James in Paris

VLM I was thinking something along those lines but decided to leave it alone. Until now that is. I am quite sure James will at least come back to retire.

James, seriously, enjoy the vacation.
Yeah, I sometimes have a hard time keeping my interior dialogue inside.:laugh:

Jim, enjoy your vacation. Unfortunately for me, my little work trip to Bangkok was canceled. Oh well. I'm sure I'll get another chance to go there by the time I retire.
 
Re: Europe / Eurozone

hey, does anybody know where i could go for a good dinner table discussion about religion and politicks?
 
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while not boozing it up, I hope you took the time from your socialist admiration of their politics and paid a visit and gave tribute they deserved, to YOUR FELLOW Americans buried there that gave their lives to keep France from speaking German, not mention the rest of Europe.

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The Oise-Aisne American Cemetery and Memorial is an American military cemetery in northern France. Plots A through D contains the graves of 6,012 American soldiers who died while fighting in this vicinity during World War I, 597 of which were not identified, as well as a monument for 241 Americans who were missing in action during battles in the same area and whose remains were never recovered. Included among the soldiers here who lost their lives is poet Joyce Kilmer.
A graveyard for former soldiers that were dishonorably discharged and executed for crimes committed during World War II, referred to as Plot E, is nearby. Private Eddie Slovik, the only American soldier executed for desertion during World War II, was buried there until 1987.
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The Oise-Aisne American Cemetery and Memorial lies one and a half miles east of Fère-en-Tardenois, Aisne, Picardy, France and about 14 miles (23 km) northeast of Château-Thierry. It is approximately 70 miles (110 km) northeast of Paris.
The grounds extend to 36.5 acres (148,000 m[SUP]2[/SUP]) and this is the second of eight large permanent American World War I military cemeteries that are not in the United States. It was initially established on August 2, 1918 by the 42nd Division as a temporary cemetery, but was retained as a permanent cemetery by Congress in 1921. The French government provides the site at no cost for use as a military cemetery.[SUP][1][/SUP] The memorials were designed by Cram and Ferguson and the landscape architect was George Gibbs, Jr.
The cemetery is generally rectangular in shape. The chapel, museum and grave plots are one side of the road and a parking area and the service facilities on the other side. The plots are divided by a walkway with a circular island of grass in the middle. The sides of the cemetery include paths, a privet hedge, and a low stone wall.
War dead buried at this site




Most of the 6,012 soldiers and support personnel honorably interred at this site died fighting during the Second Battle of the Marne and the Oise-Aisne campaign. The site also includes American servicemen who were buried in temporary cemeteries and were moved to this site when their families requested that they be buried overseas. All forty-eight of the states that existed at the time, as well as the District of Columbia, are represented. Stars of David mark graves of Jewish soldiers, all others have a Latin Cross. The headstones are made from white marble quarried in Carrara, Italy.
597 graves at this site are for unknown soldiers. Like the Tomb of the Unknowns in Arlington, Virginia, the graves are marked:
HERE RESTS IN HONORED GLORY AN AMERICAN SOLDIER KNOWN BUT TO GOD[SUP][[/SUP]
 
All the American cemeteries in Europe are very emotional places to visit. I have not been to that one but have been to several others in France and Belgium. I also have visited a couple of German war cemeteries. They are also very emotional and make you think about the fact there were people on both sides. Disregarding the political aims of the governments involved, just thinking and honoring the soldiers.

James, if you haven't been to one of these cemeteries, please do visit one.

regards to all

PO
 
Yes, I have already visited a number of American military cemeteries in France on previous visits here. I was most moved by the one overlooking Omaha beach.
Cimetière Américain
Omaha Beach
14710 Colleville-sur-Mer, France

http://www.normandiememoire.com/lieux_historiques/index.php?marq=1&id=182&lg=gb&parcours=2

I was actually nearby, while serving in uniform, back in June of 1984, when then President Ronald Regan gave this address at Point du Hoc, for the 40th anniversary of D-Day. There are many, many World War II veterans there that day. Our military installation in Germany had dozens of visitors - WWII vets, who came to visit in the summer of '84.


There are not many left today.
 
Alas- all good things must come to an end...so it's a 17 hour journey that begins in a Paris taxi, then Air France to Amsterdam, a layover, and then home across the Atlantic on a U.S. flag carrier. Adieu, Paris. Jusqu'à notre prochaine rencontre.

There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home....
 
Alas- all good things must come to an end...so it's a 17 hour journey that begins in a Paris taxi, then Air France to Amsterdam, a layover, and then home across the Atlantic on a U.S. flag carrier. Adieu, Paris. Jusqu'à notre prochaine rencontre.

There's no place like home. There's no place like home. There's no place like home....

Have a safe trip back. Really enjoyed your pictures.
 
Re: Europe / Eurozone

Those quotes only date back to 1931. Construction of Notre Dame began in 1163. I don't believe there were labor unions back then.

You are correct- there were no formal "labor unions" in 1163.

No, in that time, before formal labor unions, they had something called Corps de Métiers,or , roughly, types of craft guilds, which were the predecessors to labor unions. http://www.paris-pittoresque.com/histoire/10-3.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild explain a bit of the history of those.


The craft guilds wrote the rules about labor, including who could be a craftsman, master craftsman, and open up shop to compete in the labor market. The stone masons who built the Notre Dame Cathedral all were members of the craft guilds of the time.

Close, but you are correct- it is not exactly the same.

Here is an extract of a book titled:" A traveller's history of Paris, By Robert Cole"

where the guild men of 1163 who built Notre Dame were not pleased with scab labor:
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You are correct- there were no formal "labor unions" in 1163.

No, in that time, before formal labor unions, they had something called Corps de Métiers,or , roughly, types of craft guilds, which were the predecessors to labor unions. http://www.paris-pittoresque.com/histoire/10-3.htm and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guild explain a bit of the history of those.


The craft guilds wrote the rules about labor, including who could be a craftsman, master craftsman, and open up shop to compete in the labor market. The stone masons who built the Notre Dame Cathedral all were members of the craft guilds of the time.

Close, but you are correct- it is not exactly the same.

Here is an extract of a book titled:" A traveller's history of Paris, By Robert Cole"

where the guild men of 1163 who built Notre Dame were not pleased with scab labor:
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It's interesting that the strong arm tactics of organized labor haven't changed much over the centuries.
 
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It's interesting that the strong arm tactics of organized labor haven't changed much over the centuries.

I find it interesting that you cite uncorroborated allegations, with no arrests in the case, no hearing, nothing but the unsubstantiated report in a publication written by the John Birch Society. The same right-wing John Birch Society that once called Dwight Eisenhower a communist. Even ABC news called the John Birch Society "the far-right fringe" of American politics. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/02/farright-john-birch-society-2010/

On the other hand- there is a bit more to the story of alleged labor violence, I am sure. Like the fact that the gentleman who is alleging that violence, was in fact himself President of the corporation convicted by the NLRB of committing illegal unfair labor practices. King Electric, far from being an innocent company, is in fact a convicted violator of the law.

Certainly that is not a reason to shoot someone- but then again, he's not the nice guy he tries to appear to be in the John Birch Society write up you cite.

Failing to obey the law certainly isn't the way to win friends, now is it?

Tell you what, Viva. If you really would like to debate whether or not such things actually occur, I would welcome the discussion over on http://beltwaytalk.com . Care to meet me there for a discussion?
 
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