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Crash of 2011 happening now?
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Warrenlm
Well-known member
Short selling is one thing but why is naked short selling not simply prohibited? It seems to have an adverse effect to the orderly pricing of a share.Europe Considers Ban on Short Selling
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/12/business/global/europe-considers-ban-on-short-selling.html?_r=2
Sure hope that doesn't happen, would America be next?
burrocrat
Well-known member
Because prohibiting it would have an adverse effect on the orderly profit of the casino.
RealMoneyIssues
Well-known member
What capitulation??? We haven't hit the bottom, so apparently the Wall Street gurus aren't done draining the money from our accounts...
I would call this a correction; but not a crash; it's not even a 12-month low yet in the SPY; gold is inflated; and there may be a news-based blip up tomorrow with Gaddafi taking a dive.
Bottoming should take a little while, at least till end of september, imo, and maybe much longer. Things may get better, worse, or stay the same (bad).
Bottoming should take a little while, at least till end of september, imo, and maybe much longer. Things may get better, worse, or stay the same (bad).
James48843
Well-known member
Here- would you like some hot cocoa?
I always feel better, after losing say, 60 or 70 thousand dollars in a downturn- I always feel better after a cup of hot cocoa.
I always feel better, after losing say, 60 or 70 thousand dollars in a downturn- I always feel better after a cup of hot cocoa.
KevinD
Well-known member
I remember some time after the 08 crash/March 09 bottom there being a lot of comparisons to the 29 crash/retest of the lows. Anybody remember what I'm talking about? There were charts showing the correlation between the two time frames with one overlaid on top of the other.
I wonder where we are now in comparison to the great depression?
I wonder where we are now in comparison to the great depression?
alevin
Well-known member
funny you bring that up, I've been keeping an eye on those charts periodically. inflation and non-inflation adjusted ones both.
http://www.tsptalk.com/charts/markets/mega-bear-weekly-2000.html?mega-bear-2000-nominal.gifhttp://advisorperspectives.com/dsho...r-weekly-2000.html?mega-bear-2000-nominal.gif
http://advisorperspectives.com/dsho...bear-weekly-2000.html?mega-bear-2000-real.gifhttp://www.tsptalk.com/charts/markets/mega-bear-weekly-2000.html?mega-bear-2000-nominal.gif
malyla
Active member
Interesting that the Dow and Nikkei show a bottom, not the bottom, but a bottom ~13 years from the start of the decline. That would have us at a bottom in 2013ish which is what a lot of the elliott wave and long cycle wave analysis predict. Interesting...
starfox182
Member
S&P now at 1141!!!! Dax down 5.44%
Update: 1140
Update: 1138
Update: 1140
Update: 1138
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polarbear
Member
Re: Music Videos
Oh, I already put that, I meant: It's my life.
Yeah, as Starfox182 and Malyla have just pointed out, European indices closed way down: CAC and DAX down 5%, FTSE more than 2%, and the US futs (D, SP, N) all down more than 2%, like 1143-1441, hmm. First caught it on TV: CNBC. As Weezer would say: Remarkable. This could get interesting.
What I suspect is, this is not just some damn stinkin B down in a counterwave Primary whatever up after a truncated int.v down. This is beginning to look like an extended int.iv sideways and now we're going to get a real full-bird int.v down. Just my thot. I wish Uptrend would sound off.
Hey and I will be connected every day while I will be on travel so no sweat. You've got to hand it to Best Western, as low as Motel 6 and Super 8, counting every 3 days, but you get more, including the crummy free bkfst.
Oh, I already put that, I meant: It's my life.
Yeah, as Starfox182 and Malyla have just pointed out, European indices closed way down: CAC and DAX down 5%, FTSE more than 2%, and the US futs (D, SP, N) all down more than 2%, like 1143-1441, hmm. First caught it on TV: CNBC. As Weezer would say: Remarkable. This could get interesting.
What I suspect is, this is not just some damn stinkin B down in a counterwave Primary whatever up after a truncated int.v down. This is beginning to look like an extended int.iv sideways and now we're going to get a real full-bird int.v down. Just my thot. I wish Uptrend would sound off.
Hey and I will be connected every day while I will be on travel so no sweat. You've got to hand it to Best Western, as low as Motel 6 and Super 8, counting every 3 days, but you get more, including the crummy free bkfst.
Okay, guys. I'm just a total N00b without a clue. I just started on this site yesterday. I've got a fair bit of dough in my TSP and it is all sitting divvied up between C, I, S. I'd like to know what you think I should do right now - TODAY - just to get things set so I can begin to study the situation and make smart moves. I thought I would start by putting everything in G, directing my future payday purchases into G and THEN begin to actually think. What do you say? Is it reasonable?
jkenjohnson
Active member
You will probably get 10 different answers to your question. I don't want to advise you but the top 50 in the Tracker are mostly in the G fund, as I am, right now.
Viva_La_Migra
Well-known member
I doubt you'll get anyone here to tell you, with absolute certainty, what you should do with your money. If you've been paying into the TSP for more than ten years, you'll lock in losses you've had from the recession if you pull your money out now. Then again, we appear to be on the precipice of dipping back down to the lows of 2008, so maybe now is a good time to protect your capital and move your money to the G fund. It's a gamble either way. Do you feel lucky?
I personally have my new contributions buying new shares of C and S every payday. The few pennies I might lose if I buy high are offset buy the few pennies I make when I buy low, so buying shares each payday makes sense to me. Your mileage may vary.
The market is fairly volatile right now, and we have a limited number of interfund transfers available to us, so keep that in mind when you make your decision. Good luck.
If your not into tracking it every other week then just set it in life fund 2040 and forget it
polarbear
Member
Re: Music Videos
It's looking like I was wrong, the major B seems to have ended and we seem to be starting a major C up to complete a primary B up to be followed by a primary C down according to Tony Caldaro, wheeee! The Europe and Obama et al. stuff is so unpredictable in the short term, it isn't even funny.
It's looking like I was wrong, the major B seems to have ended and we seem to be starting a major C up to complete a primary B up to be followed by a primary C down according to Tony Caldaro, wheeee! The Europe and Obama et al. stuff is so unpredictable in the short term, it isn't even funny.
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