Obama Administration is financing oil exploration off Brazil.

[Valkyrie]

2 billion.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203863204574346610120524166.html

 

[nnuut]

"But it still doesn't allow the U.S. to explore in Alaska or along the East and West Coasts, which could be our equivalent of the Tupi oil fields, which are set to make Brazil a leading oil exporter. Americans are right to wonder why Mr. Obama is underwriting in Brazil what he won't allow at home".

Are they serious? This is a joke, let's pay Brazil and not ourselves, while Russia, China and Venezuela are right off the coast of Florida! How many ways can this guy find to screw UP?:nuts::nuts:

 

[Birchtree]

nnuut,

Didn't I tell you not to vote for that idiot. See what you've done.

 

[nnuut]

nnuut,

Didn't I tell you not to vote for that idiot. See what you've done.

"Are YOU talking to ME?" (Joe Pesci)View attachment 6688 Boy did you get that one wrong!! :laugh:

 

[Birchtree]

I got it wrong intentionally - now that was fun.

 

[nnuut]

I got it wrong intentionally - now that was fun.

I know!:laugh:

 

[CountryBoy]

"But it still doesn't allow the U.S. to explore in Alaska or along the East and West Coasts, which could be our equivalent of the Tupi oil fields, which are set to make Brazil a leading oil exporter. Americans are right to wonder why Mr. Obama is underwriting in Brazil what he won't allow at home".

Are they serious? This is a joke, let's pay Brazil and not ourselves, while Russia, China and Venezuela are right off the coast of Florida! How many ways can this guy find to screw UP?:nuts::nuts:

This is just another example of the result of the hate vote. The last hate vote got us Carter.

When will this crap end? 2010? We have a buffoon squatting in our House. I must read the Socialist mantra again. There has to be somethig in there that we musn't use our own resources, less people are put to work and actually make money. Oh wait, they want to keep us down and to redistribute what wealth we still have, so they can have complete control of our lifes. Next up is our ROTH's and 401 K's. When will the other half of the country wake up?

We are the joke of the world, except for maybe a few of his dictator bud's, but even Iran is giving him the cold shoulder.

One simple question...... why not drill off our coast with our money and our people and get off foreign oil? That obviously is not this clown's plan

CB

 

[Birchtree]

Shouldn't every minority at risk single female get a cola for her next illegitimate child? Well why the hell not. These are the future generations of the Democrat Party. They'll end up wearing brown shirts as part of the voluntary civilian peace makers. Sounds like Germany doesn't it. The good news is that Squeeky Fromme is now free.

 

[Silverbird]

No, it doesn't sound like Germany! We are not paying off reparations where our money is trucked around in wheelbarrows to buy bread, and our government (monarch for Germany) was not replaced by a "republic" completely under blockade. Oh, and we aren't planning to invade Canada. I'm assuming you are not talking about Germany today with a reference to brown shirts.

 

[Valkyrie]

didn't this marxist, campaign about keeping jobs in America? I guess he left out the word "South"

 

[Steadygain]

No, it doesn't sound like Germany! Oh, and we aren't planning to invade Canada.

Yet the overwhelming bulk of our taxes goes to Military Expenses and building the never ending war machine. What other country has been more actively going around the world over the last few decades using their 'soldiers' to control the populations????

What is obviously our 'biggest expense' if not WAR ?

Want to save money? Go to a strictly defensive mode and fight to the highest degree anyone crossing the borders to attack - otherwize pay off the debt and spend the minimum.

 

[Steadygain]

didn't this Marxist, campaign about keeping jobs in America? I guess he left out the word "South"

Thank you so much for making sure Marxist was with a Capital

What could warm our hearts more than the name of Marx ??

UTOPIA - this is everything he stood for.

It's lke Nervana man - the Ultimate Karma spreading everywhere and everyone being of one mind, one spirit, in perfect harmony

Ahhhhh if only what he thought could be - could actually exist

Kiss Kiss ---- Peace

 

[CountryBoy]

Yet the overwhelming bulk of our taxes goes to Military Expenses and building the never ending war machine. What other country has been more actively going around the world over the last few decades using their 'soldiers' to control the populations????

What is obviously our 'biggest expense' if not WAR ?

Want to save money? Go to a strictly defensive mode and fight to the highest degree anyone crossing the borders to attack - otherwize pay off the debt and spend the minimum.

Steady,

Agree with ya on pulling back on our defensive spending, as long as we're ready to except the consequences, but I believe Social Programs is a higher percentage of our budget and is going to be overwhelming bulk in the next decade or so. We have laws in place, very similiar to CA, that drive up social spending/cost automatically. That's why Cali is broke and going broker (is that a word).

CB

 

[Valkyrie]

Yet the overwhelming bulk of our taxes goes to Military Expenses and building the never ending war machine. What other country has been more actively going around the world over the last few decades using their 'soldiers' to control the populations????

What is obviously our 'biggest expense' if not WAR ?

Want to save money? Go to a strictly defensive mode and fight to the highest degree anyone crossing the borders to attack - otherwize pay off the debt and spend the minimum.

http://www.federalbudget.com/

 

[Steadygain]

Steady,

That's why Cali is broke and going broker (is that a word).

CB

Hell ... I'm just screwing around CB :cheesy:

but I know I'd get my ass kicked with you :blink:

It would be really hard for YOU - of all people - to identify with this but sometimes I just get in the mood to push a few buttons and let the s*#* hit the fan. :laugh:

Anyway it's strange you should mention California because it is presently the 6th Biggest Growing Economy in the whole world - exceeding many Countries. In all sincerity that's the problem with the American Media and what it purposely tries to represent. You would find this hard to believe because you think all Politicians and Politics in general are so 'Solid and True'

But you're wrong CB, and I hate to be the one to burst your bubble but in all seriousness it all a bunch of crap.

Anyway - Yes it is a word.

Broke: What happens to someone who does not follow Birchtree's advise

Broker: The one who aggressively manages money (Birchtree)

Have a great night everyone .....

heading home at last

 

[ChemEng]

"But it still doesn't allow the U.S. to explore in Alaska or along the East and West Coasts, which could be our equivalent of the Tupi oil fields, which are set to make Brazil a leading oil exporter. Americans are right to wonder why Mr. Obama is underwriting in Brazil what he won't allow at home".

I must read the word "could" much differently than you do.

 

[nnuut]

I must read the word "could" much differently than you do.

We could if they would, DRILL DRILL DRILL, that should be obvious by now. Where do you think we are headed, to everything green and Rosy. NOT!!

 

[Steadygain]

We could if they would, DRILL DRILL DRILL, that should be obvious by now. Where do you think we are headed, to everything green and Rosy. NOT!!

We don't have to remain as dependent on 'fossil fuels' as we have been throughout the past hundred years. The Industrial Revelution largely brought this into existence.

The main problem is our society has been built on 'cheap oil' and very few had the insight to see that over time it would get expensive. This is why the standard 'large homes' will be abandoned over time - without some fundamental changes.

ENTER WIND ENERGY - here I'm not talking about the individual windmill or even the huge windmill farms - each of which can supply the energy needs for 35,000 homes.

I am talking about a WIND SYSTEM that each unit would supply the energy needs for 100,000 homes. This is already in place. It is based on huge kites that fly 6 miles up in the sky - where the wind is constantly steady and fairly strong.

The Ocean itself is composed of various layers with some moving at substantially higher speeds. People simply need to think outside the box to utilize what is available.

Lastly 'Solar Energy' more than supplies the collective energy needs of everyone on the planet - if only people would get their heads together.

I have no problem with more Drilling - so long as the OIL INDUSTRIES and those with Power and In Control are not only 'willing' BUT openly pushing for 'Superior Energy Sources' that are 'Planet Friendly' and remain an unending resource.

So from my perspective - we remain in the Dark Ages using methods that destroy our Planet and become increasing expensive OR we move on to something far better.

 

[Birchtree]

Why can't we utilize our ingenuity and develope a system that allows cars to run on urine. Then when the car is low on urine you simply pull over and micturate in the tank. If you are female you can overcome any difficulty by keeping an extra empty 2 liter pepsi bottle in the trunk. It all sounds reasonable to me. If you are on a major turnpike just pull off into one of the rest stops.

 

[Silverbird]

Well...Birch...unfortunately the driver isn't going to produce enough fuel. Drinking more water will only make things more watery.:cheesy:
But on a more serious note, Methane, which is produced from garbage and er...other waste products is possible as a substitute, it's just *very very* volitile. The whole system of gas/fuel hauling, piping, distribution; and also car gas tanks would have to go through major changes.

Plus, not sure if it has the same problem as Natural Gas that you need Platinum or one of it's by-products to line the tank - platinum is not found in friendly countries, largest mined reserves are in good ole' Russia that likes to cut off natural gas to Europe when they are in a tizzy.