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luv2read said:
Caribou have nothing to do with it. We need to have alternate, more efficient energy sources. We're being held hostage to oil, enough of that. And regardless of what some think, there is NOT enough oil under Alaska to supply the USA for the next 200 years, and even if there WAS, you wouldn't see the first drop of it for at least 10 years. Does NOTHING for the price of gas TODAY. Face facts.
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I took the following from Wikipedia:
"The question of whether to allow drilling for oil in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) has been a political football for every sitting American president since Jimmy Carter. The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge is just east of Prudhoe Bay in Alaska's "North Slope," which is North America's largest oil field. Currently, the Prudhoe bay area accounts for 17% of U.S. domestic oil production.[1] In 1987 and again in 1998 studies released by the U.S. Geological Survey have estimated significant deposits of crude oil exist within the land designated as the "1002 area" of ANWR, as well.[2][3][3]
Oil interest in the region goes back to the late 1960s. Since the 1979 energy crisis, the question of whether to drill for oil has become a hot-button issue for various groups. Most Alaskan residents, trade unions, and several business interests have supported drilling in the refuge, while environmental groups and many within the Democratic Party have traditionally opposed it. Among native Alaskan tribes, support is mixed.
In the 1990s and 2000s, votes about the status of the refuge occurred repeatedly in the U.S. House of Representatives and Senate, but as of 2007 efforts to allow drilling have always been ultimately thwarted by filibusters, amendments, or vetoes."

Had we started building after the 1998 survey, we'd be drilling and pulling out oil from that area right now. We have to start sometime.

We don't need the oil to last 200 years. I'd be happy with thirty or forty years. Advances in electrical motors, solar panels, and alternative fuels will continue and eventually we will be able to replace crude oil with an alternative fuel source. Necessity is the mother of invention, and given the current fuel crisis, maybe someone will quickly develop a viable alternative. In the meantime, crude oil is what we need. Alaska has a whole bunch of it. I say we send the Extreme Home Makeover crew up there and give them a month to build us a drilling rig and pipelines to connect to the Alaska Oil Pipeline. In less than a year, we'll have lower gas prices. :D
 
Hrmm....coastline drilling would be better, we can keep an eye on what those oil companies are doing. Moratorium on that dates back to the infamous big messy oil spill off of the Santa Barbara coastline (more than 10 years later when I went to college there, you still got tar all over your feet from the leftover goop if you walked on the beach). If they can prove that they have "cleaned up their act" enough to get approval to do coastline drilling, more power to them. Giving them free Federal lands is just a bigggg handout.

And there still is oil around Prudoe bay and on the North Slope outside of ANWAR, yes, the weather is nasty, and it's a very risky job, but look at what Canada has been able to do in places reachable only when there's pack ice, out in their Northwestern Territories, with nothing around for miles.

However, there still is the point that it takes 10 years to have viable production anywhere.
 
Oil pulls back, gas scales new high

Investors sell oil as the dollar gains ground.

NEW YORK (AP) -- Oil prices fell sharply Thursday as the dollar moved higher and forced crude to lose some of its appeal as a hedge against inflation. Gas prices reached another record at the pump, rising to a national average of $4.06 a gallon.
Light, sweet crude for July delivery fell $3.47 to $132.91 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
The dollar gained ground after the Commerce Department said retail sales rose in May by the biggest amount in six months as 57 million tax rebate checks reached consumers. The 15-nation euro fell to $1.5415, from $1.5571 late Wednesday.
Investors who bought commodities such as oil to protect against inflation when the dollar was falling tend to sell when the greenback gains ground. Also, a stronger dollar makes oil more expensive to investors overseas.
The dollar's protracted decline has been a major factor behind the doubling of oil prices over the past year. In recent days, oil prices have followed the dollar closely, spiked sharply higher, or lower, depending on the greenback's moves.
Pain at the pump
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http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/12/markets/oil.ap/index.htm?postversion=2008061210
 
luv2read said:
The permitting process alone takes 5 years with multiple federal and state agencies involved. Regulatory compliance, and not just environmental. There are safety issues.
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What safety issues that hasn't already been addressed over the last 100 years of oil drilling..??:confused:
 
Buster said:
What safety issues..??:confused:
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People who live and work there...and exploration and drilling safety. It's a very hazardous environment requiring special techniques and equipment to minimize accidents. I'm tired of rehashing this...
 
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luv2read said:
People who live and work there...and exploration and drilling safety. It's a very hazardous environment requiring special techniques and equipment to minimize accidents. I'm tired of rehashing this...
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Let me restate my question again....What safety issues that hasn't already been addressed over the last 100 years of oil drilling????????

I'm tired of pointing out the obvious:rolleyes:
 
Buster said:
Let me restate my question again....What safety issues that hasn't already been addressed over the last 100 years of oil drilling????????

I'm tired of pointing out the obvious:rolleyes:
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So am I. For the last time. What's gone before DOES NOT MATTER. REGULATIONS REQUIRE SAFETY REVIEWS FOR EACH NEW PERMIT. New technologies are constantly being developed and safety has to keep pace. It's not "oil at any cost." Human life and safety is a prime consideration. You should get that, Buster. And flaming serves no purpose.:rolleyes:
 
luv2read said:
So am I. For the last time. What's gone before DOES NOT MATTER. REGULATIONS REQUIRE SAFETY REVIEWS FOR EACH NEW PERMIT. New technologies are constantly being developed and safety has to keep pace. It's not "oil at any cost." Human life and safety is a prime consideration. You should get that, Buster. And flaming serves no purpose.:rolleyes:
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Don't point the accusing flaming finger at me..you shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house...with your Lil miss "I'm tired of rehashing this..." comment:suspicious:
 
WHOHOHOHO!!! This is the same kind of stuff that happens in DC when this comes up for a vote!!! Shall we agree to disagree, or call for a referendum?:o:D
 
Buster said:
Don't point the accusing flaming finger at me..you shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house...with your Lil miss "I'm tired of rehashing this..." comment:suspicious:
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Do you understand what FLAMING is?;)
I don't see anything remotely resembling it in any of my comments. I think it's best we agree to disagree and drop the subject.:)
 
Norm,

Don't worry, Buster and I are friends. This won't degenerate into hostility...just a friendly disagreement.;)

Buster...BTW...how did the new paint job on the Hummer turn out?
 
Everything turned out nicely..thanks for asking sweetie...Have a wonderful evening.

and folks..we are just messin around..we have nothing but love and admiration for each other.:)
 
Exxon to exit U.S. retail gas business
Exxon Mobil Corp is getting out of the retail gas business in the United States, citing the "very challenging" business conditions for its service stations. Exxon, the world's largest publicly traded oil company, said it will sell the roughly 2,220 service stations it still owns across the United States, including about 820 that it also operates. :suspicious:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080612/bs_nm/exxon_dc_2;_ylt=AjMdIrHAaqfNfVUZMT5LUvcE1vAI

Like I've said, pi$$ these guys off... and they'll take their business elsewhere; free from Government Attacks. I think more big oil will follow suit regarding gas in the future. Refineries could follow.
 
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Freddie? :D
luv2read said:
Do you understand what FLAMING is? ;)
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