Obama's Health Care Plan

[Steadygain]

Norm,

Sorry - and sorry to anyone else reading this Thread

Usually I'm multitasking when I get here and just saying things off the top without much thought .... so ignore a great deal of it.


ANYWAY - Just realized that TARP

and TORT are wholly different - but the TARP Amount was fresh...

my bad :embarrest:

 

[nnuut]

Not to change the Subject but I remember when Luv2read was trying to add up the TORT Money used for the Financial Sector

She came up with about $9 Trillion :worried:

Yesterday the real figure of $24 Trillion slipped out on the News Hour

To put that in perspective - if you rapidly patted your fingers on the desk from the time you woke up until you fell asleep and everytime a finger touched the desk it created $ 1 M dollars.

Doing this for 16 hours a day - you'd have to live 827 years 9 months 21 days 3 minutes and 17 seconds.

Man-O-Man that's a long time!! I'll bet it would take longer than that to get our Law Makers [Exlawyers] to consider REAL Tort Reform.:notrust:

 

[Steadygain]

TORT REFORM

Not to change the Subject but I remember when Luv2read was trying to add up the TORT Money used for the Financial Sector

She came up with about $9 Trillion :worried:

Yesterday the real figure of $24 Trillion slipped out on the News Hour

To put that in perspective - if you rapidly patted your fingers on the desk from the time you woke up until you fell asleep and everytime a finger touched the desk it created $ 1 M dollars.

Doing this for 16 hours a day - you'd have to live 827 years 9 months 21 days 3 minutes and 17 seconds.

 

[nnuut]

Oh YES it has been tried before and has failed. What they should do is CONTROL the one that we have. Start with TORT REFORM, everyone knows that Greedy Lawyers and People are driving prices sky high along with the Freebies that think they have the right to Free Health care even if they can afford to pay something. People that are destitute deserve help, but people that are here in the USA illegally should be helped in an emergency and then sent back to where they came from. The Price of Drugs is way out of hand. There is so much regulation controlling drug Manufacturing that it cost Billions, sometimes to develop new drugs, Yes they need to be controlled but COMON give me a break!! After a Drug Company gets back their initial cost for development, research, start up costs require them to lower the price to a reasonable level. YES Fix what we have, but in the mean time take them to the gates of the city and stone them to death, it's been done before!!

 

[Steadygain]

Here's my take:

The Health Care System is undoubted a HUGE MESS and something that desperately needs to be overhauled and redone in a far more effecient and superior manner.

ENTER POLITICS - AND HERE I COULD CARE LESS WHO IS PRESIDENT

But in this situation it's Obama - the Bottom Line in his (her) situation (as this would apply to anyone that is President now, before, or in the future) is PAINTING A GOOD PICTURE and LOOKING LIKE A HERO.

Is the PLAN as he projects it Messed Up??
It's very messed up and will likely lead to even greater problems down the line.

Has that ever made any difference so far?? NO IT HAS NOT - not to date at least. Everyone of them is 'screwed up with their self agenda'

Everyone of them is going to Make Their Stand - and do some garbage that just makes the heap of garbage bigger and bigger.

The problem is - The Screwed Up HEALTHCARE SYSTEM is undeniable and therefore 'That element of truth - gives the Politician room to do whatever the hell'

Get use to it folks - I don't care who it is

 

[OBGibby]

Looks like the party is starting to end for President Obama. Hopefully the health care will continue to trend downward until it finally just goes away...

 

[nnuut]

Obama has said that people making over $250,000 a year should have to pay more, and he defended his insistence on getting a bill from lawmakers before they leave next month on their summer recess. Asked why he felt so strongly about the timeline, he replied, "because if you don't set a deadline in this town, nothing happens."=

There are reasons for the rush:
1. Many law makers want to take the summer break and will be willing to rush it to get out for vacation.
2. If nobody noticed this is not in print like Hillary did during her try at Socialized Medicine. When the public read that Doctors and Citizens could be arrested for joining another health plan the Bill just died.
4. Law makers are taking a hit due the amendments and votes that have been called at 3 AM in the mornings.
3. If they wait someone is going to read this thing and it will be all over but the burning of the only copy.
I'm sure there are more

 

[nnuut]

Guess we'll all soon be walking around with color coded arm bands to discern how much money we make....................

A GREEN DOT on our foreheads would do the trick!! View attachment 6584

 

[Intrepid_Timer]

Guess we'll all soon be walking around with color coded arm bands to discern how much money we make....................

 

[tsptalk]

I think that people that make over $250,000 a year should (to be fair) pay $1.00 more a gallon [for gas]

That's where we are heading. Punish success

 

[nnuut]

An idea:
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=225597&postcount=6279

 

[nnuut]

Why can't every health care recipient of health care pay their share? Why do the wealthy (>$250,000 a year) have to pay more when they would receive the same service? This is Un-American if you ask me.
JMHO!!:suspicious:

Obama defends August deadline for health care bill

Obama denies he's pushing too hard on health care, says uninsured need help from Congress now

• By Erica Werner, Associated Press Writer
• On Tuesday July 21, 2009, 8:49 am EDT

WASHINGTON (AP) -- President Barack Obama is defending his relentless campaign for a health care bill before Congress's August recess, saying "the default in Washington is inaction and inertia." The Republican Party chairman assailed it as an "excessive push."

The fault lines in the debate emerging as Topic A in the capital remained intact Tuesday as Obama defended the deadline, saying the American people want the overhaul done quickly, and GOP Chairman Michael Steele demanded: "Take your time!"
At the same time, Obama remained noncommittal on a surtax to pay for the overhaul, which some experts have said could cost over $1 trillion in the next several years to reconstitute and incorporate some 46 million uninsured into the system. He did reiterate his opposition to taxing people's employer-provided health benefits, however.
The president noted in an interview on NBC's "Today" show that "the House has put forward a surtax." And he repeated his feeling that wealthier Americans, "such as myself," should pitch in and help reinvent the system to spread coverage to those now without it.
Obama has said that people making over $250,000 a year should have to pay more, and he defended his insistence on getting a bill from lawmakers before they leave next month on their summer recess. Asked why he felt so strongly about the timeline, he replied, "because if you don't set a deadline in this town, nothing happens." [more]
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Obama...21.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=2&asset=&ccode=