F Fund where will it go ?

[Braveheart]

My gut feeling is to move to G for tomorrow and back to F for Monday, markets too schizophrenic now...look at the overseas markets today, really down - BUT I trying to not hop around since it really looks like they are going to go through with the IFT limits. THIS IS TOUGH!

Yes I think tomorrow is a risk. Look at yesterday the F Fund was up 10 cents and that was when the market was actually up but people knew it was inflated so they moved to Bonds etc. Look at today the F Fund is struggling and the market was down earlier 225 points yet the F Fund was only up 2 cents. That is why it's a bad play tomorrow and with the reports coming out the F could lose which is what we would want to set up the IFT tomorrow for Monday when we move back in. See 350 Z Posts as well.

Good Luck

 

[Tomncath]

See 350 Z Posts as well.
Good Luck

Yup, that's where I started this whole conversation...leaning heavily toward and IFT to G.

 

[whitemingo]

Yes I think tomorrow is a risk. Look at yesterday the F Fund was up 10 cents and that was when the market was actually up but people knew it was inflated so they moved to Bonds etc. Look at today the F Fund is struggling and the market was down earlier 225 points yet the F Fund was only up 2 cents. That is why it's a bad play tomorrow and with the reports coming out the F could lose which is what we would want to set up the IFT tomorrow for Monday when we move back in. See 350 Z Posts as well.

When was the F Fund up this morning? It opened down and has continued down.

 

[nnuut]

The chart at the bottom of the page for the AGG is almost always WRONG!

 

[Tomncath]

I'll probably hate myself for this but I'm staying put...gotta remind myself intermediate-term moves...ohmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I see Z went to G

 

[Braveheart]

Yes I think tomorrow is a risk. Look at yesterday the F Fund was up 10 cents and that was when the market was actually up but people knew it was inflated so they moved to Bonds etc. Look at today the F Fund is struggling and the market was down earlier 225 points yet the F Fund was only up 2 cents. That is why it's a bad play tomorrow and with the reports coming out the F could lose which is what we would want to set up the IFT tomorrow for Monday when we move back in. See 350 Z Posts as well.

When was the F Fund up this morning? It opened down and has continued down.

At one point the F Fund was 3.41 -6 today. In overnight futures trading it was up. Before the day is over it will gain today.

 

[Braveheart]

At one point the F Fund was 3.41 -6 today. In overnight futures trading it was up. Before the day is over it will gain today.

Well that theory about the F got the boot today. This is like playing a bad slot machine. :suspicious:

 

[nnuut]

Right now it looks like $.07 for the "F" fund today. That will change by the end of the day!

 

[Silverbird]

Sigh, F Fund taking a lunch break, not much volume. Everybody doing one of these:worried:.

 

[Tomncath]

Right now it looks like $.07 for the "F" fund today. That will change by the end of the day!

It did!

 

[nnuut]

Yep $.06 Or $.07! I hope?:embarrest:

 

[Tomncath]

Yep $.06 Or $.07! I hope?:embarrest:

Fingers crossed! :blink:

 

[Tomncath]

Am I imaging things or did we get an 11th hour spike!

 

[nnuut]

Bond Market closes at 15:00!!

 

[nnuut]

Fingers crossed! :blink:

Would you believe $.05 today, must have averaged us down a penny?
Close 15:00
TNX =.-1.06 http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?c=$tnx
TYX = -1.13 http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=tyx

-.0113.+ -.0106 = -.0219 x .25 = -.005475 / $.09 = -.0608 cents
- minus is a gain in the "F", + plus is a loss.

OK mathamaticians I know there is a better way, but this is close!

 

[hessian]

Just in general, is F, an OK place to remain for this week?
- Interest is intermediate term, such as, thru end of the month?

Been holding, 65%F, wondering is there any reason to think it would go down? -or will it likely hold up OK?
Thanks :blink:

 

[thamm]

Would you believe $.05 today, must have averaged us down a penny?
Close 15:00
TNX =.-1.06 http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?c=$tnx
TYX = -1.13 http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=tyx

-.0113.+ -.0106 = -.0219 x .25 = -.005475 / $.09 = -.0608 cents
- minus is a gain in the "F", + plus is a loss.

OK mathamaticians I know there is a better way, but this is close!

NNUUT,

I am trying to get a better handle on the F fund calculation. Does the denominator of $.09 change? I saw where it was 10 on another post? Thx in advance.

 

[350zCommTech]

NNUUT,

I am trying to get a better handle on the F fund calculation. Does the denominator of $.09 change? I saw where it was 10 on another post? Thx in advance.

It should be 10. Don't know where the .09 came from.

 

[Tomncath]

Just in general, is F, an OK place to remain for this week?
- Interest is intermediate term, such as, thru end of the month?

Been holding, 65%F, wondering is there any reason to think it would go down? -or will it likely hold up OK?
Thanks :blink:

Moot point for me. Unfortunatly I jumped in and out of the F Fund when the japs pulled their money out , thus I've made 3 IFTs this month so I'm stuck unless the 10yr MACD bottoms out and I decide to bail to G with the knowledge I'll probably be locked out at the end of April (until the new automated system is implemented). Right now long-term CP is key even tho I know I'll take a hit tomorrow, markets should rally but it will be short-lived and then down we go again...hopefully the F Fund will hold up for awhile.

 

[amoeba]

good question!

Just in general, is F, an OK place to remain for this week?
- Interest is intermediate term, such as, thru end of the month?

Been holding, 65%F, wondering is there any reason to think it would go down? -or will it likely hold up OK?
Thanks :blink:

Hmmm - Hessian and I think alike; that's just about where I'm at (and have been at least 50% F since last July); been watching the fluctuations and its been building on the 50 day MA without crossing it significantly, but it does seem close to a 2 yr high. I'm wondering the same thing, and really don't know the answer. I actually pared down to 60% F recently.

There are times you can see rotations between stock and bond funds (or commodities) in trimtabs and such, but F has been a buy and hold for quite awhile; and a good one. I don't see much in the numbers (employment, philly) that supported today's C rally - there could be something else going on with options expirations or who know's what? (is there that much dumb money out there?).

Next week should be interesting. I guess we'll see.