Arizona Immigration law

[PessOptimist]

VLM and anyone else involved in border enforcement be careful out there!

Story time: Profiling does not appear to be happening in the Yuma area. A while ago there was a power outage along the border that put some surveillance systems out. Our dispatchers woke up the nearest employee at his motel and told him to go assess the situation while other employees were responding. While he was driving along the power line to the facility, he was stopped by the border patrol. He presented his gov ID and explained what he was doing. Since the systems were down, a backup BP unit took his ID somewhere to verify it. That unit returned about 20 minutes later and needed another ID, preferrably a drivers license. Our employee presented his license and the unit took off for another 20-30 minutes. When the backup returned, the agents gave both IDs back to the employee and allowed him to continue on his mission.

Power to the area was restored shortly thereafter and the border patrol systems came back on line. Kudos to these ever vigilant agents and their detainment of a gov employee driving a GSA vehicle while com systems were down. This guy is of Italian-Portuguese descent and speaks with a northeast dialect. I suppose I would have been suspicious too. We still laugh about this incident.

The point is that there is no profiling of "Hispanic-Americans" taking place in Yuma. If any persons came over the fence while surveillance system was out and two agents were tied up for over an hour would not be something I would care to speculate on.

Good work, ICE!

 

[XL-entLady]

Yep, which is exactly why my brother was told to carry his birth certificate while travelling in AZ.

 

[PessOptimist]

XL these were feds enforcing federal laws, has nothing to do with a not yet in force change to Arizona statutes.

 

[Steadygain]

VLM and anyone else involved in border enforcement be careful out there!

Story time: Profiling does not appear to be happening in the Yuma area. A while ago there was a power outage along the border that put some surveillance systems out. Our dispatchers woke up the nearest employee at his motel and told him to go assess the situation while other employees were responding. While he was driving along the power line to the facility, he was stopped by the border patrol. He presented his gov ID and explained what he was doing. Since the systems were down, a backup BP unit took his ID somewhere to verify it. That unit returned about 20 minutes later and needed another ID, preferrably a drivers license. Our employee presented his license and the unit took off for another 20-30 minutes. When the backup returned, the agents gave both IDs back to the employee and allowed him to continue on his mission.

Power to the area was restored shortly thereafter and the border patrol systems came back on line. Kudos to these ever vigilant agents and their detainment of a gov employee driving a GSA vehicle while com systems were down. This guy is of Italian-Portuguese descent and speaks with a northeast dialect. I suppose I would have been suspicious too. We still laugh about this incident.

The point is that there is no profiling of "Hispanic-Americans" taking place in Yuma. If any persons came over the fence while surveillance system was out and two agents were tied up for over an hour would not be something I would care to speculate on.

Good work, ICE!

I also extend my deepest appreciation to VLM and all who honestly have to put their lives on the line as a profession. Alevie would frequently talk about her concern for fellow workers who put their life in danger - but it's something they have to do.

We can't help the way we are PessOptimist and there is probably no one who could help but notice someone that appeared to be 'a more likely foreigner'.

The BP guy was doing his job and should be given credit for that. The mistake was 'Not getting 2 IDs'. If he answered to me I would have made him get the 2nd ID. If he had let someone pass through without doing his job - he would have paid for it. So he should have learned from this and next time he'll know -- but as far as 'mistakes' go - he would have done far worse to assume 'The guy looked good so I waved him on'.

 

[nnuut]

IF the law is violated the perpetrator should be detained and face the consequences just like anyone else in the USA! This won't be easy but needs to be done.:worried:

 

[Frixxxx]

Yep, which is exactly why my brother was told to carry his birth certificate while travelling in AZ.

Is your brother expecting to break the law in Arizona? I'm not getting this statement?:blink:

 

[Viva_La_Migra]

Is your brother expecting to break the law in Arizona? I'm not getting this statement?:blink:

Wild eyed hysteria.:cheesy:

 

[PessOptimist]

I also extend my deepest appreciation to VLM and all who honestly have to put their lives on the line as a profession. Alevie would frequently talk about her concern for fellow workers who put their life in danger - but it's something they have to do.

We can't help the way we are PessOptimist and there is probably no one who could help but notice someone that appeared to be 'a more likely foreigner'.

The BP guy was doing his job and should be given credit for that. The mistake was 'Not getting 2 IDs'. If he answered to me I would have made him get the 2nd ID. If he had let someone pass through without doing his job - he would have paid for it. So he should have learned from this and next time he'll know -- but as far as 'mistakes' go - he would have done far worse to assume 'The guy looked good so I waved him on'.

OK everyone, a little clarification. As I stated in my "story time" post, the intent was to say that the federal enforcers are not profiling anyone and are checking everyone.
Perhaps this post did not belong in this thread which is about a STATE law applicable to State, County and Local LE officers. Perhaps "the day job" would have been more appropriate.
I have no idea what normal procedure for the agents is and made an assumption that the necesssity to take the ID "somewhere" was related to the power outage. That may not be true. Not taking two IDs was probably an oops but I have no way of knowing that.
The line about coming over the fence was snarky and uncalled for.
Laughing about this story has everything to do with a coworker getting dragged out of bed and then being inconvenienced further and nothing to do with other feds doing their job. This is life working along the border.
No matter how it came across in the post, I sincirely meant "Good work, ICE!"

 

[Warrenlm]

Not sure where to post this hot story, although the topic may be old, but figured admirers like fireguy are following this thread. Besides, it's about "south of the border". Wonder if Oliver might consider returning his capital money to the movie goers, say 50c a ticket for the next ten years?

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i01kwRMeMjF3BBfsv1lSiLoWNXMgD9G08FL02
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Promoting his new documentary "South of the Border" in Caracas, Stone heaped praise on Chavez, saying he is leading a movement for "social transformation" in Latin American. The film features informal interviews by Stone with Chavez and six allied leftist presidents, from Bolivia's Evo Morales to Cuba's Raul Castro.
"I admire Hugo. I like him very much as a person. I can say one thing. ... He shouldn't be on television all the time," Stone said at a news conference."
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[Thunderhorse]

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[Handballer]

Did you see the article
U.S. arrests 2,200 in Mexican drug trafficking probe


The AG gave a briefing on this yesterday on one TV network yesterday but it has been lightly covered on paper/radio/TV.