G Fund Question

[99percent]

Is there an index, symbol or near equivalent to track the G Fund? Thanks

 

[Boghie]

Is there an index, symbol or near equivalent to track the G Fund? Thanks

No,

The 'G Fund' invests in Social Security bonds - the same ones the Federal Gubmint uses to fund a large chunk of its spending. They are not available to the public.

So, again, there is no near equivalent. You can consider it a high interest cash account. Hopefully

 

[burrocrat]

no symbol, but you can track the index real time every day you buy fuel or groceries.

when a dollar buys less stuff today than it did yesterday then you are losing money.

it's like that. pretty simple actually.

 

[PLANO]

 

[Birchtree]

To be fair, there is one positive to sitting in cash during the most disrespected bull market in history and it's this: if you reinvested those money market dividends each month, you will double your money in just 3,200 years.

 

[Boghie]

Is there an index, symbol or near equivalent to track the G Fund? Thanks

Because everybody else is a sm@rt@ss around here, why not me...

If you invest in the 'G Fund' you are investing in Social Security. You are going to be on the Alpo Meal Deal Retirement Plan. See Amoeba!!!

 

[clester]

Is there an index, symbol or near equivalent to track the G Fund? Thanks

It's pretty close to the 10 year treasury yield. So about 3% now.
It's a good deal. Guaranteed positive return as long as we don't default on our debt. I know there a a lot of skeptics on that but I'm not worried.

 

[alevin]

May not lose any money (a good thing), question is just how much purchasing power will it provide. A dollar is not a dollar, the way the Fed Reserve has played the game for past 70+ years and continues to play today. Inflation is not a good or necessary thing. stable purchasing power is. If they maintained stable purchasing power of the dollar, a raise would actually mean something in terms of improving standard of living, instead Middle Merica is falling down the purchasing power curve on stagnant wages.

More than one way to achieve the same goal, increasing minimum wage does not address the core problem which is fed reserve manipulation that causes $ to lose purchasing power over time. instead hiking min wage means everyone else wants/needs a hike too. where's the money come from? take a dollar, cut it in 2, label each half a dollar. Now you have 2. that's inflation. more dollars to go around, just takes 2 dollars now to buy what one dollar used to buy, keep chasing the almighty dollar just to stay in place and not lose ground. duh. system is designed to keep everyone wanting more more more. where does it stop? nobody knows.

 

[burrocrat]

where does it stop? nobody knows.

oh no, everybody knows where it stops, they just don't want to believe it. so they convince themselves a 10.75 oz box of cheerios is just as good as the 12 oz box, even though it costs more these days.

it stops where it always stops: somewhere in a mud hut 'purchased' from the previous owner with rocks and sticks. but only just after everyone realizes they took too much, because nobody ever stops while the taking is good.

care for a bowl of rice? i've extra put away, all you have to do is fight. no, no, don't worry, it's ok, the previous owner won't be needing it anymore.

 

[DreamboatAnnie]

https://www.tsp.gov/investmentfunds/annual/annualReturns.shtml

Here's the link to yearly return rate for each fund for past 10 years. The S fund is top performer, but when it drops it is the hardest hit. If we could just buy and hold but avoid the really bad years...:blink:

I'm still trying to understand how you can have all those high returns over many years, but even when you factor the negatives, the annual "average" return is so low! 10.79% for S fund.

 

[99percent]

Because everybody else is a sm@rt@ss around here, why not me...

If you invest in the 'G Fund' you are investing in Social Security. You are going to be on the Alpo Meal Deal Retirement Plan. See Amoeba!!!

Nah, just would like to track it on CNN Portfolio since I do keep some cash. Problem is when you sign up and choose the TSP Fund it hooks up to your TSP (Secure) Good so far but it gives you the wrong S Fund equivalent.

Not W4500 or the DWCPF. Gets the C Fund right and the G Fund. Whats nice about it is you get your daily results within a couple hours of COB. So I thought I should build my portfolio manually. I can put in all the correct
info for all Funds but the G.
Thanks for all the responses.

 

[Boghie]

Nah, just would like to track it on CNN Portfolio since I do keep some cash. Problem is when you sign up and choose the TSP Fund it hooks up to your TSP (Secure) Good so far but it gives you the wrong S Fund equivalent.

Not W4500 or the DWCPF. Gets the C Fund right and the G Fund. Whats nice about it is you get your daily results within a couple hours of COB. So I thought I should build my portfolio manually. I can put in all the correct
info for all Funds but the G.
Thanks for all the responses.

Actually, while I haven't used the CNN tool, I don't think it will be accurate. All the funds are managed internally. The F/C/I Funds are intended to match known indexes - but they are not exact matches and they reinvest dividends. The indexes do not.

The biggest problems are the G/S Funds. The G has NO matching index. The S is supposed to match the Dow Completion - but it seems to vary from it.

Personally, Quicken Premier seems the best tool for me. I have to hand enter the data now that BlackRock gives us our stuff in an Adobe format, but...

As a quick tool - and one not 'polluted' by contributions and dividends - the AutoTracker here is amazing. The best tool on the block - and a bit of Fantasy Investing Smack Talk as well... It is very hard to talk a game when you are on the AutoTracker... Very humbling...

 

[99percent]

You're right it won't work for me but it works great for my wifes Vanguard. It picked up her Boston Sci 401K and had all the correct data instantly. Oh well.