Should the Gov't bail out SUV owners next?

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why isnt there congressional hearings on predatory lenders like these?

no one told them the costs of ownership would increase while the value decreased.

shameful!!!!

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http://www.boston.com/news/local/ma...wners_try_to_unload_their_guzzlers/?page=full

The sale of new SUVs and pickup trucks has dropped precipitously in recent months amid soaring gas prices and a weakening economy: SUV sales for the month of April alone fell 32.3 percent from a year earlier and small car sales rose 18.6 percent. This fundamental shift comes against a backdrop of relentless gas increases, and growing concerns over the environment and US oil consumption, according to auto analysts and car dealers.

"The SUV craze was a bubble and now it is bursting," said George Hoffer, an economics professor at Virginia Commonwealth University whose research focuses on the automotive industry. "It's an irrational vehicle. It'll never come back."

With stocks of unwanted new SUVs and pickups piling up at dealerships across the country, automakers are offering unprecedented promotions. Incentives for large SUVs, including cash rebates, topped $4,000 in March, or more than double those offered in March 2002, according to Edmunds.com, which monitors the motor industry.

At the same time, consumers like Chrystall are flooding the market with used SUVs, trying to trade in hulking Hummers for compact Corollas, and getting thousands of dollars less than they would have just a few months ago. In April, the average used SUV took more than 66 days to sell, at a 20 percent discount from vehicle valuation books, such as Kelley Blue Book, compared to 48 days and a 7.8 percent discount a year earlier, reported CNW Marketing Research, an automotive marketing research company.

Some desperate car dealers and consumers, are willing to lose thousands of dollars just to get rid of their SUVs. Last July, 20-year-old Sannan Nizami, of Lowell, bought a 2007 Toyota 4Runner SUV for $32,000 when it cost about $65 to fill the tank. Six months later, as a gallon of gas soared to $3.50 and more, and tank refills climbed over $80, Nizami put the vehicle up for sale. He posted it online for $27,000 but received no responses for months.

Frustrated and unable to afford prices at the pump, Nizami last month turned over the Toyota to a dealer who only sells vehicles from private owners. Nizami is still paying the $450 loan but now is bumming rides to work with a cousin and worrying about making enough from the sale to cover the car loan.
 
Last year we moved from a town that was snowbound 9 months a year to a place with palm trees in the front yard. We traded off the 9 passenger SUV we had needed to resupply in winter for a Toyota Yaris that gets 40 mpg. At the time we didn't know that it was super market timing!!:laugh:

Lady
 
Hell yes..that would be great...Unmentioned by the narrow minded anti-HUMMER owners, is there are several volunteer organizations all over the country that step up to the needs of their communities during times of hardship and disasters...I for one help the local fire department when they need aid and assistance to people stranded due to snow or Ice storms..I have delivered people to the local shelters and brought food to the elderly, during some pretty heavy storms, when normal city activities and transportation is at a stand still...So, Hell yes!, in spite of the typical stereo typed gas guzzler unfairly labeled on us (which we are not even close to some the soccer mom SUVS for gas guzzling)..We are a valuable part to our communities.

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Amen Buster,

I don't know how many times I've hauled supplies, equipment etc in my big PU for the local little/senior leagues or stopped and hooked up my chain to pull someone outta the ditch line in the winter time. We all can't live in the big city or the warmth where it doesn't snow.

Out in the country, we kinda come in handy for a lot of folks. And those of us with those nasty old big PU's and SUV's do it w/o any payment. But we'un's are pretty much self reliant and don't depend the nanny state to take care of us.

It's always funny now when the greenies, in the office, ask the 2 of us that have big PU's to borrow them for the weekend to haul something to big for their vehicle or bicycle. :D

But I'll gladly accept another welfare check, I mean stimulus check to add to my ROTH. I'm looking to put my 40 acres in as a carbon credit, since I'm continually running off the loggers who want my timber my land. I'll definately put in for that. The libs are actually thinking about doing that.

Just another evil conservative, raping or rapping :nuts: the environment. Sorry for the rant.

CB
 
Let's face the truth here. People who decide to drive an SUV really don't have trouble making the gas payment - they are a status symbol. There is a reason I don't own an SUV or large truck, but that is only my decision. What do you think the gas mileage is from our friend Cayman's Aston Martin - it's simply free economic choice. I prefer the two wheels of the Ducati but I also own three other cars. I hand wash, polish, and wax them all and pay my insurance bills.
 
Let's face the truth here. People who decide to drive an SUV really don't have trouble making the gas payment - they are a status symbol. There is a reason I don't own an SUV or large truck, but that is only my decision. What do you think the gas mileage is from our friend Cayman's Aston Martin - it's simply free economic choice. I prefer the two wheels of the Ducati but I also own three other cars. I hand wash, polish, and wax them all and pay my insurance bills.
As do SUV owners like me..Amen Birch
And I respect your choices..it has absolutely nothing to do with me..So why should anybody care about what I drive so much that, they have to resort to vandalizing the car or burning it....?..That makes no sense at all..:suspicious:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/17/AR2007071701808.html

Fact: When you add together all the combined energy it takes to drive, build and dispose of a Toyota Prius, the flagship car of energy fanatics and leaf lickers, it takes almost 50 percent more energy than a Hummer.
 
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Let's face the truth here. People who decide to drive an SUV really don't have trouble making the gas payment - they are a status symbol. There is a reason I don't own an SUV or large truck, but that is only my decision. What do you think the gas mileage is from our friend Cayman's Aston Martin - it's simply free economic choice. I prefer the two wheels of the Ducati but I also own three other cars. I hand wash, polish, and wax them all and pay my insurance bills.

Status symbol? I don't think so, at least not for me. I need it to haul things to and from the farm. I have a very short commute to work (24 miles round trip) and my wife's and daughter's are the gas sippers. I just did the old wash and wax yesterday on all 3 and I'm sure feeling it this morning. :(

And of course it's raining now. :nuts:

CB
 
Well, I think I'll keep my 4Runner. I live 5 miles from work, get 18 MPG around town and 22 MPG on the highway. My coworker travels 100 miles a day and his wife travels 75. With 2 Expeditions it's about to break the bank. If I had a long commute I would think about getting a Moped!!
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FYI. Here's an interesting DOE site that compares the gas mileage, carbon foot print, pollution etc of various vehicles.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/

Just for comparison, the H3 Hummer costs $5.64 to drive 25 miles. The Toyota Prius costs just $1.96! My Avalon's in the middle at $3.92.

However, the H3 Hummer actually gets better gas mileage than my brother's F-150 pickup. $115.00 to fill it up. Ouch!:laugh:----Jim
 
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