Postal Service Looks To Cut 40,000 Jobs In First Layoff In History

[Buster]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 120,000 Jobs

Gee there Buster- who do you think sets postal rates?

Hint- It is NOT the USPS.

If USPS could set their own market-based postal rates, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

I'm not complaining about .44 cents for a first class letter. I'm happy to pay that, and then some, since the U.S. Postal Service is FAR FAR superior to private corporations. Let's see FEDEX or UPS try to deliver a letter for .44 cents.

I'm pissed that junk mail corporations can pay just .136 cents for the same service that I have to pay .44 cents for.

Why do we subsidize corporations?

How about we take care of PEOPLE instead of corporations?

Again you don't know what you're talking about..Like KevinD said; Since Corps are mailing zillions of pieces of mail, the USPS sets the rate for such large amounts of mail..Like any other facets of buisness, the more you buy of a widget, the less you pay per unit price..nothing new..so get use to it, it's a fact of life in business economy 101..

You'll just have to start making a better living for your self, other than hoping Uncle Sam sends you a pay check every two weeks from taxpayer taxes....Ooooh Noooo Mr Bill..!

 

[James48843]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 120,000 Jobs

Again you don't know what you're talking about..Like KevinD said; Since Corps are mailing zillions of pieces of mail, the USPS sets the rate

Once again Buster, if you think the USPS sets the postal rates, you are ignorant.



Rates are set by the Postal Rate Commission, (Postal Regulatory Commission), a group appointed by the President to fixed terms of service, and are totally independent of the USPS. It's a five member panel. The current panel was appointed by....now get this- by George W. Bush for two of the members, and 2 were appointed by President Obama. A fifth panel member is awaiting confirmation by the Senate - but the Senate is dragging it's feet on all of President Obama's nominations.

They are lobbied very heavily by the corporations to reduce rates- see

http://www.prweekus.com/postal-commission-denies-rate-increase/article/180221/ about the last Postal Rate increase request which was DENIED, and the 900 lobbing corporations who fought a 2 cent rate increase request.

NO, BUSTER, THE USPS DOES NOT SET THEIR OWN RATES.

The good news here, Buster, is that your ignorance can be cured by education.

 

[James48843]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 120,000 Jobs

A little education for you Buster-

This is who turned down the .2 cent Postal rate increase request that the USPS WANTED to get:

Two were republican, two were dems. The 5th seat is currently awaiting Senate confirmation.

Chairman Ruth Y. Goldway (D)	Nov, 22, 2014
Vice Chairman Mark Acton (R)	Oct, 14, 2010
Commissioner Nanci E. Langley (D)	Nov, 22, 2012
Commissioner Tony Hammond (R)	Oct, 14, 2010

Awaiting Senate Confirmation is Robert Taub, who was nominated earlier this year.
He has not yet been confirms- his nomination, like many others, is awaiting Senate action.

 

[James48843]

And here is a story about how the law operates when the USPS wants to do a rate increase.
http://www.dmnews.com/mailers-plan-coalition-to-fight-postal-rate-increase/article/173179/

They are limited by law to no more than inflation, UNLESS there are :extraordinary or exceptional circumstances". . Guess what? Last year, because there is no inflation, the USPS was prohibited from being granted a rate increases by law, unless they could convince the Postal Regulatory Commission of some "extrordinary or exceptional circumstance". More than 900 CORPORATIONS lobbied against the increase, and guess what? The Commission denied the USPS request.

Yes, the CORPORATIONS- the MONEY-- own everything in this country.



Everything.

And they will continue to squeeze the little worker, because you all are convinced that things will get better if we just destroy Unions, teachers, and anything that could possibly lift the educational accomplishment in this country- and thereby the benefits for employees (No, it won't, but that won't stop the money people from doing it).

 

[KevinD]

Yes, the CORPORATIONS- the MONEY-- own everything in this country.

Including the government.

 

[Show-me]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 120,000 Jobs

.................................................... here it goes.

USPS financial woes stem from a perfect storm of events.
1. Internet
2. 2008 recession which dramatically reduces standard (junk) mail volumes. Junk mail is the grease on the skids.
3. Higher fuel cost
4. Higher health insurance rates,
5. Bad legislation, prefunding retirees health care at a unreasonable rate not used by anyone in the pivate or public sector.
6. Contract requirements.

Lets look at the business facts.
1. USPS revenue last year $67 billion, so that means we have cash flow and there is money to be made.
2. USPS loss last year $8.5 billion, see above.
3. No lay off clause in contract. While every USPS competitor was laying off, cutting wages, and suspending 401k contributions to keep the company viable the USPS continued to march.
4. Over sized retail network. Way too many rural Post Office's. A office that cost USPS $70,000 to operate and brings in $4,000 to $6,000 in revenue. That rural PO need to sell $1400 in stamp a week to make a profit.
5. Six day delivery standard. Going to 5 like our competators could save $3 billion.
6. Right sizing pay for skill level is a big one.
7. USPS over paid CSRS by about $50 to $75 billion and Congress won't give it back because that would require other Agencies to make up where they have been slacking.

I could go on but I'm tired of thinking about. Look at Page A of the USPS Nation Payroll Hour Summary Report here. Look it over, it is for a two week period and I could cut enough to save about $3 billion a year without touching wages, retirement, or insurance.

Note: USPS pays $40 million in TSP 1% and match every pay period. That is the TSP hook, lol. Payroll and benifits for a two week pay period is $1.8 billion............................every two weeks ya'll......................

One thing is for sure Congress is to blame because management and the Unions have been telling them that we are out of money. Where is Congress? Where is that leadership Mr. President?

You guys ain't seen nothing yet, stay tuned because it is going to be a huge train wreak in a couple of weeks. STANDBY!!!!

 

[crws]

Some reading to pass along:

USPS Volume Mix Changes; Periodicals Still Declining Dr. Joe Webb on economics, strategy, marketing, and other random thoughts

Congress hog-tied the USPS when this y2k GAO report was issued about the USPS as it related to Electronic Commerce:
U.S. POSTAL SERVICE - Postal Activities and Laws Related to Electronic Commerce

and linked from the first URL, the cover story of Business Week (one of the best pubs out there, IMO, and I delivered many of them):

The U.S. Postal Service Nears Collapse

Finally, this program sponsored by New Hampshire public radio addressing the rural delivery issue, with Ruth Goldberg from the PRC as one of the guests:
Postal Problems - available as a podcast / broadcast here : http://www.nhpr.org/audio/audio/ex-2011-02-23.mp3.

 

[Buster]

At least this maybe some good news for our Letter Carriers...

Congress set to force Postal Service to keep Saturday delivery

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Congress butts in here (probably so they get their monthly Playboy subscription)..But they can't seem to get their sh!t together on keeping the rest of the honest hard working Government employee from losing their pay or jobs...BASTARDS!!!!

http://news.msn.com/politics/congress-set-to-force-postal-service-to-keep-saturday-delivery​

 

[wavecoder]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 220,000 Jobs

sucks, i feel bad for anyone going through this right now. we have any postal workers on this site?

 

[Sensei]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 220,000 Jobs

sucks, i feel bad for anyone going through this right now. we have any postal workers on this site?

Konakathy, rcknfrwld, I think KevinD (at least his picture looks like a mail carrier). Sorry if I'm forgetting others.

 

[alevin]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 220,000 Jobs

crws is also postal service, not a mail carrier, but likely even harder worker from what I know of what he does. He hasn't been around here in some time.

 

[Show-me]

Me, but I have applied for disability retirement.

 

[burrocrat]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 120,000 Jobs

i think buster might be postal too.

 

[nnuut]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 120,000 Jobs

i think buster might be postal too.

Not Buster!

 

[Buster]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 120,000 Jobs

Don't forget our brother Show-me....

 

[Buster]

Re: Postal Service To Cut 120,000 Jobs

Shadup Maxwell, I'm not the one ON Medication