I fund

[clester]

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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]NESTLE SA CHAM ET VE[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]HSBC Holdings PLC[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]NOVARTIS AG BASL[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]1.36[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]RHHVF[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]1.34[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Vodafone Group PLC[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Royal Dutch Shell PLC Class A[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]RYDAF.L[/TD]
[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF, align: right"]1.14[/TD]
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[TD="class: yfnc_tabledata1, bgcolor: #FFFFFF"]Toyota Motor Corp[/TD]
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The Usd was strong vs GBP is prob why Efa was down that much.

 

[RealMoneyIssues]

Have you taken into account FV, or better yet (here comes a conspiracy theory) that Blackrock manipulates the I fund price based on how many folks are buying in or selling to maximize their profit on the price spread (bid to ask)???

 

[clester]

Have you taken into account FV, or better yet (here comes a conspiracy theory) that Blackrock manipulates the I fund price based on how many folks are buying in or selling to maximize their profit on the price spread (bid to ask)???

Manipulation? Surely not.

 

[JTH]

Although the I fund has a good chunck of Japan it never seems to move the index much. At least in years past. It has been going up lately as the yen weakens which offset each other for us. The feel I get for the movement is the Ftse.

I'm sorry I hate to repeat myself, but I will for the benefit of our newcomers, this fund is not for the inexperienced.

 

[JTH]

For you I-Funders, this would seem like a probable PO for the Dollar

 

[JTH]

UUP's dollar ETF has clearly broken down below it's channel

 

[skycophigh]

JTH. what does this suggest????? buy I???


UOTE=JTH;394417]UUP's dollar ETF has clearly broken down below it's channel

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[Sensei]

Tokyo Stock Exchange is closed today, after the Nikkei being down 1.8% on Friday. If our markets close even or green on Monday, one might expect the Nikkei to bounce on Tuesday. So, logical thought might favor an advantage in the I fund on Tuesday. Of course, the I fund makes little to no sense to me, and since I'm already 100%S, I'm not going to waste an IFT. But for anyone on the sidelines looking to get in, this could be an opportunity.

Well, looks like I called it for one day. Now the Nikkei went down another 1% while the European indexes are stagnating. The yen pulled back a bit, so I assume the dollar is advancing. So the I fund will probably dump its gains again tomorrow. FWIW, like JTH, I don't play the I-fund either. Like Birchtree says, it's only a two-seat potty, and he's got pretty wide cheeks. I'm just posting in this thread for fun, and I guess to learn a little bit more.

 

[clester]

This morning the dollar is stronger vs pound and yen and weaker vs euro. Averaging I get about a -0.3% currency effect.

 

[clester]

This morning the dollar is stronger vs pound and yen and weaker vs euro. Averaging I get about a -0.3% currency effect.

Taking into account their stock markets I get about a -.6% more for about a -.9% total. so, yeah EFA will probably give back it's gain today if it holds.

 

[clester]

Taking into account their stock markets I get about a -.6% more for about a -.9% total. so, yeah EFA will probably give back it's gain today if it holds.

The currency risk is too high to be in EFA IMO. JPY and GBP are big downtrends against Usd which really hurts the I fund. The euro is doing ok but but it can't override the othe two.

 

[JTH]

EFA fell just short of my price objective, I'm a little disappointed...

 

[JimmyJoe]

EFA fell just short of my price objective, I'm a little disappointed...

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The I fund fair value giveth and taketh. It has out performed the other two funds this week and so I'm sticking with it. It simply owes us considering this month's lack of gains. It's just beginning to get going.

 

[JTH]

The I fund fair value giveth and taketh. It has out performed the other two funds this week and so I'm sticking with it. It simply owes us considering this month's lack of gains. It's just beginning to get going.

Lol, Jimmy I love you (man love), but don't go spreading rumors that just aren't true. The I-Fund has underperformed the S-Fund 9 out of the last 10 days. On the 5-day price performance 1 out of 10 days (and tied once), on the 10-day price performance 2 out of 10 days. The S-Fund is the best fund to be in, not because it outperforms the I-fund, but because it is consistent, stable, less risk, sometimes the slower option is the better long-term strategy.

 

[JTH]

Man, once again the I-Fund drops a turd in the toilet that won't flush. Never mind the price objective, it's busted.

 

[JimmyJoe]

Lol, Jimmy I love you (man love), but don't go spreading rumors that just aren't true. The I-Fund has underperformed the S-Fund 9 out of the last 10 days. On the 5-day price performance 1 out of 10 days (and tied once), on the 10-day price performance 2 out of 10 days. The S-Fund is the best fund to be in, not because it outperforms the I-fund, but because it is consistent, stable, less risk, sometimes the slower option is the better long-term strategy.

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Page one of Tsptalk showing returns. For this week thus far, the S is at .46%, the I at .48%. This by the way is not a sprint. Give it a month and the two funds will even out, that's to say the I fund will give us some nice gains. I like your chart, though.

 

[rktect1]

I believe one of the first things I read a few years back was written by JTH
I have to paraphrase but he said that market timing isn't about who can be in the longest but rather reduce your exposure to market risk. Less days for bigger profit. He said it way better but if your idea is to sit in a fund for months at a time you may very well not get the maximum reward

 

[Birchtree]

Sometimes if you want to make money in the markets, you have to make the trades that few others are comfortable with - today that means the I fund. I prefer the trade not get crowded.

 

[Birchtree]

Often times taking the road less traveled leads to higher returns. Nobody is omnipotent and humility in the markets is always a virtue.

 

[wavecoder]

dollar is killing the I fund, helicopter ben needs to buy more bonds