Iceland Volcano- Economic disaster?

LOOK! Don't put the bad karma on me I've already lost $350 because of this stupid volcano because of cancellations! Give me a break!:nuts:
 
grandma said:
Those are Some Kind of Photographs !!
Is this a silly question - or just plain stupid? :
-what would happen to the volcano if a bomb was dropped down the center of it?-
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Much like in ancient times, where they did the whole virgin sacrifice thing, you end up wasting a bombshell!;)
 
Silverbird: And HE knows when the crust needs a little shaking and rebuilding. We can't read the signs yet to know when its coming and definately don't know what will happen if we tamper with it! At least we know more about the direction of ash clouds, and we know it's something that we didn't cause to happen.
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I know you are referencing the volcano, but we can read the signs that He has given us, from Genesis thru Revelation, as to the time frame of disasters such as we have seen increasingly more frequent. And the crust shakings and the volcanoes, and the violent acts of nature - we just don't need to look for any rebuilding, as yet - :)
 
nnuut said:
No stopping a volcano, only the Big Guy can do that!:)
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And HE knows when the crust needs a little shaking and rebuilding. We can't read the signs yet to know when its coming and definately don't know what will happen if we tamper with it! At least we know more about the direction of ash clouds, and we know it's something that we didn't cause to happen.
 
grandma said:
Those are Some Kind of Photographs !!
Is this a silly question - or just plain stupid? :
-what would happen to the volcano if a bomb was dropped down the center of it?-
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I have a hard time even thinking it would be a viable proposition. Aircraft would choke on ash and crash before ever getting into position. Who'd even volunteer to try? Suicide mission w/o even reasonable chance of success? :sick:
 
Not a good plan with the bomb, it might be too small to matter or might just weaken the crust to the mantle further and make things worse! We don't know enough about volcanos as it is. Oh, and most likely it would melt more snow and cause more flooding and falling glaciers (the last part of the volcano's name I think is the Icelandic word for glacier).

Edit - the whole name means "island mountain glacier"
Iceland's volcano a mouthful to say
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/04/20/volcano.pronounciation/index.html?hpt=T1
 
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Those are Some Kind of Photographs !!
Is this a silly question - or just plain stupid? :
-what would happen to the volcano if a bomb was dropped down the center of it?-
 
See some incredible pictures of the Icelandic Volcano:

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/04/more_from_eyjafjallajokull.html

Takes a few minutes to load-

very good pictures worth seeing.

Here is one, of the 35 pictures, worth seeing:

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I got muddy raindrops on my work pickup in SE Montana a couple days after St. Helens blew in 1980. didn't know what it was at first, but the radio was on, telling people to wash it off their vehicles, not brush it off, for fear of ruining the paint.
 
Here's the problem.

No commercial airliner has "Volcanic ash sensors" aboard.

They won't know it's there, until they are actually in it.

And then it may be too late.

Note: Air Force One has aboard a whole host of air sensors other planes do not. That is one of the things they were talking about a couple days ago when they were debating whether or not the President was going to try and make the Polish funeral. In that decision- they decided not to go. Sensors only tell you when you are actually in it. They don't tell you BEFORE you are in it.

And the commercial airlines don't have any sensors like that. Once they fly into ash, they are pretty much at the mercy of the ash. If there is only a little, they may be able to get away with it.

If there is a lot, they can and will damage engines.

And if there a whole lot, they may end up with engine damage enough to lose an engine (or all engines) in flight.

In the Alaska case back in 1989, they lost all four engines due to oxygen starvation when they flew into the ash. They couldn't even see it, yet it was bad enough to conk out all four engines at once. The only thing that saved their bacon was they descended out of the ash, and were able to restart engines at lower altitudes.

Do that once now, 300 miles off-shore, and I bet they change their minds.

The voice transcript from that 1989 KLM flight:


  • Pilot KLM B–747—‘‘KLM 867 heavy is reaching level 250 heading 140’’
  • Anchorage Center—‘‘Okay, Do you have good sight on the ash plume at this time?’’
  • Pilot KLM B–747—‘‘Yea, it’s just cloudy it could be ashes. It’s just a little browner than the normal cloud.’’
  • Pilot KLM B–747—‘‘We have to go left now. . . it’s smoky in the cockpit at the moment, sir.’’
  • Anchorage Center—‘‘KLM 867 heavy, roger, left at your discretion.’’
  • Pilot KLM B–747—‘‘Climbing to level 390, we’re in a black cloud, heading 130.’’
  • Pilot KLM B–747—‘‘KLM 867 we have flame out all engines and we are descending now!’’
  • Anchorage Center—‘‘KLM 867 heavy, Anchorage?
  • Pilot KLM B–747—‘‘KLM 867 heavy, we are descending now. . . we are in a fall!’’
  • Pilot KLM B–747—‘‘KLM 867, we need all the assistance you have, sir. Give us radar vectors please!’’
More: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLM_Flight_867
 
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