Korea heating up

[Sensei]

if they want nukes so bad we should send them a few. I'm sure nobody would miss north korea if they're wiped off the map

I'm not so sure the South Koreans would agree with you.

 

[law87]

Guys, its all talk... well either that or they are really dumb. Who in their right mind would do all these things and tell the opponent their tactic...its like a boxer going to a match and he tell his opponent what he is going to do "hey watch out I'm going to jab you"

they are obviously dying for attention and some aids that is why they are threatening countries.

 

[law87]

I'm not so sure the South Koreans would agree with you.

I agree the radioactive would affect S. Korea and neighboring country. Tomahawk should do the trick.

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

 

[nnuut]

Young UN has to prove himself to the people, they do this, it's a tradition. The dummy is playing with fire for political purposes he may get what he needs instead?

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[k0nkuzh0n]

Guys, its all talk... well either that or they are really dumb. Who in their right mind would do all these things and tell the opponent their tactic...its like a boxer going to a match and he tell his opponent what he is going to do "hey watch out I'm going to jab you"

they are obviously dying for attention and some aids that is why they are threatening countries.

I would say its more like a boxer saying "Im going to punch you in the mouth, back off"
From there the decision tree starts:
Option 1: Call it a bluff, and instigate with a dare... and you get punched in the mouth.
Option 2: Take a step back... and you don't get punched in the mouth.

 

[WorkFE]

NK is such a closed and isolated Nation. There are so many unknown varialbes, atleast to the general population.
1. Do they have a working dilverable nuke. (Changes everything)
2. Does their beef with the US and SK have lines in the sand or do they have a Us against the world mentality.
3. Whom, within NK, is pulling the strings. Military is dangerous, civilian hiararchy is bluster.
4. Is China truly pissed off at their neighbor or is it just show. China may not want to deal with mass run on their border but they enjoy the buffer that NK provides.
5. What is the mind set of Russia, Japan and to a lesser degree all of the Asian Nations in the South China Sea or whatever we are calling it now.

In any event the rhetoric is at high levels and I hope there is behind the scenes talk going on, of which I am certain.

 

[Frixxxx]

I've been on the lines in the R.O.K. enough times since 1990. I've seen this posture too many times to count.

I think China stopped talking to them after the last missile test and they need food.

Since we support no efforts directly or through the UN, this crap gets our attention. Kim Jong Un's people are hungry and tired.

He doesn't want to be the one who screwed up the regime.

 

[nnuut]

I don't see how a logical leader can seriously mean that he will send out a NUC and destroy something when he has to know the ramifications of such a move are they NNUUTS? NK = Radioactive DUST

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[WorkFE]

I've been on the lines in the R.O.K. enough times since 1990. I've seen this posture too many times to count.

Same here Frixxxx but in the past China has always been there. It's different now because they possibly don't have that firm hand on their shoulder and could lash out like a cornered animal.
Their leaders are not what most folks are used to. They are, to say the least, unpredictable. We shall see.

 

[James48843]

North Korea: Kim Jong-un 'targets
George W. Bush's home state of Texas'

It is 12 years since George W. Bush named North Korea as one of the "Axis of Evil", yet Kim Jong-un still appears to bear a grudge.

A map detailing Mr Kim’s “US Mainland Strike Plan” was released by the Communist dictatorship on Friday.

A South Korean news organisation, NK News, published a composite image with a map of America overlaying the original. It claimed that Mr Bush’s home state of Texas was, possibly, in North Korea’s sights.

[SUP]

Kim Jong-un convening an urgent operation meeting at an undisclosed location (EPA)[/SUP]



Three other US targets appeared to have clear strategic value: Washington, DC, America’s capital; California, its most populous state; and Hawaii, a key US military outpost in the Pacific.

more:

North Korea: Kim Jong-un 'targets George W. Bush's home state of Texas' - Telegraph

and
ANALYSIS: North Korean Photo Reveals ‘U.S. Mainland Strike Plan’ | NK News – North Korea News

 

[nasa1974]

Here's an article from MSN.com:


How far can North Korean missiles reach?

How far can North Korean missiles reach?

A look at North Korea's missile arsenal and potential reach.
On March 29, North Korea put its rocket units on standby to attack US military bases in South Korea and the Pacific, according to media reports. Here's a look at North Korea's missile arsenal and its potential reach.

 

[wavecoder]

am i going to hell for laughing about the names of their missiles named something-dong

 

[James48843]

They don't need a tiny nuke, and they don't need a missile. North Korea already has a substantial submarine fleet- more than 70 subs.

ABBA'S WATCHMAN INC

All they would need to do is place a nuke on a sub, and sail the sub up the US Coast to, say, San Diego, and get it within a few miles of a U.S. Aircraft Carrier base. Don't need to get close enough to actually bother the ships - just setting off a nuke a mile or two away would do it.

Or in the river next to Washington D.C.

Or New York City.

Or someplace else.

Don't think high-tech "Dong" missles.---Yes, they have those, but no, that's not how they are going to try and deliver a nuclear weapon.



Think low tech freighter ships, and low tech small subs to get close to the target.




More:
Covert Naval Blog: North Korean Small Submarines File

 

[Birchtree]

We've already sent two B2 bombers on training runs to South Korea where they dropped 2000 lb dummy bombs. Why not drop a real one on one of the North Korean islands and watch it vanish - that'll fill any young man's pants.

 

[JTH]

Let's be serious here, this is nothing new, we've seen it before, we'll see see it again. The new guy needs to establish himself, proving to everyone he's worthy as their leader. Things will settle down soon enough and it will be bussiness as usual.

 

[burrocrat]

i don't know, maybe if we stopped flying the B2's over their heads they'd quit shaking their fists at the sky? we should send dennis rodman back over there to tell kim to just shut his piehole and roll over. or maybe present him with an autographed copy of dreams from my father, see if they can't find some middle ground.

 

[Sensei]

What everyone is neglecting to acknowledge in this thread is that South Korea is a very significant ally of the US, and they absolutely do NOT want the north nuked. Not because of radioactivity, but because they are one and the same people. There are many South Koreans with families in the north. Nuking them would be the equivalent of burning down your ex wife's house while your kids are sleeping in it. Nobody wants that to happen, and Kim & the gang are fully aware of it. That's why they can say whatever they want. If they start acting on their threats, we might retaliate, but only with the South's cooperation, and only by conventional warfare.

 

[James48843]

NKorea says it is in 'a state of war' with SKorea

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea warned Seoul on Saturday that the Korean Peninsula was entering "a state of war" and threatened to shut down a border factory complex that's the last major symbol of inter-Korean cooperation.

Analysts say a full-scale conflict is extremely unlikely, noting that the Korean Peninsula has remained in a technical state of war for 60 years. But the North's continued threats toward Seoul and Washington, including a vow to launch a nuclear strike, have raised worries that a misjudgment between the sides could lead to a clash.

North Korea's threats are seen as efforts to provoke the new government in Seoul, led by President Park Geun-hye, to change its policies toward Pyongyang, and to win diplomatic talks with Washington that could get it more aid. North Korea's moves are also seen as ways to build domestic unity as young leader Kim Jong Un strengthens his military credentials. (snip)

North Korea said in a statement Saturday that it would deal with South Korea according to "wartime regulations" and would retaliate against any provocations by the United States and South Korea without notice.


"Now that the revolutionary armed forces of the DPRK have entered into an actual military action, the inter-Korean relations have naturally entered the state of war," said the statement, which was carried by Pyongyang's official Korean Central News Agency, referring to the North's official name, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Provocations "will not be limited to a local war, but develop into an all-out war, a nuclear war," the statement said.

more:

NKorea says it is in 'a state of war' with SKorea

 

[Frixxxx]

Bunch a fear-mongering going on in this thread.

You guys are aware that there is a MAJOR exercise going on in South Korea right now,,,,,Correct?

It's called KEY RESOLVE...... and some time in late summer there will be ULCHI FOCUS GUARDIAN....

And when the exercise is over then North Korea will get quiet, and when the next exercise is going on, guess what? You'll hear the same thing ALL OVER AGAIN.

Just that this go around there seems to be a lull in what is newsworthy.

2012 - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/feb/19/north-korea-south-military-drill

2011 - http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/26/north-korea-threatens-south-korea/

2010 - http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/29/world/asia/29iht-korea.html?_r=0

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