May this be The LAST

well it's good to see at least chivalry is not dead.

with all the folks falling all over themselves to take the blame there's so many feet in the air it's like a game of twister, 'cept y'all still got you clothes on. what kinda party is this anyway?

like the pilot said, pick yourselfs up off the floor and let's make some money.
 
Steadygain said:
Now you say you literally saved her life? There is no risk in saying that afterwards.

Again – I ask you to please let this be the very last communication you have with me. If I am NOT Banned from the TSP site then I will make this message my very LAST and will never return.

My response was entirely based on what I believed you told me; that people in general had no spirit of ‘celebration’ ‘acceptance’ ‘love and appreciation’ that Lady was alive. The ‘feelings’ were not anything that would even remotely GIVE HER LIFE but were totally the opposite; and geared towards destruction. PLEASE KNOW this is my last message and I do not want you to communicate with me anymore. If anyone would ever want to attack ‘Her Life’ and anything to do with her – then let it ALL fall on me – that GOD MAY RECEIVE THE GLORY.

Everything I have made known points to GOD – and what only GOD could do. If I am ‘convinced’ that GOD has done a mighty work and through ‘This Work’ GOD MAKES HIS GLORY KNOWN – then I will do all things to further His GLORY.

Let this be the greatest lesson I could ever possibly make known to you. If GOD would ever use your LIFE to do a Mighty WORK then you must do all things possible to stand behind that WORK. When others attack this WORK (and They will always do this) and all the more when they reject you and despise you and display ‘bitterness’ towards that WORK then you must do everything possible to acknowledge this WORK and make His Glory known. Anything others throw at YOU when GOD does any WORK through you will be used to let you know HIM more fully and do even Greater WORKS. This must be how we live our lives and the basis of all we could possibly do. GOD will turn everything others throw against you for HIS GLORY and everything will be done for you to know HIM more and to be more prepared to serve HIM better.

There has been no independent confirmation of what happened to her. there can't be. there were no witnesses. Jesus healed people, He didn't claim his power after the healing had already happened, He claimed it before the healing happened, in front of witnesses and it was the witnesses who verified he had done the healing he said he would do. Jesus did not leave anyone confused about what had really happened and He didn't make a big fuss about it either.

Please forgive me for being the MAN I am and for doing anything to mess up what was meant to be totally for God’s Glory. Again, this is MY LAST and I will not return. 1. Lady was led by God to contact me. It is GOD who gets all praise and glory for He is full of Grace and Mercy. Out of the abundance of His PERFECT LOVE – HE led her to contact me. 2. God made known to me the severity of her condition and that I was called to intervene. 3. I responded ‘openly’ for all to know because I knew God had given me an opportunity to make HIS GLORY known. It is for HIS GLORY that everything was done. It would have made ‘no difference’ to me if Lady did remain with GOD – and we never had a witness. None of those things matter to me; the only thing that matters to me is that I live my life in such a way that if GOD would ever give me the opportunity to MAKE HIS GLORY KNOWN and to share in HIS GLORY – then that alone is all I live for.

That is it, it is over, and I am done.

God did something wonderful in you. I believe that.

GOD gave me the opportunity to MAKE HIS GLORY KNOWN and to share in HIS GLORY – that is it and that is all I live for.

Nobody knows if it had anything to do with you.

I know what GOD alone could do and that HE allowed me to receive this Honor caused ‘something wonderful’ in me.

If she could confirm what you said, then some could believe.

Please forgive me for doing anything to remotely take from His Glory. I had never had an opportunity like this before and so I’m sure in numerous ways I should have done things different. For what I believed God had laid in my Life – I had to believe I was meant to make it known.

perhaps soon, you with someone deeply trained in psychiatry. I think you need that. I'm concerned.

Thank you! I have but one life to live and I will do all things possible to live it for GOD’s GLORY.

The ‘Human Side’ of me has very much made itself known in all its miserable and deeply flawed traits; and yesterday was perhaps the all time high. I am ‘human’ – I am a MAN that is deeply flawed and I already know that whatever ‘good’ in me can exist – is there because of HIM.

If GOD exists then I have to live my life for HIM.

If GOD is anything like I have come to know then there is nothing more important than HIS GLORY and only through HIS GLORY – can I possibly make known the reality of His GRACE and LOVE. I tell you from the deepest depths of my life and all I could ever find is TRUE; when GOD brings an opportunity of this ‘magnitude’ to reveal HIS GLORY then it is done for several reasons. ALWAYS and most importantly it is done to make HIS GLORY KNOWN. Therefore I made it clear to all. ALWAYS it is done to stretch you further and you have to find a FAITH and STRENGTH beyond what you have ever known before IN ORDER to LIVE in this GLORY and to fulfill what GOD desires. There is no way possible you can do this without a TRANSFORMATION and it is through this you find GOD in an even greater manner and Your LIFE is changed for the better. ALWAYS it is done to finish the ‘Season’ you are in – and that above everything else is why this is my Last.

If God does not exist – then I die and that’s the end.

If God, as I know HIM, does exist then I live for His GLORY – and my life is ‘Blessed’ and ‘Overflowing’.

Goodbye my friend, and goodbye to all.

For anything I have done to offend anyone in any manner – please forgive me for my ever present ‘flawed’ condition.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-ZqYJRu0do

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJQVlVHsFF8
 
Enough said on this subject.

The Phoenix has risen from the ashes.

Reopen Lady's thread and let's get back to making money.
 
Ok, this is almost becoming humorous, even tho its not and never will be. Here I am arguing with Lady about how to look at things. something many people may not know.....

The "left her with God" phraseology is evangelical-speak for leaving a matter in Gods hands when you've done everything possible humanly speaking, prayer from the heart along with everything practical, to affect the outcome of a situation or a person's fate any further. The phrase used that way, doesn't mean the person they're referring to died.

I used to talk that way too but it's been too long since I hung out with evangelicals routinely. My everyday friends these days are mainstream protestant or Catholic, they don't talk that way. I'd forgotten evangelicals do. du-oh. headslap. hope that makes it clearer how I got things so wrong between him and me on that one, and why I say I misunderstood.
 
Steadygain said:
I could believe the willingness, not the literalness.

do you think He uses the LIFE within that Body?

I am NOTHING and GOD is EVERYTHING. Show me anyone that more gave their LIFE for her; that had more FAITH in what GOD could do and that more TRUSTED GOD to do it.

First you told me she died and you were with her in spirit when it happened.

No dear woman, you are hugely confused.

My GOAL was to bring her into the Presence of GOD and so that ‘They could decide what to do’. It could NEVER be my decision as whether she would be restored in her Body and continue LIFE here, or whether she would leave the Body and remain with GOD.

I only knew that I took her as far as I could get. That is everything that I wholly set out to do with the greatest extent of Faith that I could find; I believe this allowed my LIFE to reach a final destination and I believe with all my heart that her LIFE was left in His Presence.

Then GOD sent me back and whatever I could possibly do was over and I returned and went to sleep.

I believe the ‘Contentment’ GOD gave me ‘Confirmed’ I had accomplished all I had set out to do – and ultimately that was to deliver her over to HIM. So yes, I thought she remained with HIM; but I did not know and I should only have stated that GOD did a WORK but I don’t know the end result.

If ANYTHING happened as a result of anything remotely connected to my LIFE then GOD and only GOD used what Life I gave FOR HIS GLORY.


What I ultimately want to make known is that if GOD did a mighty work on her behalf and she LIVES to reveal His GLORY then let all these things fall on the Life GOD used.

This is all I could ever hope to do and all that matters to me.

I would a million times over rather be hated, rejected, despised, and misunderstood in every Negative sense imaginable and totally give my Life for His Glory and allow GOD to work in me and do ‘wonders’ through me and HAVE the LIFE God gives me; than to live any other way.

What I offered up to GOD was done in the purest LOVE and a LOVE that I could only know through HIM.

The FAITH that I have in God and the HOPE and PROMISE in all things I have found in HIM are totally though His Spirit of GRACE alive in me.

If I live for anything I live to make His Glory known and to show that a MAN that is human in every imaginable manner, that is flawed and NOTHING within himself – can be used as a ‘vessel’ for God’s GLORY.
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Well, for the first time since this all happened, I finally realize where the problem started. It was with me. Steady told me he "left her with God" and went to sleep. I took that to mean she had not survived and was "with God" now. My fault. mine alone for how this huge chain of events came to pass. I did not ask for clarification of what he meant when he said that, and took it to mean something other than what he really meant. It's not the first time that has happened between him and me.

I should have asked for clarification of what he meant by him "leaving her with God". I didn't. I could have, he reminded me today of what he actually said at the time, which I did not recall. I could have taken it the way he meant it to be understood, but my mind works too literally all too often, and I was already fearful of hearing bad news and was predisposed to hearing that kind of news and didn't question what I thought I had heard and did not ask him if that was what he really meant. That is entirely my fault.

I did not realize that til today. I deleted the original message weeks ago so could not even go back and re-read what he had actually said. From everything he said today, this whole mess started with me, not him. His intentions were the highest and still are, and his faith is far deeper and richer than mine.

there was no intent on anyone's part for this monster misunderstanding to happen, but it did. My deepest apologies to all who were impacted, Steady was and is innocent of all the hurt and pain that resulted from what he told me that I so horribly misunderstood and passed on in error to the mb. It snowballed from there, and Lady's explanation of what happened from her standpoint is also entirely true.
 
Steady, remember...

"One love, one heart
Let's get together and feel all right
Hear the children crying (One love)
Hear the children crying (One heart)
Sayin', "Give thanks and praise to the Lord and I will feel all right."
Sayin', "Let's get together and feel all right."
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa

Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?
Believe me

One love, one heart
Let's get together and feel all right
As it was in the beginning (One love)
So shall it be in the end (One heart)
Alright, "Give thanks and praise to the Lord and I will feel all right."
"Let's get together and feel all right."
One more thing

Let's get together to fight this Holy Armageddon (One love)
So when the Man comes there will be no, no doom (One song)
Have pity on those whose chances grow thinner
There ain't no hiding place from the Father of Creation

Sayin', "One love, one heart
Let's get together and feel all right."
I'm pleading to mankind (One love)
Oh, Lord (One heart) Whoa.

"Give thanks and praise to the Lord and I will feel all right."
Let's get together and feel all right.
(Repeat)"

Don't go. Please...
 
Steady,

There is no need for you to leave - you are part of what makes the world go around. Besides your job is not done - I'm still a heathen. And as your older brother I deserve attention to be lifted up. So give the current situation some further consideration and thought - this is not the last supper by any means. I've come to rely on your commentary and no one comforts me like you do when I'm brought to tears. Tears of the sun need a little rain now and then - so slow down and take a few days to form your opinion. This stress will pass. Besides, I was so counting on you to be around to write my eulogy when my time arrives. Now if I can just figure out who that humming bird was.
 
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Please let Lady know I was more than willing and wanting to give my life for her. I did every possible to make that happen and I went before GOD with all I had and gave everything possible on her behalf.

I hope you the best; I hope you find the greatest and most perfect happiness possible.

You did tell everyone more clearly today than you did before, what you now believe you did for her.

I have made it known from the first moment that it is GOD’s POWER and GLORY that are capable of doing anything. That all I could do was Give my Life to HIM on her behalf.

I did not hear you say previously that you believe you saved her life literally. Not until today.

I only KNOW that something very HUGE happened to me when I gave my LIFE for her. I know that GOD alone could have taken any trace of Negative Energy and allowed me the total FREEDOM to love my brother and regard him as I did when I was with him and as I do now.

None of this happened until I gave my life over on her behalf. WHY? Because I believe with GOD all things are possible. WHY? Because I willingly and longingly gave all I could in total FAITH and TRUST that GOD would use my life to the fullest extent and all the more to take me in her place.

I thought you meant that you reached a state of genuine willingness to give your life,

I reached that state almost as soon as I got her letter.

not that you gave your life literally and that you and are the only reason she's alive and still with us.

I am NOT the REASON. GOD ALONE could have used my Life as He saw fit.

GOD is the ONE who gives me the FAITH to allow His Power to work in me. Everything – in every way – goes to GOD.

I do NOT know of anyone, besides me that offered their LIFE over to GOD on her behalf and anyone more determined to allow GOD to use their LIFE to the fullest extent for her benifit.
 
I could believe the willingness, not the literalness.

I’m sorry you misunderstand but it’s probably ‘my fault’ so we can blame me for the ‘failure’.

We can also let this be our last communication, least I clutter your life any more than I already have.

Let me tell you, a willingness to open your heart and life to GOD in the fullest possible measure and with all the FAITH you can give allows His Power to ‘Literally’ do far beyond what you could even imagine.

The manner in which I went to GOD and gave my LIFE to HIM – LET GOD ‘literally’ use it as only GOD could do.

You are alive, and haven't stopped living, no matter how willing you were for that to happen. Attitudewise, perhaps you've experienced a reset, but biologically no.

Do you not realize that the body is nothing more than a piece of clay and that the LIFE within the body is the only thing that matters?

Do you believe that GOD uses the Body (a simple clay jar) to work in ways to make His Glory known or do you think He uses the LIFE within that Body?

I am NOTHING and GOD is EVERYTHING. Show me anyone that more gave their LIFE for her; that had more FAITH in what GOD could do and that more TRUSTED GOD to do it.

First you told me she died and you were with her in spirit when it happened.

No dear woman, you are hugely confused.

I believe that GOD brought STRENGTH and LIFE to her in ever greater abundance and that she LONGED to come to LIFE and that she came to LIFE in the most powerful way imaginable.

YES – I do believe I experienced all of this FIRST HAND – as a result of my sacrifice for her and that GOD did allow ‘my LIFE’ to be a very central and meaningful part of this process.

My GOAL was to bring her into the Presence of GOD and so that ‘They could decide what to do’. It could NEVER be my decision as whether she would be restored in her Body and continue LIFE here, or whether she would leave the Body and remain with GOD.

I only knew that I took her as far as I could get. That is everything that I wholly set out to do with the greatest extent of Faith that I could find; I believe this allowed my LIFE to reach a final destination and I believe with all my heart that her LIFE was left in His Presence.

Then GOD sent me back and whatever I could possibly do was over and I returned and went to sleep.

I believe the ‘Contentment’ GOD gave me ‘Confirmed’ I had accomplished all I had set out to do – and ultimately that was to deliver her over to HIM. So yes, I thought she remained with HIM; but I did not know and I should only have stated that GOD did a WORK but I don’t know the end result.

Then after I told you she was alive, you decided it must have been strictly an internal experience God did between you and Him for your benefit and that she lived, but not because of anything you did.

Sweet friend, please let this be our very last communication.

I tell you in the deepest sincerity that I have no place on that Site; and I would NEVER do anything to dishonor Lady.

If GOD did what I believe HE did then whatever HE could have accomplished in my LIFE for HIS GLORY has been done. My Season is over and to Him be all Praise and Glory.

I know what GOD did in me because of both my ‘willingness’ to give my life on her behalf; and all the more as a direct result of all I most certainly did give over to HIM wholly for her benefit.

In all due respect, the feelings others have towards me has no bearing on what His Spirit can do, and the way I will live my life. In no manner would I ever try to take from GOD because I (myself) am but a piece of garbage. If ANYTHING happened as a result of anything remotely connected to my LIFE then GOD and only GOD used what Life I gave FOR HIS GLORY.

So please don’t misunderstand. If I would ever be led to believe that others are attacking her, and are angry at her because she ‘lives’ or if there is any kind of bitterness or any trace of Judgment or Condemnation concerning her – then let it fall on me.

What I ultimately want to make known is that if GOD did a mighty work on her behalf and she LIVES to reveal His GLORY then let all these things fall on the Life GOD used.

This is all I could ever hope to do and all that matters to me.

I would a million times over rather be hated, rejected, despised, and misunderstood in every Negative sense imaginable and totally give my Life for His Glory and allow GOD to work in me and do ‘wonders’ through me and HAVE the LIFE God gives me; than to live any other way.

What I offered up to GOD was done in the purest LOVE and a LOVE that I could only know through HIM.

The FAITH that I have in God and the HOPE and PROMISE in all things I have found in HIM are totally though His Spirit of GRACE alive in me.

If I live for anything I live to make His Glory known and to show that a MAN that is human in every imaginable manner, that is flawed and NOTHING within himself – can be used as a ‘vessel’ for God’s GLORY.
 
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Now you say you literally saved her life? There is no risk in saying that afterwards.

Again – I ask you to please let this be the very last communication you have with me. If I am NOT Banned from the TSP site then I will make this message my very LAST and will never return.

My response was entirely based on what I believed you told me; that people in general had no spirit of ‘celebration’ ‘acceptance’ ‘love and appreciation’ that Lady was alive. The ‘feelings’ were not anything that would even remotely GIVE HER LIFE but were totally the opposite; and geared towards destruction. PLEASE KNOW this is my last message and I do not want you to communicate with me anymore. If anyone would ever want to attack ‘Her Life’ and anything to do with her – then let it ALL fall on me – that GOD MAY RECEIVE THE GLORY.

Everything I have made known points to GOD – and what only GOD could do. If I am ‘convinced’ that GOD has done a mighty work and through ‘This Work’ GOD MAKES HIS GLORY KNOWN – then I will do all things to further His GLORY.

Let this be the greatest lesson I could ever possibly make known to you. If GOD would ever use your LIFE to do a Mighty WORK then you must do all things possible to stand behind that WORK. When others attack this WORK (and They will always do this) and all the more when they reject you and despise you and display ‘bitterness’ towards that WORK then you must do everything possible to acknowledge this WORK and make His Glory known. Anything others throw at YOU when GOD does any WORK through you will be used to let you know HIM more fully and do even Greater WORKS. This must be how we live our lives and the basis of all we could possibly do. GOD will turn everything others throw against you for HIS GLORY and everything will be done for you to know HIM more and to be more prepared to serve HIM better.

There has been no independent confirmation of what happened to her. there can't be. there were no witnesses. Jesus healed people, He didn't claim his power after the healing had already happened, He claimed it before the healing happened, in front of witnesses and it was the witnesses who verified he had done the healing he said he would do. Jesus did not leave anyone confused about what had really happened and He didn't make a big fuss about it either.

Please forgive me for being the MAN I am and for doing anything to mess up what was meant to be totally for God’s Glory. Again, this is MY LAST and I will not return. 1. Lady was led by God to contact me. It is GOD who gets all praise and glory for He is full of Grace and Mercy. Out of the abundance of His PERFECT LOVE – HE led her to contact me. 2. God made known to me the severity of her condition and that I was called to intervene. 3. I responded ‘openly’ for all to know because I knew God had given me an opportunity to make HIS GLORY known. It is for HIS GLORY that everything was done. It would have made ‘no difference’ to me if Lady did remain with GOD – and we never had a witness. None of those things matter to me; the only thing that matters to me is that I live my life in such a way that if GOD would ever give me the opportunity to MAKE HIS GLORY KNOWN and to share in HIS GLORY – then that alone is all I live for.

That is it, it is over, and I am done.

God did something wonderful in you. I believe that.

GOD gave me the opportunity to MAKE HIS GLORY KNOWN and to share in HIS GLORY – that is it and that is all I live for.

Nobody knows if it had anything to do with you.

I know what GOD alone could do and that HE allowed me to receive this Honor caused ‘something wonderful’ in me.

If she could confirm what you said, then some could believe.

Please forgive me for doing anything to remotely take from His Glory. I had never had an opportunity like this before and so I’m sure in numerous ways I should have done things different. For what I believed God had laid in my Life – I had to believe I was meant to make it known.

perhaps soon, you with someone deeply trained in psychiatry. I think you need that. I'm concerned.

Thank you! I have but one life to live and I will do all things possible to live it for GOD’s GLORY.

The ‘Human Side’ of me has very much made itself known in all its miserable and deeply flawed traits; and yesterday was perhaps the all time high. I am ‘human’ – I am a MAN that is deeply flawed and I already know that whatever ‘good’ in me can exist – is there because of HIM.

If GOD exists then I have to live my life for HIM.

If GOD is anything like I have come to know then there is nothing more important than HIS GLORY and only through HIS GLORY – can I possibly make known the reality of His GRACE and LOVE. I tell you from the deepest depths of my life and all I could ever find is TRUE; when GOD brings an opportunity of this ‘magnitude’ to reveal HIS GLORY then it is done for several reasons. ALWAYS and most importantly it is done to make HIS GLORY KNOWN. Therefore I made it clear to all. ALWAYS it is done to stretch you further and you have to find a FAITH and STRENGTH beyond what you have ever known before IN ORDER to LIVE in this GLORY and to fulfill what GOD desires. There is no way possible you can do this without a TRANSFORMATION and it is through this you find GOD in an even greater manner and Your LIFE is changed for the better. ALWAYS it is done to finish the ‘Season’ you are in – and that above everything else is why this is my Last.

If God does not exist – then I die and that’s the end.

If God, as I know HIM, does exist then I live for His GLORY – and my life is ‘Blessed’ and ‘Overflowing’.

Goodbye my friend, and goodbye to all.

For anything I have done to offend anyone in any manner – please forgive me for my ever present ‘flawed’ condition.
 
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