I Fund

pound vs. dollar

Pound, Euro, Yen - not all in synch relative to the dollar it seems...

Feb. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The pound fell against the dollar for the fourth week in a row on speculation the Bank of England may lower interest rates in the first half of this year, widening the yield advantage of the U.S. currency.

The pound dropped 1 percent against the dollar in the week as the central bank left its benchmark rate at 4.5 percent for a sixth month on Feb. 9 and interest-rate futures trading shows some investors have revived bets on lower borrowing costs by the middle of the year amid signs that consumer spending is sputtering.

``The dollar-supporting factors still have an impact such as the economic momentum and the interest rate differential,'' said Bjoern Pietsch, a fund manager at Deutsche Bank AG's DWS Investment GmbH.

Against the dollar, the pound was at $1.7446 late yesterday in London, from $1.7625 on Feb. 3. It was also at 68.22 pence versus the euro from 68.25 pence a week earlier.

The U.S. Federal Reserve has increased rates 14 consecutive times since June 2004 and is expected to raise the federal funds target a quarter percentage point at each of its next two meetings, reaching 5 percent by mid-year.

In the U.K., the central bank pared rates in August to 4.5 percent for the first time in two years. The yield on the interest- rate future maturing in June was 4.5 percent late Friday, down from 4.61 on Feb. 2, its highest this year. The futures contract settles to the three-month London inter-bank offered rate for the pound, which has averaged about 15 basis points more than the benchmark rate for the past decade.

A narrowing interest-rate premium erodes the attraction of U.K. assets compared to those in the U.S.
 
Daytrading in Japan - like 1999?

ANALYSTS say online investors are driving the soaring volume — and volatility — in Japan's resurgent stock markets. Internet trading, which did not exist before 1999, accounted for almost 29 percent of all equity trades in the six months that ended last September, according to the dealers association.

That more than accounts for all the increased trading during the Japanese market's rally. The leading Japanese stock index, the Nikkei 225, has risen about 40 percent since August. While all the short-term money sloshing around has helped Japanese stocks snap out of their decade-long slump, it is also creating new dangers, say analysts. Many recall how a similar fad in the United States in the late 1990's ended with many traders suffering substantial losses when the telecom and dot-com bubble burst. As the bull market turned, overleveraged speculators dumped their holdings, accelerating and exaggerating the decline in prices.

Something similar happened here last month, though on a much smaller scale, when prosecutors started an investigation of Livedoor, a Web portal company that had been a darling of Internet investors. The news set off an avalanche of sale orders — most placed online, according to securities companies — that shut down the computers at the Tokyo Stock Exchange, the world's second-largest bourse, after the New York Stock Exchange.

Since the Tokyo exchange reopened, Livedoor's share price has been in free fall, dropping more than 90 percent in three weeks. The authorities in Tokyo filed charges last week against Livedoor's founder, Takafumi Horie, and three other former executives of his company, accusing them of spreading false information to inflate a subsidiary's stock price.

The exchange is racing to update its computers, but many analysts fear similar waves of panicked selling in the future. They also say that the rising popularity of online trading has coincided with an almost three-year rally in Japan's stock markets. It is easy to make money when prices are rising, they say. But day-trading may lose some of its luster in the next bear market.

"The real test will come when the market goes down," said Yukihiro Yabuki, a managing director for marketing at Matsui Securities, one of Japan's largest online brokerage firms. "Will they abandon day-trading as soon as things get tough? Do they really understand the risks?"

So far, Livedoor's fall has failed to dampen enthusiasm for online trading. That popularity is seen in the appearance of televised day-trading competitions and in books with titles like "How a University Student Like Me Made 300 Million Yen in Internet Trading."
 
Ah So my friend, but what goes down usually goes back up. Foreign markets are still outpreforming the U.S. except for small and middle caps. How long will this last? Who knows !!! However the Nicky is still having problems with it's own volutility, but in the long run money will be made in the I-Fund. You just have to buy and hold.
 
Ah, but how long must one hold, it's not always quite so simple.

Average annual return for C fund for last 5 years to date is about .25%. Something more like 8.9% if you calculate for last 10 years.

But what if you had a big position in nicky back at 40,000 more than 10 years ago - answer: "still waiting".

So imho, there's some reason to watch and see if it's possible to step aside from the big downdrafts that seem to come to various markets/sectors from time to time.
 
How Long?

oldschool said:
Ah, but how long must one hold, it's not always quite so simple.

Average annual return for C fund for last 5 years to date is about .25%. Something more like 8.9% if you calculate for last 10 years.

But what if you had a big position in nicky back at 40,000 more than 10 years ago - answer: "still waiting".

So imho, there's some reason to watch and see if it's possible to step aside from the big downdrafts that seem to come to various markets/sectors from time to time.
April 2003 through March 2004: If one bought and held in the I-Fund, one would have netted 45.21% on their investment; 11 months. That's over $45,210.00 profit on a $100K investment; compound interest not applied.

Not a 5 year wait. Not 10 years.

11 months.

Just a one time fluke? Nope.
June 2005 to PRESENT: 22.34%; 8 months.

Buy & Hold. :)
 
Sensible Approach To The I Fund

A Sensible Approach to The I Fund
By Ralph Smith
3/8/2006


The following will sound like conflicting advice. But read on carefully.

First, you may have too much money in the I fund. For example, if you put 25% of your TSP investments into the I fund back in 2003, you now have a much larger percentage of your retirement money in foreign stocks than you did originally. No other fund has done as well as the I fund. That is good but watch your portfolio allocation. You don't want to put too much of of your TSP money in this (or any other) fund. (If you do want to have most of your retirement funds in the I fund, more power to you. The rest of us will watch closely as you accept the risk. We will hope you do well!)

Second, you may not have enough money in the I fund. If you have been avoiding this fund out of fear, patriotism or lack of knowledge, you may want to reconsider.

Link: http://www.fedsmith.com/articles/articles.showarticle.db.php?intArticleID=847
 
Don't Fear the I Fund.

Originally Posted by milk_man: The rest of us will watch closely as you accept the risk.
Please explain the fear of risk with the I Fund, M_M? Can't anyone move out in a matter of hours, at ones own discretion, by going to the TSP website; at no cost? I fail to comprehend the factors involving risk, Sir? The I-Fund will never get the uncontested chance to pull the proverbial full gainer off the Hoover Dam. One must remember, news didn't travel very well during events precluding the U.S. crash of 1929.

One must simply set a personal level of acceptable "yardage" loss, while investing in this fund, and be ready punt on "that" fourth down. Some offenses punt on 4th & 2 and some have enough faith & power to run on 4th & 4. To each & everyone their chosen own. Good luck, and God Speed us all to long, healthy & happy retirements.

The recent I-Fund returns are pretty darn hard to beat. **See two posts above.**

Brian :)
 
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Fivetears said:
April 2003 through March 2004: If one bought and held in the I-Fund, one would have netted 45.21% on their investment; 11 months. That's over $45,210.00 profit on a $100K investment; compound interest not applied.

Not a 5 year wait. Not 10 years.

11 months.

Just a one time fluke? Nope.
June 2005 to PRESENT: 22.34%; 8 months.

Buy & Hold. :)

It all depends on what dates one looks at for I fund performance. For the year 2000, down %14, for 2001 down 21.94%, for 2003 down %15.98. For Nov. 1, 2000 to Oct 1, 2001 - I fund was down roughly 36%. Buy and Hold? Sure, when the trend is up. Again, imho, it's nice to dodge the big downdrafts..... The I and S funds have more volitility than the C - bigger risk of both outsized gains and outsized losses...
 
mlk_man said:
FT, where did this quote come from? You do realize I don't have an "I" in my handle right?
Respectfully, I'm not quite sure I follow or understand your question about me realizing you don't 'have an "I" in your handle'.

Brian
 
...and still learning.

A ha! MLK_MAN. Your handle. I'm still learning the jargon. My apology for the "I". The quote you question came directly from your post. I assume when one goes out of their way to post information, one (at a minimum) would endorse the comments of the post. If it were not the case sir, then why go through all the trouble to educate or inform TSPtalk readers?

Please explain the fear of risk with the I Fund. Can't anyone move out in a matter of hours, at ones own discretion, by going to the TSP website; at no cost? I fail to comprehend the factors involving risk, Sir. The I-Fund will never get the uncontested chance to pull the proverbial full gainer off the Hoover Dam. One must remember, news didn't travel very well during events precluding the U.S. crash of 1929.

Your post preceding my question stated,"The rest of us will watch closely as you accept the risk."

Respectfully,
Brian
 
Well...the next world war could nearly wipe the I fund out in a matter of days. ;) Once the crazies get hold of a nuke, the gloves are off and Guantanamo will look like Disneyland compared to what comes next.
 
Fivetears said:
I assume when one goes out of their way to post information, one (at a minimum) would endorse the comments of the post. If it were not the case sir, then why go through all the trouble to educate or inform TSPtalk readers?
risk."

Respectfully,
Brian

Sir, you assume wrong. I post information so that one can make a knowledgable decision on their own. I neither endorse nor oppose most articles that I post.

"Why go through all the trouble to educate or inform TSPtalk readers", say what? Isn't that what this site is all about? Am I missing something here?

I personally don't care for the "I" fund. But that doesn't stop me from playing it from time to time.

Now, as far as your quoting something that I never said, don't you think that when someone starts mis-quoting someone else and even worse, starts fabricating quotes, that that is when we really start having problems?

Regards,

M_M
 
Fivetears said:
A ha! MLK_MAN. Your handle. I'm still learning the jargon. My apology for the "I". You are the most handsome man on this board and I would never, ever do anything to disrespect you. When i go watch the movie "Brokeback Mountain", I think of you and can only hope one day to finally meet you.

Respectfully,
Brian

See what I mean...........:blink:
 
bkrownd said:
Well...the next world war could nearly wipe the I fund out in a matter of days. ;) Once the crazies get hold of a nuke, the gloves are off and Guantanamo will look like Disneyland compared to what comes next.
I soundly agree with you on this scenario, and wholeheartedly pray the "matter of days" do not fall between the market bells surrounding an otherwise peaceful weekend. But until then... you can't beat the odds in the I.
 
mlk_man said:
See what I mean...........:blink:
So that was not your PC keyboard that created the posted the material in #27 of this thread? My bad. Thanks for answering an honest and simple question as well. Your courteous responses are very much appreciated. God Bless.

Brian
 
Odd curiosity

I came across a boarder the other day out in the hinterlands with the handle TSP Wiz - could just be a coincidence.
 
Currently the EFA is up and the dollar just turned sharply down. Should be another good day for the I fund, but if our markets remain flat, it could be time for one of those "fair valuation" days.
 
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