re: plagiarism

[ayla]

re: plagiarism

Spaf, i just patented my system. If you see anybody following my moves without my permission, can you please let me know.

Thanks!!!!!

That gave me a good laugh, thanks MLK_MAN!

And it does bring up another question -- If I download a chart that someone else has posted on the forum, is that chart copyrighted if it was put together by the guy posting?

Seems that all the data would be publicly available (in the case I'm asking about) and they would be using some kind of software that anyone could buy so the chart would be easily repeated. Does that make a difference, if it's repeatable? Just wondering.

Is a copyright only in force if someone actually puts some kind of "copyright" statement on what they have published? I thought I read somewhere that everything is automatically copyrighted to some extent. Just wondering.

Also, what about the guys who are writing programs that provide a system for trading these funds and they tell us the logic they are using. Can we use that same logic in a program we write? And what if we were to not only use but also sell it?

This is probably spelled out somewhere so maybe I'm just asking for a link here. Thanks in advance.

 

[mlk_man]

Re: plagiarism

That gave me a good laugh, thanks MLK_MAN!

Glad it did what it was intended to do.

As far as your questions, my guess is that this is a public forum so all information is available to use as you please.

 

[Fivetears]

Re: plagiarism

Copyright
The Internet has been characterized as the largest threat to copyright since its inception. The Internet is awash in information, much of it with varying degrees of copyright protection. Copyrighted works on the net include news stories, software, novels, screenplays, graphics, pictures, Usenet messages and even email. In fact, the frightening reality is that almost everything on the Net is protected by copyright law.
http://www.benedict.com/Info/Info.aspx

 

[ayla]

Re: plagiarism

Great link. I scanned most of the info. Looks like as long as we use the charts posted by others for "educational purposes", if would be okay and fall under the "fair use" clause.

Looks like criteria for using the work of others is largely concerned about whether it is "for profit". There is other stuff too but I think we fall under the "educational" clause.

If one revealed their software and the logic behind their software and someone else took that logic and wrote their own program and sold it, seems to me that that could be a copyright violation.

Policing it, proving it, there being a way others even know you've done that, that is another story. If the logic were comprised of fairly standard investment indicators, seems like it would be hard for anyone to prove theft.

Only if there was something very unique. Looks like selling software with unique original analysis (such as including definitions of indicators never used before) would be illegal IMO.

Guess I'm a lawyer, wannabe.

 

[Fivetears]

Re: plagiarism

Not a thing wrong with that around here, ayla. We all need folks with good heads on their shoulders; you strike me as being one.

Guess I'm a lawyer, wannabe.

 

[Spaf]

Re: plagiarism

Great link. I scanned most of the info. Looks like as long as we use the charts posted by others for "educational purposes", if would be okay and fall under the "fair use" clause.

Looks like criteria for using the work of others is largely concerned about whether it is "for profit". There is other stuff too but I think we fall under the "educational" clause.

Could be! But if we make a profit from other posts/charts then TSPTalk could be in a legal battle. Why?

MHO, is to stay as far away as possible from conflicts! Posts your links or references, to the best we can. Why put this site in jeopardy? I'm not a lawyer, but why risk the legality issue when we can minimize the risks buy following the TOS.

 

[ayla]

Re: plagiarism

Spaf -
Guess I wasn't clear. My questions were about the charts and info posted here by the members of tsptalk that don't come from anywhere else but their own brains (hence there are no links to post).

My orig question was about those posts (and program logic) that in fact are original (or are claimed to be original) to a tsptalk member and might be used by another tsp talk member on another board somewhere else totally separate from tsptalk.

In other words, I was wondering how legal is it to take what is here and use it somewhere else.

I think the answer is if it is used for educational purposes it is legal (according to what I read). If it is used for profit - not legal, and how to police is a totally different and very difficult issue.

I wasn't referring to any potential liabilities of the tsptalk board. I don't think there would be any in any of these scenarios if the info under question is in fact original to the tsp board. (On the other hand, tsp talk might have cause to sue the other boards, LOL but impossible to police, IMO)