Let your voice be heard!

Ooo, Ooo, I got a FIX...
It's easy too!!!
  1. Just approve the Ryan Plan in the Senate and have the President sign it. It is the ONLY budget out there.
  2. Once the budget is signed than approve a debt limit that fits it.

or, if fulfilling a Constitutional requirement is too difficult here is another FIX:
  1. Just approve a Constitutional Amendment requiring a balanced budget.
  2. Once a balanced budget is signed than approve a debt limit that fits it.
Yuk, yuk, hardee har...
 
James48843 said:
...Here is how you FIX IT.
...And this is how simple it is to fix it.
There is no reason why you have to include spending cuts at all in that legislation. You can "FIX IT" by raising the ceiling, and then, in a REASONABLE FASHION, you can work on putting together a COMPROMISE bill for spending reductions for 2012.
See? IT IS THAT EASY-
NOW-- GO FIX IT!
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Actually, there is an easier way: just replay then Senator Obama and S. Jackson's rhetoric from 2006 when President Bush wanted to raise the ceiling.
He gave in ... so if the words were true then with a much smaller amount of money involved, why not use that same play now?
-why would those factors NOT be as true today as when Senator Obama spoke them back then?

- same with Jackson's claim today it is purely a racial addendum against President Obama; that then is indicative of her's & our President's
purely racial thoughts back then against the white president at that time ...
 
SteelMagnolia,

Buffett has a great idea. I came up with one a while ago.

  • Have all Federal Elected Officers (Representatives, Senators, Vice President, President) have their salaries garnered by $1,000 for every $1,000,000,000 of annual deficit.
  • Conversely, increase the salary of those selfsame personnel by $1,000 for every $1,000,000,000 of annual surplus.

Me thinks only the exceptionally patriotic spenders will continue on this yellow brick road:cheesy:.
 
Warren Buffett suggested on CNBC's Squawk Box on July 7: "I could end the deficit in five minutes. You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than three percent of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for reelection."

So raise the debt ceiling to provide a stop-gap to avoid default and then MAKE Congress pass this law, because they are never going to do it on their own. Then they'll quit the partisan stupidity and get down to the real work that is needed to fix the problem. My opinion for how to fix it, FWIW.
 
Re: Debt Limit Analysis: Bipartisan Policy Center

I guess the electorate should be forgiven for being confused. A trillion? Is that like a gazillion that the man with the hedge clippers has? I just heard a gent on a Fox show say that taking another Trillion savings out of the economy now will be disastrous. Does he understand the context of 10 years and 40 trillion and that, besides, all the savings are in 2075? And converted to RMB?
 
Re: Debt Limit Analysis: Bipartisan Policy Center

James48843 said:
And this is how simple it is to fix it.
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Moody's: Neither debt plan protects the nation's AAA rating

"Reductions of the magnitude now being proposed, if adopted, would likely lead Moody's to adopt a negative outlook on the AAA rating," the credit rating agency said in a new report. "The chances of a significant improvement in the long-term credit profile of the government coming from deficit reductions of the magnitude proposed in either plan are not high."
 
Warrenlm said:
After listening to the Meet the Press exchange by the former MN governor and a freshmen US Representative (Tea Party backed...oh those bad bad Tea Party extremists) where the Rep made his case and the Gov responded that the Tea Party misread their mandate and said we need more investments for jobs, I shook my head.

There is no doubt that the American exceptional experiment's future (short in the context of history) is going to be bent by two things: the gullible electorate, sound bited and manipulated by the media and democrats, and the bankers, who determine the annual minimum payment and the credit limit. I remember a cabbie telling me of the crisis he faced because he missed one cc payment and the minimum monthly payment went higher than he could afford, unless the government helped him out. I thought about asking if he meant the Chinese government......
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Yikes! You must be on the other side of the mirror.
 
After listening to the Meet the Press exchange by the former MN governor and a freshmen US Representative (Tea Party backed...oh those bad bad Tea Party extremists) where the Rep made his case and the Gov responded that the Tea Party misread their mandate and said we need more investments for jobs, I shook my head.

There is no doubt that the American exceptional experiment's future (short in the context of history) is going to be bent by two things: the gullible electorate, sound bited and manipulated by the media and democrats, and the bankers, who determine the annual minimum payment and the credit limit. I remember a cabbie telling me of the crisis he faced because he missed one cc payment and the minimum monthly payment went higher than he could afford, unless the government helped him out. I thought about asking if he meant the Chinese government......
 
James48843 said:
”Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United
States of America in Congress assembled, That subsection (b) of section
3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the
dollar limitation contained in such subsection and inserting in lieu
thereof $20,000,000,000,000.”
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I agree, 45 words and it's that simple. I'll trade you 4 more years of the current administration to change one digit of your proposal.

I bet we can name that tune in $10,000,000,000,000. That's only 4.3 tril short of where we are now. Average out over the remaining 6 years of the newly reinstalled dynasty and we only have to pay back ~700 bil a year.

Now before everybody gets all up in arms, consider this, congress managed to cough 700 bil out their hindends in a matter of days not too far back, so it can be done, the money is out there somewhere.

What is annual revenue? How much would we have left over to spend each year? What kind of budget cuts would that take? Spread the shortfall evenly across all fed expenditures.

Nothing wrong with potatoes when you're hungry, plus you can recycle the packaging, trust me your honey will look great wearing a burlap sack.
 
clester said:
Pointing a gun at our heads and saying agree with me or I'll shoot won't work.
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Seems to me it's working just fine. Unfortunately that seems to be the only message the spend-happy congress critters understand.

When in Rome...
 
Steel_Magnolia said:
No matter what your opinion is in this debt crisis, I urge you to let your voice be heard. Please take a moment to phone your Senators and Congressmen and tell them what you think.

If you are unsure of the contacts, you can find the phone numbers here:

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml



http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

I recommend that you write out your message so that you can remember to specify that you live in their voting district and to keep your message short. Here is a format that I was given a long time back and that I use when calling, just to give you an idea. You can, of course, use whatever format and wording you choose.

"Hello, My name is <state first and last name> and I live in <city>, <county>, <state>. I strongly urge Congressman/Senator <last name> to vote yes/no on any and all options that will preserve the full faith and credit of this country. Thank you."

Call and leave a message for them this weekend. Let them know you care about this vital issue!

My thanks,
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I hate to be "Debbie downer" but it won't make a bit of difference. They really don't care. They think they know what's best and will spin it to agree with their opinion.

The system is broken. I don't agree with TEA party ideal but at least they are trying to change it. The methods they are using are wrong. Pointing a gun at our heads and saying agree with me or I'll shoot won't work.

The only real voice is to vote and that's not much. They're all the same.
 
Whew, that's done. We can doze for 4 more years. Then the bankers will tell us what to cut. Like Rothschild did. How simple some worlds are.
 
Warrenlm said:
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Seems that specific direction is needed. I heard of a caller Friday that said "My message is 'just fix it.' Did you get that? Did you write it down? I want you to fix it. Goodbye." And she hung up very satisfied that her Representative now knew exactly what to do and she had effectively communicated her will.
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Here- let me "'splain it to you" on what she meant.

Here is how you FIX IT.

Currently, the debt limit is set by this legislation:

Public Law 111-139
111th Congress
Joint Resolution

”Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United
States of America in Congress assembled, That subsection (b) of section
3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the
dollar limitation contained in such subsection and inserting in lieu
thereof $14,294,000,000,000.”
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There’s a bunch of other stuff tacked on but this is the meat of the legislation.


And this is how simple it is to fix it.

”Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United
States of America in Congress assembled, That subsection (b) of section
3101 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by striking out the
dollar limitation contained in such subsection and inserting in lieu
thereof $20,000,000,000,000.”
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Fourty-five words, more or less. And that will stop the roughly 5% loss of the Stock Market this past week. And the drubbing that the markets are going to take next week.

There is no reason why you have to include spending cuts at all in that legislation. You can "FIX IT" by raising the ceiling, and then, in a REASONABLE FASHION, you can work on putting together a COMPROMISE bill for spending reductions for 2012.

See? IT IS THAT EASY-

NOW-- GO FIX IT!
 
I strongly urge Congressman/Senator <last name> to vote yes/no on any and all options that will preserve the full faith and credit of this country
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Will yours understand this? Seems that everyone has an option to "preserve the full faith and credit." Like, cut big in 2012 and every subsequent year in order to reduce the curve so bond markets see retention of USD strength, or, preserve current medicare cost projections and find the money through savings or increases in taxes, or find a way to gloss over the problem and kick the can for a short (or long) time, or....

Seems that specific direction is needed. I heard of a caller Friday that said "My message is 'just fix it.' Did you get that? Did you write it down? I want you to fix it. Goodbye." And she hung up very satisfied that her Representative now knew exactly what to do and she had effectively communicated her will.
 
Steel_Magnolia

Steel_Magnolia

Member
No matter what your opinion is in this debt crisis, I urge you to let your voice be heard. Please take a moment to phone your Senators and Congressmen and tell them what you think.

If you are unsure of the contacts, you can find the phone numbers here:

https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

I recommend that you write out your message so that you can remember to specify that you live in their voting district and to keep your message short. Here is a format that I was given a long time back and that I use when calling, just to give you an idea. You can, of course, use whatever format and wording you choose.

"Hello, My name is <state first and last name> and I live in <city>, <county>, <state>. I strongly urge Congressman/Senator <last name> to vote yes/no on any and all options that will preserve the full faith and credit of this country. Thank you."

Call and leave a message for them this weekend. Let them know you care about this vital issue!

My thanks,
 
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