........
I believe this is a really good unbiased article: http://ezinearticles.com/?Are-Flu-Shots-Bad-or-The-Ultimate-Flu-Buster?&id=281622
Here is an exert :
"Many people are concerned about the safety of flu shots, bad reactions to them or just the number of chemicals that they contain. Doctors, researchers and scientists have linked flu shots to autism, Alzheimer’s and Guillain-Barre syndrome. Suspicions concerning the relationship between flu shots and the onset of chronic fatigue syndrome have been raised. Are flu shots bad? Some people think so."
Now be gone Sooner fan!!!!!!!!
Hook em Horns!!!!!!!!!!
See you in Dallas next week my Friend...And you better not have a runny nose..
Intrepid_Timer
Well-known member
Sorry..I should have prefaced my COMMENT with; “IMO based on a credible Medical institution....This article you posted is BS!!!
Better?
You obviously didn't read my article before you inserted your rebuttal. Cost? Who the heck cares about cost? I care about my health not cost........
I believe this is a really good unbiased article: http://ezinearticles.com/?Are-Flu-Shots-Bad-or-The-Ultimate-Flu-Buster?&id=281622
Here is an exert :
"Many people are concerned about the safety of flu shots, bad reactions to them or just the number of chemicals that they contain. Doctors, researchers and scientists have linked flu shots to autism, Alzheimer’s and Guillain-Barre syndrome. Suspicions concerning the relationship between flu shots and the onset of chronic fatigue syndrome have been raised. Are flu shots bad? Some people think so."
Now be gone Sooner fan!!!!!!!!
Hook em Horns!!!!!!!!!!