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[Oceansideguy]

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All you have to do is a little research on the topic(s)- just GOOGLE them (Iran, Iran and Israel, first use military strike cheney, bunker buster iran israel, suicide bombers Iran, israel unilateral attack iran) and you will determine the following:

1) The US has as its policy the usage of PREEMPTIVE NUKES (not the traditional plume kind, rather, the kind that are pinpointed to do non plume type explosions) against countries with bunkers (with WOMDs); and

2) IRAN is currently pursuing nukes for "peaceful" technology but is a sworn enemy of both Israel and the US; and

3) With nukes in hand, IRAN could do the unthinkable kiddies, hand a portable nuke to terrorists. Blam, there goes the world economy when DC, London or Paris goes down. ; and

4) IRAN resuses to stop pursuing this technology even as it swears it wants to keep negociating with the big EU 3; and

5) IRAN's enemy, our friend Israel, refuses to wait much longer before it attacks. Oh and, I forgot to mention. Pres. Bush ALREADY delivered bunker busting bombs (headed for Iran of course from Isreal, over a YEAR AGO); and

6) IRAN threatens Europe and Israel with missles it got essentially from Russia and North Korea; and

7) RUSSIA, another truly terrorist country, has stated that IRAN should not even be referred to the UNSC - where it presumably would get the heat turned up on it b/c Russia itself has been building the facilities in Iran for years and

8) we have a few fare weather friends: Yeah, FRANCE IS NOMINALLY ONE OF THEM. Most of Western Europe, Eastern Europe, a small handful of countries in latin America, Australia/NZ and Canada, it increasingly appears - aside from our disagreements over IRAQ, are increasingly our ONLY quasi allies IN THE WORLD. Read about how the rest of the world is ALSO the target of Muslim extremism.

Given this, how do we factor this into our investment scheme, if at all? :s

I forgot to mention, Iran is currently arming insurgents in IRAQ to kill our soldiers, of course Shiite ones. Moreover, western powers are causing problems for iran by agnering the arabs in Iran that border Iraq, who presumably would like independence. The likelihood of war grows daily. How do we factor this in, or should we forget about it and hope it doesnt happen?

 

[The_Technician]

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I was watching the History channel last night about all the hoopla touted by truthsayers and such of a future savior of the Arian (spelling)Nation....in the 1800's...eventually it led to Adolf Hitler...I couldn't help but notice the pattern....first the hoopla of a savior coming and then someone thought they would be that person and took advantage of it for a short period on to bring the world devastation and then the Germans their demise...

I wonder, do we have that same situation forming here in the Middle east??

How long will it take for the Arabs to gain sufficient military power to bring a world to its knees?????.... even for a short period....

:^

 

[Oceansideguy]

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An International Herald Tribune (a well respected newspaper) reports that the war with Iran has already begun.

Friends, the purpose of my message is not apocolytic in nature. Rather, it is intended for consideration as part of an investment strategy.

http://www.iht.com/getina/files/283042.html

 

[Oceansideguy]

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War in the middle east will likely include not only Iran, but SYRIA too.

Please watch the upcoming UN meeting on Tuesday. It is being said - you all can read about it if you do the Google NEWS research- that the US will soon impose sanctions on Syria. UK and US state the UN has evidence of Syria's assasination of Harriri. Moreover, Israelis is gearing up for war with Iran. See
http://www.israelnewsagency.com/syriaisraeliranwarun7551021.html

Iran repeats the claim that the UK is causing explosions in its Arab populated (and discontented) South West. Iran also states that the UK will "pay" apparently implying terrorism. http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds/afx/2005/10/20/afx2288450.html

"Syria will pay for Harriri's (former reformist Lebanese Prime Minister) death, vow the US and UK. See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...22.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/10/22/ixnewstop.html

Blair begins selling an Iran war to war weary British public. Soon, we will hear the same things in the US as the war approaches.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/story/cms.php?story_id=3268

 

[teknobucks]

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http://www.financialsense.com/stormwatch/update.htm

 

[Oceansideguy]

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IRAN DISSIDENTS PLEA FOR HELP

http://www.ncr-iran.org/content/view/476/1/

Iranian resistance groups plead to US Congressman to end Mullahs quest for nuclear weapons, desire to see a rise in fundamentalist Islam/caliphate (Iraq and elsewhere). Note that there is no mention of the use of force. However, it seems to be a plea for massive operations more akin to "assisting" the resistance. The key be3ing time is of the essence as Iran's nuclear ambitions are bringing it ever closer to possessing a nuclear weapon.

The Iranian mullahs are aware of the US' desire and are preraring for thousands resistance fighters to squelch any such disent.


CURRENT ADMINISTRATION POSITION ON IRAN:

...While Condi says there is action against IRAN is "not on the agenda"
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/new...1_MOL344851_RTRUKOC_0_UK-NUCLEAR-IRAN-USA.xml

But she added that " President George W. Bush would not rule out any option while the international community pursued diplomatic means to address fears that Tehran is seeking nuclear weapons."


SEE ALSO TIME MAGAZINE"S INTERVIEW WITH RICE:
Rice Outlines Next Steps in Iran Showdown http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1107125,00.html

Wherein Rice expresses hope in diplomacy, but does not mention what would happen if dipomacy fails.


MY COMMENTS:

Diplomacy will be doomed as the US despite minor shirt term gains. It would appear that the US ability to 'win over' India to its position (to refer Iran to the UNSC)is relevant. However, India lacks a permamnent seat on the UNSC. Moreover, the Indian goverment caught a n errormous amount of flack from its left wing parties for against friendly country Iran. India agreed to refer to the UNSC only under huge pressure from the US and promises from the US to both legitimize India as a nuclear power and assist India in its military desires. Moreover, India wants the US to support its bid to be a permanent UNSD member and it knows it needs the US' support.

But diplomacy also cannot work because China (a permanent UNSC member) will never allow anything to happen to Iran because China needs Iran as a source of oil.

Russia will never agree to Iran being punished because it is the country that is providing the 1 Billion dollar nuclear station to Iran.

The Europeans will support the US in sanctions against Iran when the time comes. But the Europeans will not assist the US (except in covert ops as the UK is engaged in in Iran) in its war in Iran.

Only one solution remains: instigate a civil war inside Iran, and calculated attacks on Tehran and other major cities. Increasingly this is looking like the only way to deal with Iran. This will be done very soon as the risk of Iran having nuclear weapons is too much for the US/west to handle.

The adminsitration will be forced into taking this approach for PR reasons, not the leat of which includes an overstreched military. Remember, Iran is a gargantuan country with a very large populace and a mountenous country which could never be entirely conquered. Moreover, there is no appetite for war in the world, or in America. And sending soldiers to die would not look good without quick results. But I am not sure we can expect any fast results. I hope they don't botch the attack. But attacking Iran before they have a weapon prevents the usage of nukes as bunker busters and the bad PR that would create in the Islamic world. The chaos would allow us to take over the nuclear facilities.

The problem with the scenario is the inflamming a huge country; a country we could never occupy due to its size. There is also the instability that this would cause the world oil market, the dollar and the world economies. But that is another story...