Furlough Thread

It's not a cut. It's a reduction in the increase in spending. There's still an increase in spending, just not as much. This is a made up crisis! It sucks that the administration, which is supposed to be labor friendly, will make us pay the price of their little temper tantrum.

Ah, No, it's not. That's just one of those right-wing talking points. All discretionary spending is reduced across the board by 8.5% from FY-2012 levels. It is true that overall spending is higher- as a result of non-discretionary spending- Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. However, the cuts to make the overall program lower (both discretionary and non-discretionary), and compressed into half-a-year , so the net result is actual reduction in discretionary dollar figures.

The law is found here: Public Law 112-25. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-112publ25/pdf/PLAW-112publ25.pdf


Furloughs are certain now.
 
It's not a cut. It's a reduction in the increase in spending. There's still an increase in spending, just not as much. This is a made up crisis! It sucks that the administration, which is supposed to be labor friendly, will make us pay the price of their little temper tantrum.

Spot on. Then why do federal employees, that have been on a pay freeze since Obama took office, need to be furloughed? We're receiving the same pay since 2009.
 
same delay here, Navy.

Speculation is that its still just the same number of days off, in a shorter period of time. The caveat of that is that we will soon be pushing the limit of the 2 days per pay period.

NNSY and PSNSY have both come out saying emolyees will be furloughed (essentially the yard will be closed) on alternating Friday's and Monday's beginning Friday, 26 April thru Friday, 20 Sep...
26 Apr
3 May
6 May
17 May
20 May
etc...

where I am we think that we will have freedom with what days we take off. With my work schedule that will make it 3x 10 hour days, 2 hrs of AL and then every weekend is a 4 day weekend.

A lot of people here want to take off all the days at once so they can collect unemployment.
 
We are not getting / extending furloughs, however we are not able to fill any vacancies that come open and we always have a big turnover this time of year. Right now I have two districts under me operating without supervisors and another district with one supervisor over 23 people. Morale is tremendously low because we are so short staffed.
 
Ah, No, it's not. That's just one of those right-wing talking points. All discretionary spending is reduced across the board by 8.5% from FY-2012 levels. It is true that overall spending is higher- as a result of non-discretionary spending- Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, etc. However, the cuts to make the overall program lower (both discretionary and non-discretionary), and compressed into half-a-year , so the net result is actual reduction in discretionary dollar figures.

The law is found here: Public Law 112-25. http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-112publ25/pdf/PLAW-112publ25.pdf


Furloughs are certain now.

talking points:
1 spending reductions could not be agreed to in 2011 so it was only credit limit increases.
2 spending reductions were agreed to be implemented on 01/01/13 a year and a half later in known and specific amounts.
3 spending reductions could not be agreed to in the meanwhile.
4 even with a year and a half lead time many departments continued to spend like reductions would not happen (gwasshoppas).
5 spending reductions could not be agreed to on 12/31/12 so it was only revenue increases and sequester delay at the new year.
6 spending reductions could no longer be kicked down the road so on 03/01/13 sequester went into effect.
7 those reductions are an annual amount spread over 7 months. they could have been spread over 9 months. or spread over 12 months had smarter spending reductions been agreed at anytime in nearly the last two years.
8 make it hurt. quick, everybody think of and lament publically all the ways spending reductions will hit the little people the most. weep and wail. the more the benefit recipient public experiences cuts the more likely they will vote for more spending. but keep putting off spending reductions until as late in the fiscal year as possible so it is really painful when we squeeze a years worth of spending growth reductions into not 9, not 7, yep you guessed it 3 months. ouch.
9 pass a continuing resolution to fund the gov the rest of the year no muss no deadline fuss as long as previously agreed to spending reductions remain implemented. see, wasn't that easy. why didn't we reduce the amount we increase spending before?
10 the elephant in the room. the longer we avoid addressing non-descretionary spending (social security, medicare) the harder it will hurt descretionary spending (wars, poisonous chickens, flowers in the park, flyers).
11 surprise surprise, who didn't see it coming?
 
Saw this on glocktalk.

MEMORANDUM FOR ALL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE EMPLOYEES
From the Attorney General, signature of Eric Holder, Jr

SUBJECT: Sequestration and Safety Actions Regarding the Bureau of Prisons Institutions

On March 21 , the Congress enacted the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013, providing full Fiscal Year (FY) 2013 funding for federal agencies. Unfortunately, the act did not provide any relief from the sequestration budget reductions of over $1.6 billion for the Department that became effective on March 1.

As a result, the Department is confronting significant funding and operational challenges across every component, with serious consequences for the administration ofjustice. Nevertheless, we must continue to perform our mission on behalf of the American people. While I recognize we need to take action to absorb these deep cuts, our actions must not threaten the life and safety related operations of the Department.

This week, using my limited authorities to transfer and allocate existing funds from within the Department, I provided $150 million to the Bureau of Prisons (BOP) to avoid furloughing correctional workers at our prison institutions. Absent this intervention, we faced the need to furlough 3,570 staff each day from the federal prisons around the country. The loss of these correctional officers and other staff who supervise the 176,000 prisoners at 119 institutions would have created serious threats to the lives and safety of our staff, inmates, and the public.

MEMORANDUM FOR ALL DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE EMPLOYEES
From the Attorney General, signature of Eric Holder, Jr

SUBJECT: Sequestration and Safety Actions Regarding the Bureau of Prisons Institutions

On March 21 , the Congress enacted the Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2013, providing full Fiscal Year (FY) 2013 funding for federal agencies. Unfortunately, the act did not provide any relief from the sequestration budget reductions of over $1.6 billion for the Department that became effective on March 1.

As a result, the Department is confronting significant funding and operational challenges across every component, with serious consequences for the administration ofjustice. Nevertheless, we must continue to perform our mission on behalf of the American people. While I recognize we need to take action to absorb these deep cuts, our actions must not threaten the life and safety related operations of the Department.

This week, using my limited authorities to transfer and allocate existing funds from within the Department, I provided $150 million to the Bureau of Prisons (BOP) to avoid furloughing correctional workers at our prison institutions. Absent this intervention, we faced the need to furlough 3,570 staff each day from the federal prisons around the country. The loss of these correctional officers and other staff who supervise the 176,000 prisoners at 119 institutions would have created serious threats to the lives and safety of our staff, inmates, and the public.

I am thankful for the full and immediate support our action received from the Administration and from our congressional appropriations subcommittee chairs and ranking members: Senator Barbara Mikulski; Congressman Frank Wolf; Senator Richard Shelby; and Congressman Chaka Fattah.

The Department's actions can protect BOP's facilities only through the end of the fiscal year in September and these actions do not address the serious life and safety issues that the BOP faces next year under continued funding at the post-sequestration levels. Further, none of the Department's actions can mitigate every harm faced by BOP.

I recognize that other components of the Department perform critical lifeand safety, national security, and criminal justice services on behalf of the public. I am deeply troubled by the impact the sequester will have on the Department's capacity to prevent terrorism, combat violent crime, partner with state and local law enforcement agencies, and protect the judiciary and our most vulnerable citizens. I am also troubled by the damaging impact of these cuts and
resultant furloughs on you, our Justice workforce. I am still evaluating whether we have the
ability to avoid other furloughs in the Department this year. I will do all that I can to minimize
the impact of these events on your lives.

We have already required extensive cuts to travel, training, contracts, and other areas of spending in order to maintain our mission priorities. The Department will continue to explore additional options to minimize the harm of sequestration to our mission and to our employees. As I have said before, this is a time that requires our resilience. Now, more than ever, we need to work together as colleagues to protect our core functions and discharge our fundamental responsibilities. As more information on our status becomes clear I will continue to keep you informed."
I am thankful for the full and immediate support our action received from the Administration and from our congressional appropriations subcommittee chairs and ranking members: Senator Barbara Mikulski; Congressman Frank Wolf; Senator Richard Shelby; and Congressman Chaka Fattah.

The Department's actions can protect BOP's facilities only through the end of the fiscal year in September and these actions do not address the serious life and safety issues that the BOP faces next year under continued funding at the post-sequestration levels. Further, none of the Department's actions can mitigate every harm faced by BOP.

I recognize that other components of the Department perform critical lifeand safety, national security, and criminal justice services on behalf of the public. I am deeply troubled by the impact the sequester will have on the Department's capacity to prevent terrorism, combat violent crime, partner with state and local law enforcement agencies, and protect the judiciary and our most vulnerable citizens. I am also troubled by the damaging impact of these cuts and
resultant furloughs on you, our Justice workforce. I am still evaluating whether we have the
ability to avoid other furloughs in the Department this year. I will do all that I can to minimize
the impact of these events on your lives.

We have already required extensive cuts to travel, training, contracts, and other areas of spending in order to maintain our mission priorities. The Department will continue to explore additional options to minimize the harm of sequestration to our mission and to our employees. As I have said before, this is a time that requires our resilience. Now, more than ever, we need to work together as colleagues to protect our core functions and discharge our fundamental responsibilities. As more information on our status becomes clear I will continue to keep you informed."
 
[h=1]"Ending special corporate tax breaks would pay for the sequester cuts twice over."[/h] More than 200 people rallied at the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard yesterday to rally against the budget cuts known as “sequestration”.

At the same time they were rallying, Congress passed a bill to make most of those cuts permanent.

That bill – the “continuing resolution” to fund the federal government for six months – also rescinded a long-planned increase in pay for federal workers.

. . .

As Portsmouth Shipyard worker John Joyal told the crowd yesterday:

. . .

“That flag right there does not belong to the right-wing of the GOP of our Congress, that flag belongs to the American people. What the US Congress needs to do is, they need to grow up, put their differences aside, go into a room and perform the people’s business just like the people on this island do, every single day.

There are other options. Ending special corporate tax breaks would pay for the sequester cuts twice over. Ending tax breaks on unearned income would pay for the sequester cuts — plus everything the House GOP wants to cut from next year’s federal budget.

LINK:

The one video every Republican, Democrat and Independent must see!!! - NH Labor News
 
Mike Causey has a good writeup this morning:

Furlough Day To the tune of: "The Banana Boat Song."
Original parody by Frank DeLima
New words by Saul Schniderman


Fur - Furlough Day- O
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME
Fur-Furlough Day Furlough Day Furlough Day is Low-Low
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME

We go to work to help the USA
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME
But the Congress put us in disarray
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME

Now we workers get un-paid vacation
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME
And our families have plenty of frustration
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME

It's one day, five days, ten days off
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME
Too many days and the brain gets soft!
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME.

We're federal employees and we have a mission
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME
To be a good worker and be a good citizen
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME

Day, miss-a-day Oh
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME
Day, miss-a-day, miss-a-week, miss-a-month, miss-a-paycheck … Oh-Oh!
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME

The union is making a great big fuss
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME
Hey somebody's gotta take care of us
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME

Come Mr. Manager start negotiations
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME
We're fighting for the future, we're fighting for the nation
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME

Fur, Furlough Day, Furlough Day, Furlough Day is Low-Low
FURLOUGH COME AND WE GOTTA STAY HOME!

Sorry- I just had to do that....

More:
The Ballad of the Furloughed - FederalNewsRadio.com
 
Defense officials say the Pentagon will sharply cut the number of unpaid furlough days civilians will have to take in the next several months from 22 to 14, reducing the financial impact of the budget cuts on as many as 700,000 workers.

News from The Associated Press
 
APNewsBreak:

Pentagon cuts number of furlough days


Source: Associated Press

APNewsBreak: Pentagon cuts number of furlough days
By LOLITA C. BALDOR | Associated Press • Published March 27, 2013

WASHINGTON – Defense officials say the Pentagon will sharply cut the number of unpaid furlough days civilians will have to take in the next several months from 22 to 14, reducing the financial impact of the budget cuts on as many as 700,000 workers.

Officials say Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel made the decision Wednesday. Military and defense leaders continue to work through the details, trying to decide how to allocate the more than $10 billion Congress shifted to operations accounts. Officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

Initially, civilians would have had to take one day off each week for 22 weeks.

Read more: APNewsBreak: Pentagon cuts number of furlough days - National Election Wire - The Olympian - Olympia, Washington news, weather and sports
 
Great. Went from a kick in the head to a punch in the goolies.

http://www.federalnewsradio.com/1103/3265806/Pentagon-cuts-number-of-furlough-days-to-14
"While some of the military services initially considered eliminating the furloughs altogether, senior leaders argued that since not all the services could do that, it would be better to treat all civilians across the defense department equally."
 
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