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Why have there been hugh blank spots in the charts for the S Fund? This is two days in a row. Completely different performance shown for the fund in different places in the TSP Talk site. For Thursday the charts show -1.68% yet the front page of the site under share prices shows a -.02% performance for the day? Which is it? Today it shows almost -3.0% but I don't know if that's skewed due to messed up data. When I look on Monday will there be a completely different number for Fridays performance than what it shows today? WTF? Hardly inspires confidence in the system.

I know this isn't a TSP Talk problem as the charts for the SDWCPF have been screwed up everywhere I looked. Can hardly make invesment decisions when the data you are provided is wrong.
 
It looks like the price they are using for the previous close (717) is off by about 11 points. I think S closed a little over 706 yesterday. So you need to bust out the calculator and divide 706 by the current price (about 698 as I write this). Looks like we're down about 1.14% at the moment.
 
Re: S-Fund Chart

Sounds like a good idea. I will put that on the list.

Thanks
 
I have merged both of these threads together since they are covering the same subject.
 
HotRod said:
Why have there been hugh blank spots in the charts for the S Fund? This is two days in a row. Completely different performance shown for the fund in different places in the TSP Talk site. For Thursday the charts show -1.68% yet the front page of the site under share prices shows a -.02% performance for the day? Which is it? Today it shows almost -3.0% but I don't know if that's skewed due to messed up data. When I look on Monday will there be a completely different number for Fridays performance than what it shows today? WTF? Hardly inspires confidence in the system.

I know this isn't a TSP Talk problem as the charts for the SDWCPF have been screwed up everywhere I looked. Can hardly make invesment decisions when the data you are provided is wrong.
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One of our readers asked around and got a response from the Wilshire folks:

Thank you for your interest in the Wilshire Indexes. The following message was sent earlier today:

We discovered that our provider of real-time index calculations had an error in their process that resulted in incorrect values for the price returns of the Wilshire Indexes at the close on June 1, 2011. The total return values of the Wilshire Indexes were not affected. The corrected values are:

Index Index Level

W4500 700.9718699

W5000 13952.11333

W5000FLT 13733.62694

W5KLC 3094.053083
.
.
We apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused.
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Tom,

Which would be the closet chart to follow for the S Fund ^DWCPF or ^W4500?
 
They "should" be the same, but I guess the DWCPF has been a little flaky lately.
 
tsptalk said:
They "should" be the same, but I guess the DWCPF has been a little flaky lately.
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Comparing the two charts, they are little different. But the ^4500 is the Wilshire 4500 Completion Index. Where the ^DWCPF is the Dow Jones U.S. Completion Total. So maybe we should be tracking the ^4500.
 
nasa1974 said:
Comparing the two charts, they are little different. But the ^4500 is the Wilshire 4500 Completion Index. Where the ^DWCPF is the Dow Jones U.S. Completion Total. So maybe we should be tracking the ^4500.
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I believe it changed in the last your or two. According to the TSP website:

The S Fund's investment objective is to match the performance of the Dow Jones U.S. Completion Total Stock Market Index, a broad market index made up of stocks of U.S. companies not included in the S&P 500 Index.
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The idea is the same - all U.S. stocks outside of the S&P 500.
 
I thought the S Fund was all the stocks, other than the Dow components, that make up the S&P 500. In other words, the S&P 500 minus the Dow stocks.

I guess this is kinda of a small cap index, S&P minus the blue chips.

Tom, I didn't mean to infer that TSP talk was in any way responsible for the bad data and hope it didn't come off that way. I, like the others, really appreciate the time and effort you put into this site.
 
HotRod said:
I thought the S Fund was all the stocks, other than the Dow components, that make up the S&P 500. In other words, the S&P 500 minus the Dow stocks.

I guess this is kinda of a small cap index, S&P minus the blue chips.
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The S-fund is basically the Wilshire 5000 minus the S&P 500 stocks - hence the Wilshire 4500.

HotRod said:
Tom, I didn't mean to infer that TSP talk was in any way responsible for the bad data and hope it didn't come off that way. I, like the others, really appreciate the time and effort you put into this site.
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I didn't take it that way. :)
 
I find it frustrating that whether you're talking about the W4500 or DWCPF you can't look at anything more than the past 5 days, when we know that they did in fact exist 6 days ago.. That's not a TSP Talk issue, but I wonder if anyone here knows of a good explanation for that.

As always I give a kudos to Tom and this site for being comprehensive, and for being proactive in dealing with changes and issues that may concern us.
 
I was turned on to www.freestockcharts.com by members of this board. It will go back 2 years in daily mode for all of our "BIG 4" fund indices. In other words ^DWCPF, EFA, S&P500, and AGG. Not hard to set up and highly interactive. Even I can do it :). I've quit looking at the Yahoo charts since I was turned on to this. I treat the 4 charts at the bottom of Toms site as quick looks now and I am grateful that he has put kept them here.
Now the freestockchart site doesn't answer the 5 day DWCPF problem, but it is one way to get around it for us penny pinchers. And since this is about the S fund... I might also suggest throwing in IWM (Russell 2000) and IWR (Russel Mid Caps) if you use this.
 
I'm confsued so which one more closey matches the S Fund? They have dropped at different rates today.
 
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