Gulf of Mexico BP Oil Well

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DAWG51 said:
As a resident of the Gulfcoast - Here is a bright perspective.
The amount of Deep Horizon oil leaked into the Gulf of Mexico over the past 85 days is equivalent to approximately 1 gallon of oil in 3 billion gallons of seawater. (Assuming 60,000 barrels of oil spilled per day). This equates to 1 ounce of oil distributed among 937 In-ground, residential grade swimming pools.

Obviously, the oil is not equally distributed throughout the Gulf of Mexico and this does not help the beaches, marshes and fisheries that are already soiled. But, it makes one wonder if a small hurricane or tropical depression (Bonnie) might provide some nice mixing/dilution.

Looking at nasty oil on the beach is depressing. Pondering these type of perspectives makes me feel good. :)
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I appreciate your perspective....One scientist/environmentalist was saying the other night, that the oil if it could stay at sea longer would eventually dissipate and most likely if it reached the shores, would be as tar balls/patties and those are much more manageable than a slick...But On a less liberal, less crisis mongering network..they were saying that plane fly overs and search vessels cannot not find but a few and very little patches of oil remaining in the Gulf as sea...Hope that is a positive sign as well.
 
Microbes are eating BP oil without using up oxygen​

"WASHINGTON – Government scientists studying the BP disaster are reporting the best possible outcome: Microbes are consuming the oil in the Gulf without depleting the oxygen in the water and creating "dead zones" where fish cannot survive.
Outside scientists said this so far vindicates the difficult and much-debated decision by BP and the government to use massive amounts of chemical dispersants deep underwater to break up the oil before it reached the surface.
Oxygen levels in some places where the BP oil spilled are down by 20 percent, but that is not nearly low enough to create dead zones, according to the 95-page report released Tuesday.
In an unusual move, BP released 771,000 gallons of chemical dispersant about a mile deep, right at the spewing wellhead instead of on the surface, to break down the oil into tiny droplets.
The idea was to make it easier for oil-eating microbes to do their job. But the risk was that the microbes would use up the oxygen in the water. So BP had to perform a delicate balancing act"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100907/ap_on_sc/us_sci_gulf_spill_where_s_the_oil
 
I think to the largest degree it feels like I'm reading a 'Fantasy Story' - mmm -- more like a 'Romance Novel -- with warmth and glitter'.

In the Story -- wholly spread by the Media which gives the grounding to all our beliefs... :)

The USA is the Knight in Shining Armor -- always and forever doing good and serving the interests of the people, our planet, and the environment.

GB is the 'evil' that snuck in to destory things -- so the US immediately turns everything into a 'money thing' -- forever and ever stretching the 'facts' against the foreign Nation and 'making them pay'.

Meanwhile -- the recent VP (oopps :o) who raked in a fortune with the Iraq War. Well -- sugar and dumplings -- it turns out that his company (ahhh I believe that starts with an 'H') --

Do you mean the same 'H' Loophole -- that made it possible to ignore and bypass many laws meant for our safety (water, land, air)...

Yes - I do -- but please allow me to continue....;)

Well it turns out that 'independent tests' show the concrete they used are most centrally the basis behind the whole disaster....

What :mad: That means not only were we responsible -- but we might have to pay...

Now calm down little fella --- ain't no way that's going to happen. It wouldn't look good.

The 'Image' and the 'Perception that grounds our Beliefs' are everything.

Therefore: The extent by which the 'Chemicals Used' and their adverse effects on the environment. The manner by which life (the food chain) will be damaged for at least the next 30 to 50 years .....

Sorry -- need to run --- 'emergency' ......
 
Sorry all --- but my job comes first .... emergency done.

Anyway -- with my spare me the BS and give me the 'Facts' lifestyle that I prefer to maintain...

I'd rather gather my information from the people who are most likely to give the 'Facts' to the highest degree... and whose lives are most sincerely dedicated to the 'Facts'....

So I turn more to the 'Environmental Agencies'
..............................'Sceintists'
..............................'Independent LAB analysis - free of bias'

I dare to go to the sources -- that defy the 'fantasy dream world' and make me deal with reality.

But it's weird -- because in doing that you find another 'spill' never made the press. You find the extent by which so many details remain hidden.

No problem Bro -- Making money -- and having a willingness to invest in companies most likely to give 'profits' is 100% the opposite of:

Human Rights concerns
Environmental concerns
and everything else

I'm simply expressing 'true environmental concerns' related to Oil (and all connected with the BP spill)
 
From what I have read the damage they are seeing is minuscule compared to the estimated damage that would have happened to the shore and under water environment had they not used the chemical dispersants. Logic demands that an oil spill of this magnitude Will Harm the environment, I think we got off easy.:cool:
 
Panel: Dollars did not trump safety in Gulf spill​


WASHINGTON – The presidential commission investigating the BP Gulf oil spill challenged claims in Congress that the oil company and others sacrificed safety to cuts cost. In preliminary findings issued Monday, the panel's investigators supported many of BP's own conclusions about what led to the disaster.
The panel's chief investigator, Fred H. Bartlit Jr., announced 13 principal findings, many of which seemed to track with investigations of the blowout, including BP's. Bartlit said he agreed with "about 90 percent" of the company's own conclusions.
Under commission procedures, Bartlit presented the findings to the seven-member panel.
One determination in particular challenges the narrative that has dominated the headlines and Democratic probes in Congress since the April 20 incident killed 11 and unleashed more than 200 million gallons of crude into the Gulf of Mexico: that BP made perilous choices to save money.
"We see no instance where a decision-making person or group of people sat there aware of safety risks, aware of costs and opted to give up safety for costs," Bartlit said. "We do not say everything done was perfectly safe. We're saying that people have said people traded safety for dollars. We studied the hell out of this. We welcome anybody who gives us something we missed."
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101108/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill_investigation
 
I'm glad I had the courage to track BP to the bottom around $27.86 - I have a sweet profit at this time and will continue to buy all the way back to $60. Selling today for $43.
 
nnuut said:
From what I have read the damage they are seeing is minuscule compared to the estimated damage that would have happened to the shore and under water environment had they not used the chemical dispersants.

Logic demands that an oil spill of this magnitude Will Harm the environment, I think we got off easy.:cool:
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My friend - honestly - I think considering the enormity of all that has happened and all that continues to happen 'we' are very fortunate things are not a whole lot worse.

I can gather some of the information regarding the 'Chemical Dispersants' and why the USA quickly put an halt to their use.

My only point to begin with - was in regards to the true environmental damage that highly exceeds what our 'media' would ever in any manner be allowed to be aired.

I'm simply reflecting on the 40,000 barrels a day (and my immediate post about the absurity of that LOW number) - and how obviously is was used to quell the fears.

The Bottom Line is 'The Damage was Minuscule' - mainly because it had to be projected that way for 'Political and Economic' reasons. All the more even if one of the highest US Politicians 'ever' - if it is found his company was mostly at fault -- there is 'no way' that will be aired.

Man I just live in the world and observe -- that's all. Simply telling it like it is.



Buster said:
Panel: Dollars did not trump safety in Gulf spill​
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I'm not out to argue against the American media and all it's designed to convince us.

I believe the 'dollars spent' were most designed to throw it under the carpet and get everyones' focus on the matter being 'over.
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Birchtree said:
I'm glad I had the courage to track BP to the bottom around $27.86 - I have a sweet profit at this time and will continue to buy all the way back to $60. Selling today for $43.
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:D:D I'm glad you're my big brother.

Big MONEY is made by paying attention
 
Steady I followed this thing very closely, but what the heck, what do I know. I only call it like I see it, and that's how I see it. Where did all of the Oil go?:)
 
nnuut said:
Steady I followed this thing very closely, but what the heck, what do I know. I only call it like I see it, and that's how I see it. Where did all of the Oil go?:)
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We're cool Norm.

The truth is -- and I really mean this -- the truth for me began when I started doing my own research on Iran. What's totally flipped out is that I hated JC as much as Birch - and 100% for Military reasons.

What's all the more amazing is that my view of Iranians was identical to what that little scoundral expresses about another native population. What I knew back then was there was no way they'd ever get by with what they did and then saying a bunch of crap to boot. So it consumed everything I lived for and everything I did. Then JC pulls the plug.

So I left mad as hell -- I mean I could hardly see straight -- because I didn't get a chance to rid the world of hundreds of thousands. :D;) When I began deeply searching -- for everything I could find -- it was wholly to justify and 'support what I believed through and through'.

What I found was soooooo incredibly 'humbling' -- and all the more when I had to acknowledge the extent by which GB and the USA took everything and made them 'slaves'. When I saw the extent by which the CIA disrupted their country - for 'our benefit'. When I came to find how much more deeply their roots have gone for thousands of years beyond anything we as 'Americans' could remotely touch. When you look at 'The PEOPLE' and not a Politician or 'Religious Leader' - it's deeply humbling.

The TRUTH is they had every right to want 'The foreigners' OUT.

Now if we could insert -- Bach and Mozart ... Joplin too

When it comes to the Gulf Oil Spill - and to almost everything that has already happended and there is nothing we can do to take it back.

I say there is largely no use crying over 'spilt milk'.

In the same light I believe it is time to stop blaming Bush, Obama, or whoever the hell --

-- Deal with the issues at Hand and get things right.

-- When it come to matters like 'Gulf Oil' bring out the FACTS and let everyone know the TRUTH. When it comes to what is really going on in Afganistan - or wherever - no matter how 'horrible the truth may be' - bring it all out -- own up to it -- deal with it and move on to making the 'world' and all the more the USA a better place.
 
Hey ya' ll

Please take anything I say with a 'grain of salt' ....

...I'm NOT trying to lay a 'heavy trip' on anyone ...:o:sick:


...I'm just trying to figure out how we got to where we are .... and hope I can make my own little corner a litte better


Well have a good one :cool:
 
WorkFE said:
The Lord and a sprinkle of evolution:D
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Amazingly -- I think this is in fact the most basic underlying TRUTH and if only we (as in everyone on the planet) could see it and know it.

The Lord brought all things into being: With that knowledge we (as in every person to live) should be so deeply grounded in the Native American mindset that it's central to all the ways we interact with the Earth and with one another.

If only people could have known how deeply sacred our planet has been and more fully understood it as a Living Entity - a more 'Spiritual Life' from which every LIFE has its grounding and by which all LIFE is maintained.

If everyone could have started - and been grounded with the deepness of this underlying truth - and we from the depths of our hearts and lives strived to pay honor and respect to our Planet -- then the core problem behind most of our problems could not exist.

Instead we let Corporations and Companies from the Super Power Nations go throughout the entire planet and take anything and everything of value and left only waste and destruction behind.

and a sprinkle of evolution: With that knowledge we (as in every person to live) should be so deeply grounded in the mindset that we are totally 100% EQUAL that it's central to all the ways we interact with the Earth and with one another.

If the Vietnamese - the Chinese - the Koreans - the Japanese - the Germans - the Mexicans - are in any manner 'different' from one another then it is nothing more than 'evolutionary changes' -- AND it has nothing to do with White Anglo Saxon Protestants - having any trace of being 'Superior' ....

...simply because our 'evolutionary' characteristics are different and give us a tinge of being distinct.

The FACTS ARE - we are the newest breed - and the newest Nation. How can we then possibly believe that by virtue of our 'genetic roots' we have a 'God Given Right' to go to any other Nation and regard them in the lowest possible manner??

Thank You !!! I love it when something can be reduced to something very basic and be the 'Ultimate Truth'.
 
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