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Or you can now use TapaTalk again!Fort Hood
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James48843
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Not that it matters at all, but that "yellowcake" was there before 1991, was documented, tagged, and inspected by UN inspectors, and was never really a risk-- it was not concentrated enough even to make a dirty bomb, there was nothing to convert it into enriched product, and is was not really any reason to do anything- we knew about it in 1991, and there was nothing new.
James48843
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Hey Frixx, do your own research. Quit relying on others so much.
By the way, there's enough evidence on the Iraq matter to have impeached both Bush and Cheney. I guess most of you were just waiting for a blue dress attached to Clinton to spend around 50 million dollars to investigate that matter. This other stuff about a trillion dollars of taxpayer resources and hundreds of thousands of lives probably just wasn't that important to a lot of you. :laugh:
Also from the article:
Further, in March 2003, the Director General of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) released results of his analysis of the documents. Reportedly, it took IAEA officials only a matter of hours to determine that these documents were fake. Using little more than a Google search, IAEA experts discovered indications of a crude forgery, such as the use of incorrect names of Nigerian officials. As a result, the IAEA reported to the U.N. Security Council that the documents were "in fact not authentic".
Don't matter, he'll find an Al-Jazeer video that shows the convoy, but says they're trucking it IN!!!
What alevin said!
Steadygain
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Wow, this is pretty amazing stuff !
Seems like it should be in the Progressives Thread though ...
..... since we're finally making Progress
Well good night all you scalley wags
James48843
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Wasn't this thread about Fort Hood?
Frixxxx
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Get off your horse, newbie..
James pointed this out in 2008:
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=190207&postcount=23
Now, the RESEARCH had been done and we already knew this to be false. I was and have been an active member here before then and before you.
I knew this already but made a joke at your expense....call me out on something else. Your attacks are getting less and less fact based and more emotional based.:suspicious:I'm not attacking at all, and you started it. I finished it.
If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
Get off your horse, newbie..
James pointed this out in 2008:
http://www.tsptalk.com/mb/showpost.php?p=190207&postcount=23
Now, the RESEARCH had been done and we already knew this to be false. I was and have been an active member here before then and before you.
I knew this already but made a joke at your expense....call me out on something else. Your attacks are getting less and less fact based and more emotional based.:suspicious:
Steadygain
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Forgive him Phil, he's just like the rest of us....:embarrest:
.... Phil, I think the main problem is the bulk of us are dumb as hell and your like super genius ... so we're not relating because you're talking on levels we've never remotely touched ...
... and you've left our levels by the time you were 5 years old.
Anyway -- just out of curiosity ... I was wondering how much the USA owes 'us' for 'wasting all the money on Iraq and stuff'
You know deep down it seems like this country 'owes us' ....
I started this morning off asking you about that ....
.....and I'm honestly heading home .... but wondered what you think if you don't mind checking it out ....
.... well be cool everyone ... and I don't care if you all fuss a little here and there ..... but wait for me before any real action takes placeAt one time in our history, I could honestly say that America was a positive force for good in the world. After invading a foreign country where we had no reason, I can no longer make that statement.
All we really owe to our children, who we've put in debt, is an explanation. All we owe the rest of the world is also an explanation that we probably can't offer any longer. It's similar to Vietnam. The destruction of our economy and our relations to the rest of the world are not easily explained, and I'm wondering if anyone is left who can.
The people who were the architects of this policy are now running and hiding as fast as they can. A lot of other people simply haven't caught up to that fact yet, but they will in the coming years, no doubt. It took the architect of the Vietnam War, MacNamara, about 30 years to explain the rationale. It only took the neocons about 30 minutes after the last administration to walk away from their former actions.
Our country impeached a former President for lying about an affair. Where's the other side to this? Has anyone impeached former administration people for spending a trillion dollars and killing hundreds of thousands of people, for lying to the American public?
The answer is fairly simple to all these questions.
WorkFE
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You know not what you spewStill waiting for my link where A-J was showing beheadings. I guess you're too embarassed to say that it doesn't exist, which is why you just made it up. Making things up just gets you trouble.
Steadygain
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www.greenteadiary.com Phil this is my first daughter's blog. She graduated top in High School and received all kinds of recogniztion during college at a Private Christian College.
Our explanation to her is that GOD is far above and beyond our human flaws -- that all people deserve the deepest respect and that we should strive to love one another and extend ourselves on their behalf. This has been her grounding...
PLEASE -- look at her life
Emily -- my second daughter is also attending a Private Christian College -- ranked the TOP Midwest College every year she's been there. She is presently in INDIA -- extending her life for others; she went to Hatii last Summer and extended herself for many orphans and still is very attached to the Orphanage ... and we support it.
Carrie, my youngest is still maintaining straight As. She has a 4.0. None of them have ever used drugs Phil -- not even once. Never tasted Alcohol or ever puffed on anything.
Carrie is dedicating her life for the benefit of others.
So Phil if we owe our Children any kind of explanation it is wholly why we have to live our lifes for others; why we have to set the example; why we have to love the unloving; show mercy to the underserving;
why we ultimately have to be the Light of GOD'S Grace and Love to a cold and uncaring world.
God bless you Phil --- I know you're an atheist -- but I hope will all my heart you can feel His Love and enjoy all He has to offer.
James48843
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Yes, I do. Yellowcake is not considered a hazardous material under transportation regulations, because it's not concentrated enough in it's natural state to create a hazard. You can drive it around in a dump truck if you like.
http://coloradoindependent.com/3827...cake-uranium-trucks-can-go-wherever-they-wantWhen Iraq obtained the yellowcake in 1981....let's see....what was happening around the world then:
According to the censured portion of Iraq’s December 7, 2002 declaration to the UN (see December 7, 2002) (see December 19, 2002), Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and Sandia National Laboratories help train Iraqi nuclear weapons scientists and provide nonfissile material for Iraq’s nuclear weapons program.
The US closely monitors “third country arms sales to Iraq to make sure Iraq [has] the military weaponry required.” [Affidavit. United States v. Carlos Cardoen, et al. [Charge that Teledyne Wah Chang Albany illegally provided a proscribed substance, zirconium, to Cardoen Industries and to Iraq], 1/31/1995
; Washington Post, 12/30/2002]
The CIA secretly provides Iraqi intelligence with instructions on how to “calibrate” its mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops. [Washington Post, 12/15/1986]
http://www.historycommons.org/context.jsp?item=us_iraq_80s_844
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Buster
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Until now..I was having this nagging feeling that I have read about Phil before..something about his arrogance and self righteousness struck a familiar cord...I have found the Name of that sad melody about this cretin we here know as Phil....Forgive him Phil, he's just like the rest of us....:embarrest:
.... Phil, I think the main problem is the bulk of us are dumb as hell and your like super genius ... so we're not relating because you're talking on levels we've never remotely touched ...
... and you've left our levels by the time you were 5 years old.
I give you the reincarnation of...
The Man without a Country
[SIZE=-2]1[/SIZE] ...One and another of the colonels and majors were tried, and, to fill out the list little Nolan, against whom, Heaven knows, there was evidence enough,—that he was sick of the service, had been willing to be false to it, and would have obeyed any order to march any-whither with any one who would follow him had the order been signed, “By command of His Exc. A. Burr.” The courts dragged on. The big flies escaped,—rightly for all I know. Nolan was proved guilty enough, as I say; yet you and I would never have heard of him, reader, but that, when the president of the court asked him at the close whether he wished to say anything to show that he had always been faithful to the United States, he cried out, in a fit of frenzy,—[SIZE=-2] 6[/SIZE] “Damn the United States! I wish I may never hear of the United States again!”
http://www.bartelby.com/310/6/1.htmlWell, well. Still striving for originality? Just continue to quote Breitbart.:laugh:
How little you really know.
Scrappy
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Steady, if you require further explanation about the 10 characteristics below, please PM me and I will provide an explanantion in layman's terms for you.
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We hope this information will be of use if you encounter a conspiraloon while on the boards.
10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists
A useful guide by Donna Ferentes
1. Arrogance. They are always fact-seekers, questioners, people who are trying to discover the truth: sceptics are always "sheep", patsies for Messrs Bush and Blair etc.
2. Relentlessness. They will always go on and on about a conspiracy no matter how little evidence they have to go on or how much of what they have is simply discredited. (Moreover, as per 1. above, even if you listen to them ninety-eight times, the ninety-ninth time, when you say "no thanks", you'll be called a "sheep" again.) Additionally, they have no capacity for precis whatsoever. They go on and on at enormous length.
3. Inability to answer questions. For people who loudly advertise their determination to the principle of questioning everything, they're pretty poor at answering direct questions from sceptics about the claims that they make.
4. Fondness for certain stock phrases. These include Cicero's "cui bono?" (of which it can be said that Cicero understood the importance of having evidence to back it up) and Conan Doyle's "once we have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however unlikely, must be the truth". What these phrases have in common is that they are attempts to absolve themselves from any responsibility to produce positive, hard evidence themselves: you simply "eliminate the impossible" (i.e. say the official account can't stand scrutiny) which means that the wild allegation of your choice, based on "cui bono?" (which is always the government) is therefore the truth.
5. Inability to employ or understand Occam's Razor. Aided by the principle in 4. above, conspiracy theorists never notice that the small inconsistencies in the accounts which they reject are dwarfed by the enormous, gaping holes in logic, likelihood and evidence in any alternative account.
6. Inability to tell good evidence from bad. Conspiracy theorists have no place for peer-review, for scientific knowledge, for the respectability of sources. The fact that a claim has been made by anybody, anywhere, is enough for them to reproduce it and demand that the questions it raises be answered, as if intellectual enquiry were a matter of responding to every rumour. While they do this, of course, they will claim to have "open minds" and abuse the sceptics for apparently lacking same.
7. Inability to withdraw. It's a rare day indeed when a conspiracy theorist admits that a claim they have made has turned out to be without foundation, whether it be the overall claim itself or any of the evidence produced to support it. Moreover they have a liking (see 3. above) for the technique of avoiding discussion of their claims by "swamping" - piling on a whole lot more material rather than respond to the objections sceptics make to the previous lot.
8. Leaping to conclusions. Conspiracy theorists are very keen indeed to declare the "official" account totally discredited without having remotely enough cause so to do. Of course this enables them to wheel on the Conan Doyle quote as in 4. above. Small inconsistencies in the account of an event, small unanswered questions, small problems in timing of differences in procedure from previous events of the same kind are all more than adequate to declare the "official" account clearly and definitively discredited. It goes without saying that it is not necessary to prove that these inconsistencies are either relevant, or that they even definitely exist.
9. Using previous conspiracies as evidence to support their claims. This argument invokes scandals like the Birmingham Six, the Bologna station bombings, the Zinoviev letter and so on in order to try and demonstrate that their conspiracy theory should be accorded some weight (because it's “happened before”.) They do not pause to reflect that the conspiracies they are touting are almost always far more unlikely and complicated than the real-life conspiracies with which they make comparison, or that the fact that something might potentially happen does not, in and of itself, make it anything other than extremely unlikely.
10. It's always a conspiracy. And it is, isn't it? No sooner has the body been discovered, the bomb gone off, than the same people are producing the same old stuff, demanding that there are questions which need to be answered, at the same unbearable length. Because the most important thing about these people is that they are people entirely lacking in discrimination. They cannot tell a good theory from a bad one, they cannot tell good evidence from bad evidence and they cannot tell a good source from a bad one. And for that reason, they always come up with the same answer when they ask the same question.
A person who always says the same thing, and says it over and over again is, of course, commonly considered to be, if not a monomaniac, then at very least, a bore.
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