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Can anyone tell me what companies our funds are invested in the S fund. The reason i ask is, there are days when i clean up in the S fund with just a small gain in the DOW and other days i have small or no gains with the DOW up a few points. So obviously our "S" fund comprises only a portion of the companies which may or may not show a gain when the DOW goes up. Not really any reason i want to know this i guess, but is there a list somewhere showing what our funds are invested in by percent?
 
silversurfer said:
Can anyone tell me what companies our funds are invested in the S fund. The reason i ask is, there are days when i clean up in the S fund with just a small gain in the DOW and other days i have small or no gains with the DOW up a few points. So obviously our "S" fund comprises only a portion of the companies which may or may not show a gain when the DOW goes up. Not really any reason i want to know this i guess, but is there a list somewhere showing what our funds are invested in by percent?
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I believe S is the Wilshire 4500.
 
silversurfer said:
Can anyone tell me what companies our funds are invested in the S fund. The reason i ask is, there are days when i clean up in the S fund with just a small gain in the DOW and other days i have small or no gains with the DOW up a few points. So obviously our "S" fund comprises only a portion of the companies which may or may not show a gain when the DOW goes up. Not really any reason i want to know this i guess, but is there a list somewhere showing what our funds are invested in by percent?
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Actually, to answer your question is a little longer. Sensei is right that our S-Fund is comprised of the 4500 stocks NOT in the S&P 500 (aka the Wilshire 4500 index is a good example).

Tracking the DJIA to determine movements in your TSP is not exactly fair, as even the C-Fund is the S&P 500 Index. So, no TSP fund mirrors the DJIA. Someone smarter than me can confirm, but I do believe there is no correlation other than overall market movements...

Vague enough?

Not really any reason i want to know this i guess, but is there a list somewhere showing what our funds are invested in by percent?
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Not sure, but I doubt it...
 
Actually i asked the question out of curiosity. It's just a matter of "I can learn 1 more thing I didn't know before" kind of thing.
 
I listened to the radio clip on this page with the interview with Tom Trabucco about the roth. I found this interesting that 'we tried to decide what was better...giving the information way before the implementation, or right before, and decided it was better to give it out just before' .......Better for who??? If this info was passed on 6 months ago we would have a chance to get any vagueness figured out. Try looking out for the interests of the actual investors.
 
Nice to see a small return even though the dow was down a few. A piece of not so good news is the new legislation to freeze fed pay thru mid 2014.
Disclosure....PIP 17.01% current tracker 110
 
silversurfer said:
Can anyone tell me what companies our funds are invested in the S fund. The reason i ask is, there are days when i clean up in the S fund with just a small gain in the DOW and other days i have small or no gains with the DOW up a few points. So obviously our "S" fund comprises only a portion of the companies which may or may not show a gain when the DOW goes up. Not really any reason i want to know this i guess, but is there a list somewhere showing what our funds are invested in by percent?
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From the TSP Website:
By law, the S Fund must be invested in a portfolio designed to replicate the performance of an index of U.S. common stocks, excludingthose that are held in the C Fund. The Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board has chosen as its benchmark the Dow JonesU.S. Completion Total Stock Market Index, which tracks the performance of the actively traded non-S&P 500 stocks in the U.S. stockmarket.The​
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Dow Jones U.S. Completion Total Stock Market Index is an index of all actively traded U.S. common stocks that are not included in the S&P 500 Index. The index is designed to be the broadest measure of the non-S&P 500 domestic stock markets. As of December 31, 2010, the index was comprised of 3,385 common stocks. The Dow Jones U.S. Completion TSM Index made up approximately 25% of the market value of the U.S. stock markets; the S&P 500 accounted for the other 75%. Thus, the combined S Fund and C Fund cover virtually the entire U.S. stock market. The Dow Jones U.S. Completion TSM Index is weighted by float-adjusted market capitalization, in which a company’s market value and its weighting in the index are calculated using the number of shares that are freely traded, rather than all outstanding shares. Shares that are notfreely traded, such as the holdings of controlling shareholders and theirfamilies, company management, and other companies, are excluded fromthe calculation. A company’s weighting in the index is the float-adjustedmarket value of the company (that is, the share price multiplied by the number of freely traded shares outstanding) as a percentage of the combined float-adjusted market value of all companies in the index.
As of December 31, 2010, the largest 100 companies in the Dow Jones U.S.Completion TSM Index represented 23.7% of the index.​
 
For those of you who use this site and know all the fancy terms...where can the rest of us dummies go and find out some of the terminology? Obviously those with backgrounds closer to financial type jobs have an easier access to some of this stuff, but as a lowly electrician, i'm learning as i go. Any suggestions?
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My PIP is 17.01% so i'm not that lost, but every little bit helps
 
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Many ups and only a few downs....waiting for the shoe to drop. Kinda thinking of sitting out for awhile. May see what the market does for openers and the make a decision unless someone can give me a really good reason to stay 100%S.
 
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Many ups and only a few downs....waiting for the shoe to drop. Kinda thinking of sitting out for awhile. May see what the market does for openers and the make a decision unless someone can give me a really good reason to stay 100%S.
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Go to Birchtree's Account Talk.
 
Got out yesterday morning 80G 20F.....but forgot to change the auto tracker, so no help there. But at least i got it were it counts and i can make a few bucks on this nasty downturn today. 1 move left for the rest of the month....maybe next week i'll see what the chrystal ball says.
current auto tracker about 160
PIP 19.72% as of 3-3-12
 
Well, i sat out for a couple of weeks which turned out to be a poor decision. Not really a poor decision, but the getting back in was not well timed. Better luck to me next time. Forgetting to change the autotracker kind of killed me though bacause i too almost 2% loss over a day or two, but not in my actual account. Still, the PIP is at 19.72% and i really hope to maintain a nice average over the next 19 years. Many thanks to all who use this site. Without all the accumulated knowledge, i would be floundering.
 
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