Furlough Thread

Senator: Instead of furloughs, trim deadwood -- FederalDaily.com

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Senator: Instead of furloughs, trim deadwood



Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) this week said that before furloughing employees in critical positions, agencies should remove from the federal payroll any employees who are "paid to do nothing."

"It makes little sense to furlough air traffic controllers and border patrol agents," Coburn wrote in a March 27 letter to Office of Personnel Management Director John Berry, "while retaining employees who are AWOL [absent without leave], on standby, not performing official duties, or sitting idle awaiting security clearances."

As an example, Coburn cited an oversight report on AWOL federal employees his office released in 2008 that found that employees at 18 departments and agencies were AWOL for "at least 19.6 million hours between 2001 and 2007."
Coburn also took aim at so-called "official time" that certain employees spend during work hours to attend to union-related activities. He pointed to an OPM report that found that such time spent by employees cost the federal government $155 million in 2011.

He also noted the expense of paying for "standby" employees.

"While it makes sense to have some on standby, such as employees of the Department of Defense and Veterans Affairs, others are less obvious, such as standby employees at the Agricultural Marketing Service," he wrote.

While most of his letter targeted federal workers, Coburn did not spare federal contractors, specifically those who are drawing pay while awaiting security clearances, which can take months.

"Under current arrangements, these employees are paid large salaries during waiting periods, but are not given meaningful work," he wrote, citing a Federal Times estimate that put the cost of wasted contractor man-hours at "between $900 million and $1.8 billion a month."

Coburn, ranking member of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, asked Berry to provide the committee with numbers and costs associated with standby hours, official time, AWOL employees, and security clearance delays.
 
agencies should remove from the federal payroll any employees who are "paid to do nothing."

This has a b r o a d definition - I can think of a couple dozen "employees" who's only job is to avoid
performing their duties. Mostly, managers that cant manage.
 
APNewsBreak:

Pentagon cuts number of furlough days


Source: Associated Press

APNewsBreak: Pentagon cuts number of furlough days
By LOLITA C. BALDOR | Associated Press • Published March 27, 2013

WASHINGTON – Defense officials say the Pentagon will sharply cut the number of unpaid furlough days civilians will have to take in the next several months from 22 to 14, reducing the financial impact of the budget cuts on as many as 700,000 workers.

Officials say Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel made the decision Wednesday. Military and defense leaders continue to work through the details, trying to decide how to allocate the more than $10 billion Congress shifted to operations accounts. Officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

Initially, civilians would have had to take one day off each week for 22 weeks.

Read more: APNewsBreak: Pentagon cuts number of furlough days - National Election Wire - The Olympian - Olympia, Washington news, weather and sports

The 'Washington Monument Game' got boring quick, eh...

We all know where this is going...
 
The 'Washington Monument Game' got boring quick, eh...

We all know where this is going...

Yeah, you got that right..a bunch of SH!T worring the real people that are trying to make an honest living..problem is we trusted our job security to a bunch azzholes in Washington..

Here is further evidence it's about to implode on them freaking morons..bastards!!!!..
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How long till FWM opines that DOD employees are getting a 4% pay increase since we are now 'scheduled' for 14 Sequester days rather than 22.
 
How long till FWM opines that DOD employees are getting a 4% pay increase since we are now 'scheduled' for 14 Sequester days rather than 22.

Now thats funny. I thought I was the only one waiting to see that one:D
 
Looks like both the Border Patrol and the FAA got bigger pay raises then me.
I am envious. Hey, FWM, it ain't fair. I deserve the same pay increase as all the other gubmint folk in my pay grade. Gimme mine!!!
 
Plans are beginning to back-fire and crumble...

Just so everyone understands- that those 149 towers are all contractors- no FAA government employees-- and by keeping those towers open while the FAA has to fight lawsuits- it means that FAA employees will likely be hit with more furlough days (currently proposed to be 11 days) than they otherwise would be.

None of this is a good thing.
 
Just so everyone understands- that those 149 towers are all contractors- no FAA government employees-- and by keeping those towers open while the FAA has to fight lawsuits- it means that FAA employees will likely be hit with more furlough days (currently proposed to be 11 days) than they otherwise would be.

None of this is a good thing.
Oh Bullcrap!!!...You don't know that, You are only speculating based on your own opinion alone..nothing of the sort has ever been mentioned..
Do you have any concrete facts as to this will be the alternative?
if so, Please present them here and now..
 
Just so everyone understands- that those 149 towers are all contractors- no FAA government employees-- and by keeping those towers open while the FAA has to fight lawsuits- it means that FAA employees will likely be hit with more furlough days (currently proposed to be 11 days) than they otherwise would be.

None of this is a good thing.

Washington Monument Game...

But, I do think we will feel real deflation. Every penny is sacred...

It would be best for everyone if the goobers fighting reality with lawsuits would allow the ratcheting down of salaries in a measured manner. Anyone want your 11 days of furlough to happen in September? We hired too many chunks of fat from 2009 onward. Folks believed that the downturn was a short one that could be alleviated through short term borrowing. Wrong move. Dumb idea. Now we have the additional salary structure of 200,000+ civilian employees. Is it fair to hire them and then cut them? Can you even do that in the gubmint. Dumb and Dumber.

Don't like what I am seeing, but that doesn't mean it ain't happening. The private sector will neither care nor bail us out of our largess...
 
if we fire all the contractors they might get discouraged enough to go on the dole, which would lower the participation rate, meaning the unemployment numbers would go down, which is a good thing, right?

Washington Monument Game...

But, I do think we will feel real deflation. Every penny is sacred...

It would be best for everyone if the goobers fighting reality with lawsuits would allow the ratcheting down of salaries in a measured manner. Anyone want your 11 days of furlough to happen in September? We hired too many chunks of fat from 2009 onward. Folks believed that the downturn was a short one that could be alleviated through short term borrowing. Wrong move. Dumb idea. Now we have the additional salary structure of 200,000+ civilian employees. Is it fair to hire them and then cut them? Can you even do that in the gubmint. Dumb and Dumber.

Don't like what I am seeing, but that doesn't mean it ain't happening. The private sector will neither care nor bail us out of our largess...
 
None of this is a good thing.

you are correct, sir. we should have just implemented the cuts in 2011 when the administration promoted and agreed to them in exchange for an increase in our credit card limit. now, two years later, we can only hope to somehow scrape up enough to pay the two year old ticket. plus interest. and the longer the meter runs the harder it is going to be to swallow.

everybody wants change. until it comes out of their pocket.
 
Oh Bullcrap!!!...You don't know that, You are only speculating based on your own opinion alone..nothing of the sort has ever been mentioned..
Do you have any concrete facts as to this will be the alternative?
if so, Please present them here and now..

The FAA has to save $637 million (operating budget), if the contract towers are not closed (50 million dollars savings) the FAA would have to increase furlough days from 11 to 14. Each furlough days saves the agency 15 million dollars. Though I guess the agency could try to find the 50 million from somewhere else in the operating fund. My project has gone from 19.2 million to 12.4 million already. Which is way above the 5.2% across the board cut.

On a side note, last week I heard from many sources that the furlough days will go from 11 to 5. However, this was prior to the annoucement on the contract towers.

I still believe no one knows anything.

Jeff
 
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The FAA has to save $637 million (operating budget), if the contract towers are not closed (50 million dollars savings) the FAA would have to increase furlough days from 11 to 14. Each furlough days saves the agency 15 million dollars. Though I guess the agency could try to find the 50 million from somewhere else in the operating fund. My project has gone from 19.2 million to 12.4 million already. Which is way above the 5.2% across the board cut.

On a side note, last week I heard from many sources that the furlough days will go from 11 to 5. However, this was prior to the annoucement on the contract towers.

I still believe no one knows anything.

Jeff

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