Solution To The Site's Confussion

[Fivetears]

Thanks.

 

[nnuut]

Hi,

In order to gain access, I had to PM Tom last week to gain access to the forum. The instructions are at : http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?t=5010 .

I hope this helps.

Oreo

Thanks oreo, FT those instructions (getting started etc.) are at the bottom of the page when you open the Forum, just follow the link!!

 

[oreo]

Ah Norman you're killing me; subscribed last week. :laugh:
Kick me the hot link to the page.

Hi,

In order to gain access, I had to PM Tom last week to gain access to the forum. The instructions are at : http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showthread.php?t=5010 .

I hope this helps.

Oreo

 

[nnuut]

Yeah you are, look under Members Allocation talk, just below Member's Account Return's Tally. If you can't see it PM me and I'll try to get you activated.
Norman

 

[Fivetears]

Ah Norman you're killing me; subscribed last week. :laugh:
Kick me the hot link to the page.

FT, subscribers to Premium Services can see the Premium Services Talk Forum, if not subscribed you cant see it, But I Can!!!!!

 

[nnuut]

FT, subscribers to Premium Services can see the Premium Services Talk Forum, if not subscribed you cant see it, But I Can!!!!!

 

[Fivetears]

Where James? I didn't see a link to it on the Main Subscription page, or even the Ebb Chart page. I did recommend (to Tom) the addition of a link to the subscribed MB be posted on the Ebb Chart page.

 

[James48843]

Preimum members can now openly discuss the Ebb chart in a new premium message board. If you are a paying member and haven't seen the board yet, it is now there.

thanks

 

[Steadygain]

Wow! This thread has really taken off. I had no idea it was that easy to determine Ebb's moves from day to day. You all are way smarter than me, but since it's after the fact I guess I never really thought about it.

The main problem at hand - and for which I was majorly guilty - is talking about Ebb to begin with. At times it's very advantageous to change the call on your own behalf (and make it known after the fact).

But I never heard of the 5 day rule (or not disclosing anything until it becomes public knowledge). So it won't happen again.

Not talking about Ebb is the easiest solution, and I no longer do. There is more than enough information regarding the Markets and our Economy to occupy our thoughts and time. And that's the point of this thread.

We are in a transition of finding very significant pieces of information from each others postings - and determining the most appropriate action for ourselves. I studied Trader Fred's information on a regular basis and Ebb's as well - but now they are meaningless because I call my own shots - and I only have access to Ebb if I chose this down the road.

But my dear friends - brothers and sisters of the TSP Site - the main message is letting Tom know his efforts are highly recognized and we all know he is doing everything possible to keep the peace. So Tom - keep up the good work and in the near future all this mess will be ancient history.

 

[nnuut]

We were discussing a 5 day rule. Where your IFT's are not displayed until 5 days after the fact. My point was you can figure out Ebbcharts moves in one day with the way things are now.

Future moves are not in question. No way of knowing unless your a subscriber or getting data from a subscriber.

OK, I got ya, based on the EBBChart!!! View attachment 2324

 

[ATCJeff]

But, isn't it true that this data is available after the daily deadline? The fifth grader would be a day behind and be guessing what EBB's next move would be, right?:worried:
Norman

We were discussing a 5 day rule. Where your IFT's are not displayed until 5 days after the fact. My point was you can figure out Ebbcharts moves in one day with the way things are now.

Future moves are not in question. No way of knowing unless your a subscriber or getting data from a subscriber.

 

[nnuut]

In the Auto Tracker Ebb's allocation can be figured each evening. Since his system's return is published, we know the system goes 100%, we wrote down yesterday's YTD return, all we have to do is look at the gain/loss to figure which fund the system was in. My fifth grader could figure it out!

But, isn't it true that this data is available after the daily deadline? The fifth grader would be a day behind and be guessing what EBB's next move would be, right?:worried:
Norman

 

[ATCJeff]

But .... if Ebb did an ift entry each day, even if the move is to stay in exactly the same fund for 2 days in a row, then the rest cannot tell if he moved in or out, and therefore they cannot tell whether ebb moved or not.

So easy, even a 5th grade cave man can do it.

James we were talking past moves, not futrue. You could still tell where the system was for a given day. The key information is the YTD return published everyday.

 

[charmed855]

But .... if Ebb did an ift entry each day, even if the move is to stay in exactly the same fund for 2 days in a row, then the rest cannot tell if he moved in or out, and therefore they cannot tell whether ebb moved or not.

So easy, even a 5th grade cave man can do it.

Not sure I follow. At issue is the 5 day rule which is silly given the availability of allocation results. Ebb was in G today, and I Mon and Tue. That's not subscriber info because it's openly published by way of allocations.

I would think you would want people to be able to compare their results to Ebb on a daily basis - that way they might want to subscribe as they see him making all the right moves (oops - this week being a bad example :embarrest. Right now it's out of sight/out of mind (for some of us).

 

[Mr recognizer]

ok heres one for you...what is Reverend sharks and the ebbcharts total return begginning oct 1st 2007 ...chew on that one.....Mr Recognizer

 

[James48843]

In the Auto Tracker Ebb's allocation can be figured each evening. Since his system's return is published, we know the system goes 100%, we wrote down yesterday's YTD return, all we have to do is look at the gain/loss to figure which fund the system was in. My fifth grader could figure it out!

But .... if Ebb did an ift entry each day, even if the move is to stay in exactly the same fund for 2 days in a row, then the rest cannot tell if he moved in or out, and therefore they cannot tell whether ebb moved or not.

So easy, even a 5th grade cave man can do it.

 

[ATCJeff]

Where is the premium service allocations avaiable within a day? We are going through some growing pains since going to the premium services. I see where we are exploring a possible premium server so members can freely discuss the EbbChart and other premium services after signing in. Until then be patient and remember loose lips only hurt ourselves.

In the Auto Tracker Ebb's allocation can be figured each evening. Since his system's return is published, we know the system goes 100%, we wrote down yesterday's YTD return, all we have to do is look at the gain/loss to figure which fund the system was in. My fifth grader could figure it out!

You are correct on that account, but I never thought that anybody would bother. I do not think we would want to hide the Year To Date (YTD) return, but maybe we should only update the return data on a weekly basis. I'll point that out to Tom and ebbnflow.

But why do "we" care if you can figure out the allocations after the fact? Everyone knows Ebb's system is a high risk system that moves frequently. I do not see the advantage in knowing the allocations after a day.

 

[EW_ret]

You are correct on that account, but I never thought that anybody would bother. I do not think we would want to hide the Year To Date (YTD) return, but maybe we should only update the return data on a weekly basis. I'll point that out to Tom and ebbnflow.

In the Auto Tracker Ebb's allocation can be figured each evening. Since his system's return is published, we know the system goes 100%, we wrote down yesterday's YTD return, all we have to do is look at the gain/loss to figure which fund the system was in. My fifth grader could figure it out!

 

[Birchtree]

It's still too much of a bother for me - never cared and never will care. Besides the "Cooler" lurks.

 

[ATCJeff]

Where is the premium service allocations avaiable within a day?

In the Auto Tracker Ebb's allocation can be figured each evening. Since his system's return is published, we know the system goes 100%, we wrote down yesterday's YTD return, all we have to do is look at the gain/loss to figure which fund the system was in. My fifth grader could figure it out!