ready for more dog attacks from any breed?

Mapper said:
Lack of positive reinforcement. Dog relearns that this person just comes and makes noise, disturbs the home and offers nothing in return (to the dog).
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So, you're saying my Mom's dog was pissed at her (the dog's) former buddy because he wouldn't stop and throw the ball or rough house any more? The dog found no value in the mail that he pushed through the slot in the door? It makes sense to me and the poor guy probably should have as we lived at the top of a hill and he walked with that big bag in those days.

Mapper said:
For the record, not all dogs are this way. My dog loves people and that includes the letter carrier. Unfortunately, in my current house, my roommate has one of those crazy protective labs that barks whenever anyone approaches...now my dog is learning this behavior. Sad because my dog is a Husky so any foul behavior is blamed on him when in reality it's the lab that isn't properly trained.
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Yeah, I agree. Several years ago my daughter's Vizsla mix stayed with us while she and her husband were in SWA doing, as we joked about, <undisclosed> things. Lot's of stories there but the dog's did teach each other things. Mostly bad things. Since the Vizsla was never leash trained, our walks were fun to say the least. The Lab would copy the Vizsla's behavior. Our trips to the local dog park were fun, as the vizsla liked to run with the dogs, the lab liked to go meet the people.

Watching those two interact was funny in a way. All would be calm, the Lab would suddenly get up and put her nose to the Vizsla's ear. They would trot over to a bush and the Lab would bite off a branch and throw it down. Then the Lab would go back and lay down. The Vizsla would stand there for a minute, looking at me and the Lab, then attack the bush. I probably should have nipped that in the bud but don't believe you can scold a dog until it actually does the bad deed. I also believe the Lab instigated a pogrom to dig out of the gulag. I came home from work one day to find the Vzslia working on a hole by the wall that was deep enough so only the tip of her tail was visible. They were digging in the kennel area which was a DDZ (designated digging zone). Yup, realizing that the Lab "needed" to dig, we managed to teach her where it was allowed.
The Red Bone made peace with one of the letter carriers after he and I talked one day in front of the dog. Both the Red Bone and the Cocker were not trained much and were ignored a lot. That was the early 70s and we were not very good owners.

Mapper said:
Articles like the one cited above just make me sad because so many pet behaviors problems result from lack of proper exercise and training/socialization. A healthy, tired dog is almost always a good dog.
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No doubt in my mind, you are right, at least most of the time. In many ways, owning a dog is much like having a kid. If you give them the right drug combination, you can just stash them somewhere until you feel like dealing with them.
 
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thanks to the FDA

http://www.anh-usa.org/prozac-for-pets/

Reconcile’s full product label, which by law includes complete safety information, does not contain the black box warning that is mandatory on the drug for humans. Of course, that black box notice merely warns of increased risk of suicidal thinking and behavior in children, adolescents, and young adults. The label doesn’t make any mention of the documented connection between antidepressants and violence towards others, nor the drug’s propensity for causing mania, or increased feelings of hostility or anxiety in humans. Withdrawal from SSRIs can be similarly dangerous, ranging from nausea to suicidal ideations.

go to the link to read more

investment related, buy stock in the drug companies.
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What's next, doggy viagra?:blink:
 
PessOptimist said:
kk, I have never understood the relationship between dogs and mail carriers.

When I was a kid, we had an idiot mutt who loved all my friends. Later after I left home, one of those friends became the mail carrier for my old neighborhood. My mom told me that every time he came to the door to deliver the mail, that old mutt would drag herself off the floor, go to the door and do the "killer dog act". This was a guy who used to play with her.

The three dogs I have owned were very mellow most of the time. One was a red bone hound mix who was too big to be a pet. He eventually moved on to a new owner who taught him to be a SC huntin' dog. The only person he ever seemed to dislike was our mail carrier. There were some issues with an elderly lady down the street and the dog drinking the milk on her door step. The next dog was a mentally challenged cocker spaniel. He mostly ignored everybody except the mail carrier. He turned in to Cujo when it was mail delivery time. The third was a Lab who was hyper but loved everybody. Almost. She would get defensive when the mail truck drove by. She also went bananas whenever UPS or FedEx drove by or came to the house.

So. what's up with that?

nnuut-if that Lab knows it can jump a six foot fence it will only stop when it decides to stop. Mine settled down a little about the time she turned 8.
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Lack of positive reinforcement. Dog relearns that this person just comes and makes noise, disturbs the home and offers nothing in return (to the dog).

For the record, not all dogs are this way. My dog loves people and that includes the letter carrier. Unfortunately, in my current house, my roommate has one of those crazy protective labs that barks whenever anyone approaches...now my dog is learning this behavior. Sad because my dog is a Husky so any foul behavior is blamed on him when in reality it's the lab that isn't properly trained.

Articles like the one cited above just make me sad because so many pet behaviors problems result from lack of proper exercise and training/socialization. A healthy, tired dog is almost always a good dog.
 
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thanks to the FDA
http://www.anh-usa.org/prozac-for-pets/
Reconcile’s full product label, which by law includes complete safety information, does not contain the black box warning that is mandatory on the drug for humans. Of course, that black box notice merely warns of increased risk of suicidal thinking and behavior in children, adolescents, and young adults. The label doesn’t make any mention of the documented connection between antidepressants and violence towards others, causing mania, or the drug’s propensity for , or increased feelings of hostility or anxiety in humans. Withdrawal from SSRIs can be similarly dangerous, ranging from nausea to suicidal ideations.
go to the link to read more
investment related, buy stock in the drug companies.
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Considering that the article states this has not been tested on animals as yet, I would be more inclined to go with Valkyrie's title: MORE dog attacks from ANY breed.
 
kk, I have never understood the relationship between dogs and mail carriers.

When I was a kid, we had an idiot mutt who loved all my friends. Later after I left home, one of those friends became the mail carrier for my old neighborhood. My mom told me that every time he came to the door to deliver the mail, that old mutt would drag herself off the floor, go to the door and do the "killer dog act". This was a guy who used to play with her.

The three dogs I have owned were very mellow most of the time. One was a red bone hound mix who was too big to be a pet. He eventually moved on to a new owner who taught him to be a SC huntin' dog. The only person he ever seemed to dislike was our mail carrier. There were some issues with an elderly lady down the street and the dog drinking the milk on her door step. The next dog was a mentally challenged cocker spaniel. He mostly ignored everybody except the mail carrier. He turned in to Cujo when it was mail delivery time. The third was a Lab who was hyper but loved everybody. Almost. She would get defensive when the mail truck drove by. She also went bananas whenever UPS or FedEx drove by or came to the house.

So. what's up with that?

nnuut-if that Lab knows it can jump a six foot fence it will only stop when it decides to stop. Mine settled down a little about the time she turned 8.
 
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thanks to the FDA

http://www.anh-usa.org/prozac-for-pets/

Reconcile’s full product label, which by law includes complete safety information, does not contain the black box warning that is mandatory on the drug for humans. Of course, that black box notice merely warns of increased risk of suicidal thinking and behavior in children, adolescents, and young adults. The label doesn’t make any mention of the documented connection between antidepressants and violence towards others, nor the drug’s propensity for causing mania, or increased feelings of hostility or anxiety in humans. Withdrawal from SSRIs can be similarly dangerous, ranging from nausea to suicidal ideations.

go to the link to read more

investment related, buy stock in the drug companies.
 
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